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failed changa (Enhanced Leaf) experience, help
    #23566164 - 08/22/16 02:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

this was my first experience with DMT/changa
first try - scaled 80mg (50% DMT 50% calea) loaded into a small bong (4inch) took the first hit, 10 seconds in, tried to light the whole bowl as i inhaled changa went down the pipe into the bong.WASTED!

second try - scaled 80-90mg, trying with a big bong, put some tobacco in the bowl first then poured the changa on it, took first hit kept in for 5-10 seconds, burned the whole thing then took the second hit as i layed down I COUGHEDD the whole smoke out (i fuckin hate my lungs for that) closed my eyes felt some mild CEV'S i was thinking this is like alex grey's painting and that's it :/

after waiting for months to try DMT after buying a new bong for DMT this is what i get :/

will gravity bong work with changa? with grvaity bong i assume i will just have to take ONE massive hit and be done and lay down

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Re: failed changa (Enhanced Leaf) experience, help [Re: engimatic]
    #23566188 - 08/22/16 02:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

get a glass screen for the bowl so it doesn't pull through. Or keep sandwiching with tobacco or cannabis. Maybe take 3 average hits instead of 2 large ones if you can't hold the smoke in. Holding it in at least 10 seconds is probably the biggest factor.

I've never used a gravity bong for changa but as long as you can vaporize it thoroughly and hold that massive hit for 20+ seconds I don't see why it wouldn't work.

If you really want to get there, load twice as much as you think you need and just keep hitting it until you can't.

Good luck :thumbup:

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Re: failed changa (Enhanced Leaf) experience, help [Re: Icon]
    #23566208 - 08/22/16 02:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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get a glass screen for the bowl so it doesn't pull through. Or keep sandwiching with tobacco or cannabis. Maybe take 3 average hits instead of 2 large ones if you can't hold the smoke in. Holding it in at least 10 seconds is probably the biggest factor.

I've never used a gravity bong for changa but as long as you can vaporize it thoroughly and hold that massive hit for 20+ seconds I don't see why it wouldn't work.

If you really want to get there, load twice as much as you think you need and just keep hitting it until you can't.

Good luck :thumbup:




problem with 3 back to back hits is that after the first hit you start to feel dizzy lighting the bong inhaling slowly taking the hit is alot of work after the first hit.

with gravity bong the stuff will be completely burnt, there's no problem in that with changa right? as with freebase DMT you don't have to burn it

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Re: failed changa (Enhanced Leaf) experience, help [Re: engimatic]
    #23566333 - 08/22/16 03:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Do not use a bong. Get a regular Cannabis pipe, load some enhanced leaf up and don't burn it, vaporize it by using the heat from the flame, but don't touch the flame to the plant material. Also, you can add some Harmalas to the mix for Changa and things will definitely work better ime. With DMT-enhanced leaf though and no Harmalas, you wanna smoke/vaporize as much of it as you can within a minute, whereas with Harmalas you can smoke/vape it at your own pace and work your way up and keep the experience going.

You don't want to burn the DMT, so you don't want to burn the plant material. You want to vaporize the DMT by using the heat from the flame and not the flame itself.

The reason it didn't work for you is probably because you burned it because you were using a bong. A Cannabis pipe is much better.


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Re: failed changa (Enhanced Leaf) experience, help [Re: Sabnock]
    #23567511 - 08/22/16 09:47 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I vote for just a regular pipe too. If you had crystals and were sandwhiching between plant material then Id say go for the bong.


You dont have to rip Changa/leaf, just pretend youre smoking pot


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Re: failed changa (Enhanced Leaf) experience, help [Re: engimatic]
    #24133950 - 03/03/17 03:18 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Of course you cough it up why did you put tobbaco under the changa? Yuck!


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