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Maximillion
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Ps. Cyan
#23566776 - 08/22/16 05:51 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I received a ps. Cyan print as a gift from a friend and I've got a few questions.
Question A: Since these are only grown outdoors is there any reason why I shouldn't go straight to grain then spawn to outdoors, or should i clean it up on agar first? (Of course I'm putting it on agar so that I've got a plate or 10 as back-up)
If you have a tek to direct me to do not even read question B just send me the link please.
Question B: I plan on colonizing grain and spawning it into patches outside. What is the standard substrate to use? (Mulch? Straw?)
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3 part hardwood chips 1 part earth. If you us grain spawn, bury it deep so the critters don't steal it. Although that helps with distribution. In the PNW. I move to outdoor beds after last threat of frost/freze.
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Maximillion
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Thank you so much. Is any soil suitable for this?
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NothingsChanged said: 3 part hardwood chips 1 part earth. If you us grain spawn, bury it deep so the critters don't steal it. Although that helps with distribution. In the PNW. I move to outdoor beds after last threat of frost/freze.
It's not a threat of frost n freeze...just something we take advantage of....it's my can survive freezing no problem we just colonize during the winter so we are prepped for spring
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Re: Ps. Cyan [Re: cronicr]
#23567337 - 08/22/16 08:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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NothingsChanged said: 3 part hardwood chips 1 part earth. If you us grain spawn, bury it deep so the critters don't steal it. Although that helps with distribution. In the PNW. I move to outdoor beds after last threat of frost/freze.
It's not a threat of frost n freeze...just something we take advantage of....it's my can survive freezing no problem we just colonize during the winter so we are prepped for spring
You seem like you've done this a few times. Do you have a specific tek you follow for cultivation on ps. Cyan? If not, could I use any kind of mulch?
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Hardwood chips are best I use alder because it's free for me.
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Re: Ps. Cyan [Re: cronicr]
#23567358 - 08/22/16 08:47 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Would ceder work in that case? I think I already have some from when I did my flower bed last year. Should my sub be 100% wood chips or am I supposed to add some other stuff and dress it up?
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dont' bother with cedar or pine..pine needs to be aged cedar is anti fungal. soft wooods like douglas fir work pretty good though
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Re: Ps. Cyan [Re: cronicr]
#23567503 - 08/22/16 09:45 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yes don't use any cedar or pine. You can use douglas fir once it has fermented for a few months. I have heard it's best to use several different hardwoods in each bed if possible. My last cyan patched I made used aged douglas fir, sugar maple, alder, oak, and blackberry stems. They seem really happy 

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Lol now I'm kicking myself in the ass for not buying the giant bags of "mushroom compost" they were selling at the grocery store a couple months ago. They sure would come in handy right now. Looks like I have a lot of work to do if I want to get these guys going.
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Mushroom compost is just composted spent substrates
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Re: Ps. Cyan [Re: cronicr]
#23567824 - 08/22/16 11:28 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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cronicr said: Mushroom compost is just composted spent substrates
I got tons of that shit I could sell ya
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Maximillion
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Well damn that's gross. I feel awfully dumb right now. Haha.
I'm way out of my league right now. Lol. I'm going to browse everyones signatures for an answer.
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Why not grow a pacth outdoors and grow a small pacth inside to help spread it when spring comes.
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Re: Ps. Cyan [Re: tump]
#23567985 - 08/23/16 01:21 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't know how to make a patch. I mean I got the grain part down I just don't know what to do from there. Do I just throw some wood in a hole with the grain or is there a neat and less cavemanlike way to do it?
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liloldme
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grain is the hardest part, no need to prep the wood chips really other than them being wet and the substrate thick enough. Check out my Cyan thread to see what I did. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23008066/page/2/fpart/all/vc/1
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liloldme said: grain is the hardest part, no need to prep the wood chips really other than them being wet and the substrate thick enough. Check out my Cyan thread to see what I did. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23008066/page/2/fpart/all/vc/1
Excellent work. I've seen your thread before. How do you hydrate the wood chips before you mix it with the spawn?
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NothingsChanged
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Garden Hoes. That shit was funny.
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Haha. Thanks you two. So do I soak them or just get them wet?
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just depends on what you can do and the volume you're working with.. soaked is best
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Maximillion
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Alright cool, I'm going to soak them. I wasn't planning on doing anything big like what you got going on. Just a few holes in the ground with wood chips and grains. Thats what I'm hoping works anyway.
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Soak so they absorb the water.
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Edited by NothingsChanged (08/24/16 01:09 PM)
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Or not. Don't overthink things.
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Maximillion
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Lol I think I got it. I just have to find the right wood.
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I just bought a bunch of peat, worm castings, soil, bags of alder chips, wide mouth quart jars and a new planter. It was all on clearance. For six months of the year it's harder than shit to get smoking chips without additives. Chip drop stops I think November if you're PNW.
I'm working with some 75/25 millet and chips for spawning park patches and planters.
I'm soaking chips after a 90 minute boil and letting that water content get in there good. Chips hold more than what they appear to be. I'm boiling my chips (preference) and letting sit overnight before loading into grain.
Don't forget to save your alder chip water. It makes for great LC.
Edited to add that sometimes jars take forever to make that jump from grain to wood. Make sure they're absolutely coated unless you're spawning outside in which case just use whatever you can muster up before it's too late for planting. Contaminated jars just chuck them outside. I run my grain-wood jars 2 hours at 15 psi.
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LH: Plus you can use that extra water you boiled and make a kind of wood sauce or at least water the planter with it.  
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Will do! Thankyas sir.
Very nice thread OP. It is refreshing to see people work with other species!
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NothingsChanged said: LH: Plus you can use that extra water you boiled and make a kind of wood sauce or at least water the planter with it.   
Man I love those wood carving you have in the background. I would love to make one of those someday. My grandmother painted a picture of cubes on to a wooden cutting board that was shaped like a mushroom, and she gave it to me :o It's kind of what inspired me. haha
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Maximillion said: Well damn that's gross. I feel awfully dumb right now. Haha.
I missed this post. Don't worry about any foibles or mistakes you make. This is a learning environment and people generally use it as such. There's definitely nothing wrong with not knowing something. It's what we are all here for. I know those feelings though.
And heads up too. There's an awful lot of woodlover psilocybe discussion in MH&I, particularly the actives threads. I bet if you pulled up PNW 2015, search the thread for cardboard+chips+cultivation, you're bound to find something. Or the NZ subaeruginosa threads. Karode13 cleaned the thread up as it went completely off topic but Fractaliopsybe does some good work, despite sort of being all over the place all the time. But, if you can get past that, he's done very well this season for picking, spawning and semi tekking his progress.
Just whatever you do try not to focus on the main page info. It's so outdated that it is sad.
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Maximillion said: Well damn that's gross. I feel awfully dumb right now. Haha.
I missed this post. Don't worry about any foibles or mistakes you make. This is a learning environment and people generally use it as such. There's definitely nothing wrong with not knowing something. It's what we are all here for. I know those feelings though.
And heads up too. There's an awful lot of woodlover psilocybe discussion in MH&I, particularly the actives threads. I bet if you pulled up PNW 2015, search the thread for cardboard+chips+cultivation, you're bound to find something. Or the NZ subaeruginosa threads. Karode13 cleaned the thread up as it went completely off topic but Fractaliopsybe does some good work, despite sort of being all over the place all the time. But, if you can get past that, he's done very well this season for picking, spawning and semi tekking his progress.
Just whatever you do try not to focus on the main page info. It's so outdated that it is sad.
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Well thank you so much for that much need piece of information I'm headed that way now.
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I have butchered a temps of chainsaw carvings all over my yard. I am no artist but it's fun. All my customers have one in there gardens. some actauly turn out some what ok. Theirs a few of my attempts in my gallery if you want to check em out. My skills are laughable.
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NothingsChanged said: I have butchered a temps of chainsaw carvings all over my yard. I am no artist but it's fun. All my customers have one in there gardens. some actauly turn out some what ok. Theirs a few of my attempts in my gallery if you want to check em out. My skills are laughable.
I just checked out your gallery, Man those are beautiful. I absolutely love the "sweet sweet cyanescens" painting. You are an extremely talented artist. I also like how you have an entire wall with art on it. You're amazing. Haha
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Thanks. The wall were all gifts from random people in my life. Sweet,sweet cyan is one of my favorites as well. Did yo notice it was spelled wrong? Classic. Random dust collectors and my latest failed attempt from the tree that fell on my house. (New roof only 3 weeks old).
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liloldme
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I really dig the cyan pic with the blue LEDs
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liloldme said: I really dig the cyan pic with the blue LEDs
My girl made that out of an old clock. Xmas present. It's a type of rubberized paint that looks like stained glass. works good on windows for privacy. you paint your design on a peace of glass or laminate. once it dries you can roll it up and unroll it on the window.
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