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non-native people are allowed to participate in religious ceremonies in Utah
    #23565113 - 08/22/16 06:07 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: non-native people are allowed to participate in religious ceremonies in Utah [Re: Ogla]
    #23565128 - 08/22/16 06:26 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

As far as I know, non 'natives' can participate in a number of states.


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Re: non-native people are allowed to participate in religious ceremonies in Utah [Re: El Torcho]
    #23565133 - 08/22/16 06:32 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Wasn't aware. Interested thou


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Re: non-native people are allowed to participate in religious ceremonies in Utah [Re: Ogla]
    #23565154 - 08/22/16 06:52 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Non-natives can use it in 5 states I thought, through the Peyote Way Church.

Copy paste this from the PWC's website.

"Non-Indian Peyote use is protected in five states : AZ, NM, CO, NV, and OR."


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Re: non-native people are allowed to participate in religious ceremonies in Utah [Re: Lucis]
    #23565173 - 08/22/16 07:03 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Who wants to go to UT anyways?

It's pretty country, but those Mormons. . .


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Re: non-native people are allowed to participate in religious ceremonies in Utah [Re: El Torcho]
    #23565183 - 08/22/16 07:09 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

How much Native American do you have to have in you to participate in the NAC's ceremonies?


I got 1/4th supposedly, sure look like I do too.


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Re: non-native people are allowed to participate in religious ceremonies in Utah [Re: El Torcho]
    #23565193 - 08/22/16 07:20 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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El Torcho said:
Who wants to go to UT anyways?

It's pretty country, but those Mormons. . .




:lol: seriously though...fucking gorgeous there but those people make it all around not a worthwhile place to travel.
CO on the other hand :thumbup:

to get into the NAC you just pay them money, they accept non-native members
something like 400usd


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Re: non-native people are allowed to participate in religious ceremonies in Utah [Re: Ogla]
    #23565195 - 08/22/16 07:21 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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losfreddy said:
how bout that, lol  :peyotespectrum:

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-37101268




I just watched the BBC documentary that this links to - Getting High for God.  Available on BBC i-player - but to download you have to be in the UK -or access a UK ISP address with a vpn.

A rather immature BBC reporter joins a native American church in Utah.  He gets a membership card, but first had to prove his sincerity by paying $200, LOL.

After a tedious 20 minutes he finally gets to a peyote ceremony where in the company of about 6 people he drinks a little peyote tea!!  He didn´t appear to feel any effect at all - neither did anyone else there, apparently.  Nobody even threw up. I think he was ripped off. 
One to miss.
Nice scenery though.


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Re: non-native people are allowed to participate in religious ceremonies in Utah [Re: El Torcho]
    #23565196 - 08/22/16 07:24 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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El Torcho said:
Who wants to go to UT anyways?

It's pretty country, but those Mormons. . .





UT would be better than where I am at now, I don't mind Mormons.  They have some wonderful hiking out there, and it's close to other cool outdoor states.

I don't mind anyone with a religious background, never really been bothered by anyone from a religion.:shrug:


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Re: non-native people are allowed to participate in religious ceremonies in Utah [Re: Lucis]
    #23565314 - 08/22/16 08:35 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Non natives can participate in religious ceremonies in Arizona.

Check out peyote way church of god.


Edited by Barracho (08/22/16 08:36 AM)


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Re: non-native people are allowed to participate in religious ceremonies in Utah [Re: Spanishfly]
    #23566288 - 08/22/16 03:13 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Spanishfly said:
Quote:

losfreddy said:
how bout that, lol  :peyotespectrum:

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-37101268




I just watched the BBC documentary that this links to - Getting High for God.  Available on BBC i-player - but to download you have to be in the UK -or access a UK ISP address with a vpn.

A rather immature BBC reporter joins a native American church in Utah.  He gets a membership card, but first had to prove his sincerity by paying $200, LOL.

After a tedious 20 minutes he finally gets to a peyote ceremony where in the company of about 6 people he drinks a little peyote tea!!  He didn´t appear to feel any effect at all - neither did anyone else there, apparently.  Nobody even threw up. I think he was ripped off. 
One to miss.
Nice scenery though.





that blows. Im only in it for the real experience. Cant seem to watch the video in the link cause it says its only available in UK


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Re: non-native people are allowed to participate in religious ceremonies in Utah [Re: Ogla]
    #23567479 - 08/22/16 09:34 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Many Native American Church charters allow non-natives into their fireplace. I'm one of them.


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Re: non-native people are allowed to participate in religious ceremonies in Utah [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #23567495 - 08/22/16 09:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I've attended multiple native american ceremonies here in CO.  Ayahuasca, Peyote and even ceremonies that dont include medicine like a Yuwipi ceremony.

Non natives are still welcome to participate in sweat lodges, Vision Quests etc. as well


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Re: non-native people are allowed to participate in religious ceremonies in Utah [Re: Big Worm]
    #23567505 - 08/22/16 09:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Acaterpillar is an OG.


He's got the native american G Pass


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