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I got Fruit fly maggots in my grain jar!
    #23568117 - 08/23/16 04:11 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Alright, so about a week ago I had some 4 day old rancid ass smelling like death WBS soaking.  I was gonna throw it out but then realized I had nothing else to do that evening except drink beer and pressure cook rancid bird seed. 

I really didn't have high hopes for the jars, but it was something I haven't done before so I said why not.  Anyways, I MS'ed some of them and G2G'ed some of them that was a week ago and I am just finally seeing some growth from the spores on the sides, and only a few of the G2G jars have recovered and started slowly spreading though it looks like it will take a while.....

But I looked at one of the jars today and see a few fruit fly larvas!!  I have had trich, bacteria, cobweb, red stuff, yellow stuff, stuff that looked like I needed to call a priest for.... but never larva in my jars.  I recently decided to try the white plastic lids as I have always used the metal, I know they don't seal airtight but I don't know how much space is in there.  One of the jars I remembered seeming kind of loose and I was like oh damn, but I screwed it on and figured it would be fine but I don't know if it was that jar or not.  I PC'ed them for 90min and that particular one I used MS so I never even opened the lid.  Other than those bastards I don't see any signs of contamination and finally after a week I am starting to see some growth so I just set it aside to see who wins the battle, fruit fly or mushroom! If it gets that far.

Anyone else find maggots in their jars? I am currently battling fruit flies for supremacy of my house, but never thought I'd find them in my jars.


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Re: I got Fruit fly maggots in my grain jar! [Re: funton]
    #23569572 - 08/23/16 04:00 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Thats very strange, do you have photos? what kind of filters and injection ports are you using on the jars? it had to of happened when you g2g transferred, were you using a flow hood, or a SAB?


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Re: I got Fruit fly maggots in my grain jar! [Re: Aos]
    #23569763 - 08/23/16 05:12 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I would love to see a pic of those flies. 

Interesting, I've never encountered it.  How did you p.c. and for how long?  what do your jars have for lids? 

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Re: I got Fruit fly maggots in my grain jar! [Re: Kenetic]
    #23569790 - 08/23/16 05:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

He PCd for 90 mins
But yeah I wanna see these warlocks.


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Re: I got Fruit fly maggots in my grain jar! [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23570371 - 08/23/16 07:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

i just posted about this.. like super cereal.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23563317


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Re: I got Fruit fly maggots in my grain jar! [Re: mushboy]
    #23570432 - 08/23/16 08:02 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I've had this before.

Clean your place out. Especially the garbage and refrigerator. Give it a couple weeks and start over. Fruit flys and gnats are a PITA, once you have them, they linger and proceed to fuck up your grows if you cant get rid of them. Luckily, most of the time, you can keep them down to a seasonal problem.

The last place I lived was tropical and they were perpetual. The solution I found was to change my Tek. I moved to an exclusive Invitro grow bag system. And when the fruit fly/gnat problem was high, I would use parafilm on my plastic lids for an extra layer of protection.

I tried freezing my spawn jars for those that were already infected. The success was very limited and ended up ruining the spawn in more cases than not. There were a few that pulled through though. All of the jars that were left to "See what happens" failed though.

My advice is to clean house, wait a couple weeks, and start over.


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Re: I got Fruit fly maggots in my grain jar! [Re: funton]
    #23588567 - 08/28/16 09:50 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Alright guys, I gotcha some pics.....







I'm no stranger to gnats and fruit flys, I've had them infest subs and just be annoying as hell.... I just never had them show up in a PC'ed (90 Min) spawn jar before.  As I said those jars took ages to start growing, that jar is about 2 weeks old and you can see how much growth is there.... but aside from the maggots there doesn't seem to be any other contaminations in the jar to show up yet, so I'm just gonna watch eagerly to see what happens between mushroom vs. gnat as the jar slowly colonizes.


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Re: I got Fruit fly maggots in my grain jar! [Re: funton]
    #23588640 - 08/28/16 10:22 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Happened to me once. Had to toss them because it became bacterial. Had those little shits in my SGFC for weeks. Can try to make a trap using a bottle and some apple cider vinegar. Works well.


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Re: I got Fruit fly maggots in my grain jar! [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #23588677 - 08/28/16 10:34 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I would count those jars a loss at this point. If anything good comes from them, Ill be very surprised.


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Re: I got Fruit fly maggots in my grain jar! [Re: wildernessjunkie]
    #23588701 - 08/28/16 10:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The problem is that your lids do not have a sealing gasket underneath. Those plastic lids will not create a tight seal. Don't believe me? Take a new one and fill a jar with water and turn it upside down. Don't fret though you can simply use a "tattler" ring https://www.amazon.com/Reusable-Replacement-Canning-Jar-Ring/dp/B004I8B4K0. A more ghetto way some people do it is use a big rubberband at the very tip top of the jar.


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Re: I got Fruit fly maggots in my grain jar! [Re: sandy_vag]
    #23588709 - 08/28/16 10:43 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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The problem is that your lids do not have a sealing gasket underneath. Those plastic lids will not create a tight seal. Don't believe me? Take a new one and fill a jar with water and turn it upside down. Don't fret though you can simply use a "tattler" ring https://www.amazon.com/Reusable-Replacement-Canning-Jar-Ring/dp/B004I8B4K0. A more ghetto way some people do it is use a big rubberband at the very tip top of the jar.




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Re: I got Fruit fly maggots in my grain jar! [Re: Psychedel.EXE]
    #23588721 - 08/28/16 10:47 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Quote:

sandy_vag said:
The problem is that your lids do not have a sealing gasket underneath. Those plastic lids will not create a tight seal. Don't believe me? Take a new one and fill a jar with water and turn it upside down. Don't fret though you can simply use a "tattler" ring https://www.amazon.com/Reusable-Replacement-Canning-Jar-Ring/dp/B004I8B4K0. A more ghetto way some people do it is use a big rubberband at the very tip top of the jar.




No. Thats not why.




Agreed. I use lids similar to this exclusively, and that has not caused this problem.


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Re: I got Fruit fly maggots in my grain jar! [Re: wildernessjunkie]
    #23588724 - 08/28/16 10:47 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

It is exactly why. I've had it happen before with those lids until I used a gasket.


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Re: I got Fruit fly maggots in my grain jar! [Re: sandy_vag]
    #23588784 - 08/28/16 11:23 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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It is exactly why. I've had it happen before with those lids until I used a gasket.




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Re: I got Fruit fly maggots in my grain jar! [Re: morty422]
    #23588792 - 08/28/16 11:29 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

:whathesaid:




(i had issues with the quote button lol)


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Re: I got Fruit fly maggots in my grain jar! [Re: Psychedel.EXE]
    #23588818 - 08/28/16 11:42 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Yea you guys are right they just magically appeared inside the jars.


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Re: I got Fruit fly maggots in my grain jar! [Re: sandy_vag]
    #23588827 - 08/28/16 11:47 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Yea you guys are right they just magically appeared inside the jars.




Oh no. You are the right one. I just didnt know what I was talking about back there. Yes. It is totally possible for those plastic lids to keep out microbes, but at the same time allow entry for insects/larvae/eggs. What was I even thinking?


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Re: I got Fruit fly maggots in my grain jar! [Re: Psychedel.EXE]
    #23588837 - 08/28/16 11:51 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

So magic then? They say not for processing on the box for a reason. They do not seal. With a seal they are fine. Like I said, take one of these lids and turn it upside down with water in a jar and see for yourself.


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Re: I got Fruit fly maggots in my grain jar! [Re: sandy_vag]
    #23588869 - 08/29/16 12:09 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Here I did it for you ...fuck its too big and im not fucking with resizing it for you, but the imgur link is a few posts down.


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Re: I got Fruit fly maggots in my grain jar! [Re: sandy_vag]
    #23588870 - 08/29/16 12:10 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

So OP says...
"Alright, so about a week ago I had some 4 day old rancid ass smelling like death WBS soaking.  I was gonna throw it out but then realized I had nothing else to do that evening except drink beer and pressure cook rancid bird seed.
...But I looked at one of the jars today and see a few fruit fly larvas!!"

And your helpful response is that it came through between the threads, between the weak seal of the plastic lid and the glass, and  burrowed down deep into his jars?
You didn't act like it was just possible, but more like its the hands down answer, fuck pondering any further. Did you even read the OP?

EDIT: Lets not argue any farther, at least not in someones thread. If you want to continue arguing then PM me I guess.


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