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" b a d "
    #23567455 - 08/22/16 09:27 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Are there psychological repercussions for constantly using the word "bad" to describe undesirable aspects of life?

I had a bad day.

I have a bad cold.

The traffic was bad.

They had a bad marriage.

The service at the restaurant was bad.

My son got bad grades in school.

He has a problem with bad behavior.

The leftovers have gone bad.

I quit because I had a bad boss.

The weather was very bad.

I have many bad habits.


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Re: " b a d " [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23567532 - 08/22/16 09:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Trump is very bad.


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Re: " b a d " [Re: DividedQuantum] * 1
    #23567549 - 08/22/16 09:58 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Adolf Hitler was very very bad.


Therefore Hitler trumps Donald.


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Re: " b a d " [Re: RJ Tubs 202] * 1
    #23567761 - 08/22/16 11:00 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I would say that if you use the word 'bad' a lot then its more likely a consequence of an already depressed mind (or an unlucky life). I wouldn't worry about what the word is doing to you.


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Re: " b a d " [Re: RJ Tubs 202] * 1
    #23567884 - 08/23/16 12:14 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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RJ Tubs 202 said:
Are there psychological repercussions for constantly using the word "bad" to describe undesirable aspects of life?






There are.

And they're not good.


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Re: " b a d " [Re: DisoRDeR] * 2
    #23568487 - 08/23/16 08:54 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

words are magic. they cause changes in vibration. words + voice = magic spell. a vow of silence will raise awareness of this energy.


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Re: " b a d " [Re: nothing exists]
    #23569634 - 08/23/16 04:26 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

God is in the word.


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Re: " b a d " [Re: RJ Tubs 202] * 1
    #23570270 - 08/23/16 07:23 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

RJ Tubs 202 said:
Are there psychological repercussions for constantly using the word "bad" to describe undesirable aspects of life?

I had a bad day.

I have a bad cold.

The traffic was bad.

They had a bad marriage.

The service at the restaurant was bad.

My son got bad grades in school.

He has a problem with bad behavior.

The leftovers have gone bad.

I quit because I had a bad boss.

The weather was very bad.

I have many bad habits.





before you even get to the adjectives some would say there is a problem.
if you haven't heard of e-prime you might find it a little interesting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Prime

'E-Prime (short for English-Prime, sometimes denoted É or E′) operates as a version of the English language that excludes all forms of the verb to be. E-Prime does not allow the conjugations of to be—be, am, is, are, was, were, been, being—the archaic forms of to be (e.g. art, wast, wert), or the contractions of to be—'m, 's, 're (e.g. I'm, he's, she's, they're).

Some scholars advocate using E-Prime as a device to clarify thinking and strengthen writing.[1] For example, the sentence "the film was good" could not be expressed under the rules of E-Prime, and the speaker might instead say "I liked the film" or "the film made me laugh". The E-Prime versions communicate the writer's experience rather than judgment, making it harder for the writer or reader to confuse opinion with fact.

Kellogg and Bourland use the term "Deity mode of speech" to refer to misuse of the verb to be, which "allows even the most ignorant to transform their opinions magically into god-like pronouncements on the nature of things".[2]'

http://www.bing.com/search?q=e-prime&qs=n&form=QBRE&pq=e-prime&sc=8-7&sp=-1&sk=&cvid=431A48C2CD124216A0DBA5F807725F4C


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Re: " b a d " [Re: laughingdog]
    #23570453 - 08/23/16 08:11 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, E-prime seems like a lot of fun, but it can get difficult to compose things without that infamous verb.  RAW wrote an entire book in E-prime once (Quantum Psychology).  This post has been written in E-prime.  You've really got to think about it at times.  It seems to go almost like a vow of silence must go, only on a much less difficult level.  Getting the "is of identity" out of one's language equates to quite a task; it has become utterly ingrained in English-speaking minds.  We make stark declarations all the time that pass through our awareness without notice.  Writing in E-prime really sharpens brain muscles and appears very constructive.

This reminds me of the quote of Count Alfred Korzybski:  "Whatever you say a thing is, it isn't."


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Re: " b a d " [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #23570806 - 08/23/16 09:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

This post is not in E-Prime. :highdog:


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Re: " b a d " [Re: laughingdog]
    #23570931 - 08/23/16 10:06 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

laughingdog said:
Kellogg and Bourland use the term "Deity mode of speech" to refer to misuse of the verb to be, which "allows even the most ignorant to transform their opinions magically into god-like pronouncements on the nature of things."




Fascinating!    No, I have not heard of E-Prime.

So, in the past I sometimes corrected my skewed semantics and changed,

"The traffic was bad" to, "The traffic was inconvenient."

But an E-prime version might be, "I felt irritated while I waited in traffic".

Is there a software upgrade for my mind?


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Re: " b a d " [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23571052 - 08/23/16 10:34 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

RJ Tubs 202 said:

Is there a software upgrade for my mind?




tell me if you find one


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Re: " b a d " [Re: laughingdog]
    #23572256 - 08/24/16 09:11 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Properly applied willpower over a duration.


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Re: " b a d " [Re: DisoRDeR]
    #23578504 - 08/26/16 03:45 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

"And they're not good."

Nice way of dodging a certain word.


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Re: " b a d " [Re: supremeshiva]
    #23583583 - 08/27/16 01:43 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

NLP 101 is knowing that negative words bring negative emotion, consciously or subconsciously, but 'bad' is far from being regarded as the least, most beautiful and delightful words that can be spoken.

You can a monitor the mental health of a person by their speech in the same way you can observe it by looking at the state of their kitchen.

If you haven't already watched, look out for Tony Robbins 'I am your Guru' on Netflix.  This person as a supposed psychological motivator (who has written good books granted) yet he's become the most mentally unstable person I've seen in the field of the subject.  The language and body used suggests possession and serves as the ultimate hypocrisy.  Far from beautiful, yet wishing him a sleek and swift recovery.

Treat your speech like song. Major chords are key.  Minors will only drive and perpetuate depression.  Keep things stunning charming and enchanting and you'll be the envy of those in the trenches of the doldrums who, by your efforts, you'll uplift by default.

When in doubt, change your lingo, because it's shaping you like a mad potter. :thumbup:


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Re: " b a d " [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #23584079 - 08/27/16 04:03 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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NLP 101 is knowing that negative words bring negative emotion, consciously or subconsciously, but 'bad' is far from being regarded as the least, most beautiful and delightful words that can be spoken.

You can a monitor the mental health of a person by their speech in the same way you can observe it by looking at the state of their kitchen.

If you haven't already watched, look out for Tony Robbins 'I am your Guru' on Netflix.  This person as a supposed psychological motivator (who has written good books granted) yet he's become the most mentally unstable person I've seen in the field of the subject.  The language and body used suggests possession and serves as the ultimate hypocrisy.  Far from beautiful, yet wishing him a sleek and swift recovery.

Treat your speech like song. Major chords are key.  Minors will only drive and perpetuate depression.  Keep things stunning charming and enchanting and you'll be the envy of those in the trenches of the doldrums who, by your efforts, you'll uplift by default.

When in doubt, change your lingo, because it's shaping you like a mad potter. :thumbup:





You can play all the subjective games you want in your head, it's not going to change the objective reality which is composed of both good/bad.

You can deny bad exists and play linguistic games. You can fool a fool who is looking for a pick-me-up positive. You can't fool reality.

You cannot definitively monitor anyone as your 'monitoring' is conducted through your own personal and flawed subjective precepts of the world. A woman's capability to thwart your monitoring of her internal state is one of the best examples of this. Wake me up when there's a definitive book written on how to accurately 'monitor'(read) women.

'Bad' is one of the components of this manner of creation we exist in and its partially what keeps this show going. People who deny this will always fail to grasp a deeper understanding of reality. In some cases, maybe that's a good thing.

However, please don't proclaim this personal survival skill as objective reality. Please don't trivialize reality in this manner.

You can hack your awareness of reality and tune it towards flowery positive thoughts with NLP and other tricks and hope your wall is always strong enough to counter reality
or
You can embrace and try to understand objective reality which is composed of good/bad and be grounded in the natural order and intermingling of the two.

NLP positive pete is usually the person who has the mental breakdown when objective reality breaks through the unrealistic firewall they fashioned for themselves which is one of the reasons why its very dangerous for such individuals to experiment with the opening of certain 'passageways' in their brain. Suddenly that 'reality' they have been avoiding comes rushing in all at once w/ them having no constructs to navigate it.

Speaking of songs and majors ....


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    #23584091 - 08/27/16 04:06 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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yeah said:
Properly applied willpower over a duration.



:smile2:


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Re: " b a d " [Re: iiilil]
    #23584138 - 08/27/16 04:14 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I think it perpetuates the concept that some things are inherently good while others are inherently bad, rather than that thing is neutral and your perception of it is instead what shades your experience of that thing as good or bad.



Over use of it I would think would tend to Jade the user to the core idea of good and bad. Like the weather, it is never either, it just is, but seeing a rainy day as a day of bad weather would lend a certain negativity to the entire day, being overshadowed by being inherently "bad". When it is simply unfavorable. But through over use bad doesn't mean that bad and that negativity being bad is more acceptable. Jaded.


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Re: " b a d " [Re: nuentoter]
    #23584235 - 08/27/16 04:32 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I think it perpetuates the concept that some things are inherently good while others are inherently bad, rather than that thing is neutral and your perception of it is instead what shades your experience of that thing as good or bad.

Over use of it I would think would tend to Jade the user to the core idea of good and bad. Like the weather, it is never either, it just is, but seeing a rainy day as a day of bad weather would lend a certain negativity to the entire day, being overshadowed by being inherently "bad". When it is simply unfavorable. But through over use bad doesn't mean that bad and that negativity being bad is more acceptable. Jaded.




I mean, to this point sure and if Duncan was communicating this than sure... However, that is because good/bad are absolute terms. One should avoid speaking in terms of absolutes. That is the core reason why neither good/bad should be used frequently.

Rarely do we have lines to perceive such absolution thus why one should avoid speaking in terms of them.

That being said, one can still comment about them when 'digging deeper'...

If someone is a liar.. they're a liar
If someone kills someone for no reason .. that's fucked up and wrong.
If someone is selfish.. they're selfish.

Digging deeper, you see the above obviously doesn't spring from 'good'. They spring and come forth from bad. See how that works?

There is a deeper metaphysical fork to this as well. There's a reason why binary was a breakthrough in conceptualizing the world
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    #23586418 - 08/28/16 10:22 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

True 'good' is the very essence of your being. It isn't based upon opinion because it's something you have no control over. It is an inheritance of the Godhead which is an unmalleable dictation.  Until it's found, one will never know, but when discover it, there is absolutely no questioning its purity and 'bads' stand prominent.  The earthly 'bads' are so called because they are falsehood to the core truth. This is the key point. They are a stark contrast against, a true absolute (light / truth / good).  The more connected one is with the truth, the more readily they can identify the bad (the 'sin') and dispel or identify it as that, as ready as a stomach regurgitating rotten food.

To become hung up on the notion, that only the extremes (such as murder) are the 'bads' is a mistake.  Our daily, seemingly innocent traits can too be unknowingly destructive and our condition of personality can be too.  Literally anything that blocks the channel of light (good) is a sin (a bad - 'wrong mindedness' by definition.  Too much lust, as an example (worship of material) blocks the light slipstream.

Despite the philosophy that some people have that we live in total chaos and everything is subjective, it actually isn't. The anchor of truth is buried inside of us which, to use another metaphor, serves a moral compass.  Whether people acknowledge it or not, it is there and it's guiding the higher self.  Once discovered, it renders the person 'found', having previously been lost.

Positive thinking (and reflective action) on this plane can transform a condiction of living entirely. It is the first link in the productive chain from mind to manifest, it is the door to the Great Library and the Key to the Kingdom.

As stated, keep the majors sounding.  It's through this practice in which the aforementioned good light is found, after which time it becomes second nature as a behaviour of expressing the good truth. Even utterance of this truth, rewards onself tenfold.




Edited by Duncan Rowhl (08/28/16 11:09 AM)


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