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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23566508 - 08/22/16 04:23 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I was on the state policy for the uninsurable before obamacare.  It was better i paid less.


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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23567939 - 08/23/16 12:48 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Brian Jones said:
One good reason is coverage for preexisting conditions.





that was great for the people with preexisting conditions but the young, healthy
people that would have subsidized those folks opted to pay the small fines instead
and because of this the insurance companies started losing shitloads of cash,
without the revenue stream they should have had they would have been forced to go
out of business and several insurance companies have subsequently withdrawn from
obamacare, many other have cut off all but a few hundred counties


now those with preexisting conditions will not get any coverage when before
obamacare they only had to pay a larger premium for coverage



so that was a temporary win now "fixed" by our healthcare providers. i really don't see how you justify unobtainable by saying "higher premiums" 4k a month is not healthcare that is robbery, hence no one enrolling in them.

remind me again why healthcare has to make people money rather than actually care for people's well being?


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InvisiblePrisoner#1
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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
    #23568075 - 08/23/16 03:05 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

ReposadoXochipilli said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Brian Jones said:
One good reason is coverage for preexisting conditions.





that was great for the people with preexisting conditions but the young, healthy
people that would have subsidized those folks opted to pay the small fines instead
and because of this the insurance companies started losing shitloads of cash,
without the revenue stream they should have had they would have been forced to go
out of business and several insurance companies have subsequently withdrawn from
obamacare, many other have cut off all but a few hundred counties


now those with preexisting conditions will not get any coverage when before
obamacare they only had to pay a larger premium for coverage



so that was a temporary win now "fixed" by our healthcare providers. i really don't see how you justify unobtainable by saying "higher premiums" 4k a month is not healthcare that is robbery, hence no one enrolling in them.





so you decided you could go without insurance but then contracted cancer, seeing
as how you couldnt cover the tens of thousands in treatment you figured it would
be a great time to try and get insured. seems to me like you're trying to scam the
insurance companies into paying for your bad decisions


Quote:

remind me again why healthcare has to make people money rather than actually care for people's well being?





because it's not my responsibility to take care of you. you're welcome to try and
find a doctor that will fix you up in exchange for a couple of pigs and a goat


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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23568515 - 08/23/16 09:06 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Well my federal dollars shouldnt be going into propping up your poor ass state, either, pris.

But here we are. Living in a democratic society.


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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23568585 - 08/23/16 09:39 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Brian Jones said:
One good reason is coverage for preexisting conditions.





that was great for the people with preexisting conditions but the young, healthy
people that would have subsidized those folks opted to pay the small fines instead
and because of this the insurance companies started losing shitloads of cash,
without the revenue stream they should have had they would have been forced to go
out of business and several insurance companies have subsequently withdrawn from
obamacare, many other have cut off all but a few hundred counties


now those with preexisting conditions will not get any coverage when before
obamacare they only had to pay a larger premium for coverage



So make the penalties higher for opting out. These premiums for young people are very low and are calculated by actuaries who are much brighter than you or I in accordance with their likely hood of needing care. Obama and everyone involved made it no secret that this was a huge part of affordable care working.

Bottom line is...if someone who opted out of the coverage gets  some severe illness that may require months in the hospital...WE will wind up paying for anyway after all the litigation that was required when he snubbed the hospital bills. The Fed gov't will re-imburse the hospitals based on whatever waiver is required.

The emergency room scenario where anyone who gets sick and doesn't have insurance goes... was sucking up huge amounts of cash from taxpayers...A visit that would cost $50.00 at a normal care physician, instead costs into the thousands because emergency rooms were never designed for this. Low income people with insurance can now go to the drs. office as should be.

This was one of the biggest reasons for affordable care...My ex is an attorney that works for the fed gov't. She worked in the waiver area where states would ask for money to accommodate their losses. Millions upon millions of dollars were and still are wasted on this.

Affordable care is not perfect, but rarely is anything as all-encompassing as this. It still needs tweaking but will work people need to try to move forward with solutions rather than backwards with vitriol like has been the way the last several years.


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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #23568652 - 08/23/16 09:59 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Without knowing the facts, obamacare is good because of the name itself.

The letters themselves fit well together. The word is easy on the eyes because of all the vowels, it sounds friendly and it has the surname of a president in it so that has to count for something.

Something good or something bad, who knows, call the obamaphone and find out.


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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: LobsterSauce]
    #23568816 - 08/23/16 10:57 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

ReposadoXochipilli said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Brian Jones said:
One good reason is coverage for preexisting conditions.





that was great for the people with preexisting conditions but the young, healthy
people that would have subsidized those folks opted to pay the small fines instead
and because of this the insurance companies started losing shitloads of cash,
without the revenue stream they should have had they would have been forced to go
out of business and several insurance companies have subsequently withdrawn from
obamacare, many other have cut off all but a few hundred counties


now those with preexisting conditions will not get any coverage when before
obamacare they only had to pay a larger premium for coverage



so that was a temporary win now "fixed" by our healthcare providers. i really don't see how you justify unobtainable by saying "higher premiums" 4k a month is not healthcare that is robbery, hence no one enrolling in them.





so you decided you could go without insurance but then contracted cancer, seeing
as how you couldnt cover the tens of thousands in treatment you figured it would
be a great time to try and get insured. seems to me like you're trying to scam the
insurance companies into paying for your bad decisions


Quote:

remind me again why healthcare has to make people money rather than actually care for people's well being?





because it's not my responsibility to take care of you. you're welcome to try and
find a doctor that will fix you up in exchange for a couple of pigs and a goat



Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

ReposadoXochipilli said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Brian Jones said:
One good reason is coverage for preexisting conditions.





that was great for the people with preexisting conditions but the young, healthy
people that would have subsidized those folks opted to pay the small fines instead
and because of this the insurance companies started losing shitloads of cash,
without the revenue stream they should have had they would have been forced to go
out of business and several insurance companies have subsequently withdrawn from
obamacare, many other have cut off all but a few hundred counties


now those with preexisting conditions will not get any coverage when before
obamacare they only had to pay a larger premium for coverage



so that was a temporary win now "fixed" by our healthcare providers. i really don't see how you justify unobtainable by saying "higher premiums" 4k a month is not healthcare that is robbery, hence no one enrolling in them.





so you decided you could go without insurance but then contracted cancer, seeing
as how you couldnt cover the tens of thousands in treatment you figured it would
be a great time to try and get insured. seems to me like you're trying to scam the
insurance companies into paying for your bad decisions


Quote:

remind me again why healthcare has to make people money rather than actually care for people's well being?





because it's not my responsibility to take care of you. you're welcome to try and
find a doctor that will fix you up in exchange for a couple of pigs and a goat




Fucking iPad erased my response. Short version. There is a personal response ability towards society if you want to participate in it.

Health crisis are often sudden and unexpected. Scamming the insurance companies would be impressive, the bean counters are very thorough and they live by the exceptions fine print.

Having a little empathy would go a long way with this situation. Look at our healthcare situation for our veterans, and elderly, that shows you how great your system is doing and how much compassion is involved in the process.


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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23569411 - 08/23/16 02:57 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

The Ecstatic said:
Well my federal dollars shouldnt be going into propping up your poor ass state, either, pris.

But here we are. Living in a democratic society.




you dollars arent propping me up, even when I was out of work for 5 years none of
your money benefited me, I wasnt brown enough and I dint have tits, it didnt
matter that I had 2 children, I was the wrong gender or the wrong color


what kind of society did you say we live in again?


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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23569436 - 08/23/16 03:07 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

i think we identified your bias with this situation.


we live in a capitalist caste slave system.


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OfflineJustForToday
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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
    #23569524 - 08/23/16 03:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I thought this thread was new then I seen chowder has posted and he has been gone forever.


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