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InvisibleMoonFarmer
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papaver laciniatum genetic potency
    #23567551 - 08/22/16 09:58 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I am currently growing some poppies of the Papiver Laciniatum variety. I'm hoping they will mature before winter as they are a summer variety and I have gotten a late start on them. Anyhow, I have read that this sub species  is still active. The seed is from Burpee. So my question is since it is from Burpee wouldn't they have bred out a high alkaloid content in the genetics to near nothing?? Or should I just hope old genetics shine through  and yield a decent alkaloid content??

This is my first attempt at growing poppies. I have always grown herbs, veggies, fruits, and pollinator gardens.

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Re: papaver laciniatum genetic potency [Re: MoonFarmer]
    #23567773 - 08/22/16 11:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

If you are interested in the active alkaloids, why not just grow P. somn?

Edit: never heard that name before, nevermind that question.  Specifically which variety are you growing though?

Edited by jimmyBbuffet (08/22/16 11:16 PM)

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Re: papaver laciniatum genetic potency [Re: jimmyBbuffet]
    #23568474 - 08/23/16 08:45 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

The Laciniatum species is what they call the "pompom" variety.But it is an active sub species of Papiver Somniferum.I am currently growing Burpee's Black Swan Poppy.

I have gotten a late start on most of my overall gardening, so this is why the late start on the poppies and the variety choice. (As stated above: summer blooming variety and purchased convenient.)

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Re: papaver laciniatum genetic potency [Re: MoonFarmer]
    #23570328 - 08/23/16 07:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Any thoughts folks??


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Re: papaver laciniatum genetic potency [Re: MoonFarmer]
    #23570353 - 08/23/16 07:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I don't know anything about their potency, but I hope you post up some pix.  I googled that variety & they look rad.  Those "black" flowers are super cool.  M

But just grow them out & try the pods when ready.  It's not like you're gonna uproot them if someone tells you that they're weak, right?  And if they do end up being impotent, you know what not to grow next year.

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Re: papaver laciniatum genetic potency [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #23570404 - 08/23/16 07:56 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yes the flowers do look wicked and either way I will continue to grow them.  I just have been wondering about Burpee putting out an active plant variety  that's all. If they do turn out to be weak I still feel I will be winning. I will have Papaver Somniferum growing experience and they will be another nectar source for my pollinators.

When they flower I will definitely post some pics.


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Re: papaver laciniatum genetic potency [Re: MoonFarmer]
    #23570745 - 08/23/16 09:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Where are you located ??

They flower from long photo periods so most all locations would have flowered already

If thats the case they can be overwintered and will flower next year (If they survive the winter)

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