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Re: Trump campaign signals possible shift on immigration stance [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23566675 - 08/22/16 05:14 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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the wall is about the only thing that anyone has proposed that makes any sort of sense, and it still will not be made effective. the wall will still come out of taxpayer's dime, too. LOL
and that's it. that's the only thing that makes sense in this election.
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Re: Trump campaign signals possible shift on immigration stance [Re: akira_akuma]
#23566688 - 08/22/16 05:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: the wall is about the only thing that anyone has proposed that makes any sort of sense, and it still will not be made effective. the wall will still come out of taxpayer's dime, too. LOL
and that's it. that's the only thing that makes sense in this election.
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Re: Trump campaign signals possible shift on immigration stance [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23566690 - 08/22/16 05:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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i just can't keep up with you meme generation types.
where's the meme where Hilary strokes out, falls and becomes rigid over the primer switch when Russia fires it's missiles?
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Re: Trump campaign signals possible shift on immigration stance [Re: akira_akuma]
#23566699 - 08/22/16 05:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: i just can't keep up with you meme generation types.
where's the meme where Hilary strokes out, falls and becomes rigid over the primer switch when Russia fires it's missiles?
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Re: Trump campaign signals possible shift on immigration stance [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23566709 - 08/22/16 05:29 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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what race am i touting as inferior?
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Re: Trump campaign signals possible shift on immigration stance [Re: The Ecstatic]
#23566718 - 08/22/16 05:31 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Webster10 said: Why would they move from a highly taxed state like California to another highly taxed state across the country with a different climate? The more logical thing to do would be to move CLOSE, to Texas, where they have a similar climate and lower taxes. Canaduuuhhhhhhhh
Delaware is known as being tax friendly.
How does the Canadian know that and not you?
Delaware has better beaches
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Re: Trump campaign signals possible shift on immigration stance [Re: akira_akuma]
#23566750 - 08/22/16 05:42 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: the wall is about the only thing that anyone has proposed that makes any sort of sense, and it still will not be made effective. the wall will still come out of taxpayer's dime, too. LOL
and that's it. that's the only thing that makes sense in this election.
A border wall offers an excellent return on investment for US taxpayers and US workers, I'm glad you finally have come to your senses.
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Re: Trump campaign signals possible shift on immigration stance [Re: qman]
#23566760 - 08/22/16 05:47 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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i have never been against the wall, per se, (if you paid attention, i was never against the wall, just what was preceding after the wall, deportation) seeing as though it's the only thing that isn't bereft of sense, that's on the table right now...but deporting people...that, however, is pretty manipulative. still not on board with that. banning immigration from certain countries, Afghanistan, Syria, ect, is fine, but deporting people is unconstitutional and sneaky, all at once.
and the thing is about the wall, is that if it's ineffective it'll have cost a lot of money for no return of investment. a wall has never proven efficacious for the US, so we'll have to see. but Mexico paying for it? in one lump sum, no; though it'd help. but no, they'll "pay for it" as much as the US taxpayer "pays for it" themselves; just to be clear.
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Re: Trump campaign signals possible shift on immigration stance [Re: Webster10]
#23566762 - 08/22/16 05:47 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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koods said: http://video.foxnews.com/v/5092060082001/polls-show-trump-only-slightly-ahead-of-clinton-in-texas/?#sp=show-clips
What a fucking loser. He could lose Texas. TEXAS!!!
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/08/22/monmouth-university-pollster-patrick-murray-busted-manipulating-poll-data-then-lying-about-it/#more-120488
The polls are blatantly fake. The fake polls are created to fabricate more "news" (propaganda) about how DJT is losing massively, and convince us that there's no point in voting because he's losing so bad. Idiots eat this shit up and even post it to their favorite Internet forum with a bunch of exclamation points. Too bad they'll be humiliated, if they aren't already, come November
The article proves that pollsters are changing the poll numbers literally based on Party ID. They weigh democrat responses more heavily. Pathetic polling, pathetic people, pathetic candidate, pathetic supporters. The Hillary people couldn't be more pathetic.
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Re: Trump campaign signals possible shift on immigration stance [Re: qman]
#23566765 - 08/22/16 05:48 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: the wall is about the only thing that anyone has proposed that makes any sort of sense, and it still will not be made effective. the wall will still come out of taxpayer's dime, too. LOL
and that's it. that's the only thing that makes sense in this election.
A border wall offers an excellent return on investment for US taxpayers and US workers, I'm glad you finally have come to your senses.
he only did so because hillary said she wanted to build a wall
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Re: Trump campaign signals possible shift on immigration stance [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23566774 - 08/22/16 05:50 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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LOL, that's fundamental bullshit.
read the damn Trump threads in politics, i have never been against the wall, only the politics behind the wall, and i've been suspicious of it's efficacy in being built without it costing more money than it's worth, or rather, what people are speculating it'll be worth, monetarily.
but a wall, per se, nope, never been against it.
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Re: Trump campaign signals possible shift on immigration stance [Re: akira_akuma]
#23566778 - 08/22/16 05:51 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: .but deporting people...that, however, is pretty manipulative. banning immigration from certain countries, Afghanistan, Syria, ect, is fine, but deporting people is unconstitutional and sneaky, all at once.
koods tells us that obama has deported more illegals than any other president, does that bean that he's violated the constitution?
can you show us where in the constitution it say people cannot be deported?
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Re: Trump campaign signals possible shift on immigration stance [Re: akira_akuma]
#23566784 - 08/22/16 05:52 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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but a wall, per se, nope, never been against it.
per se, lol
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Re: Trump campaign signals possible shift on immigration stance [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23566802 - 08/22/16 05:55 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: does that bean
That's racist
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Re: Trump campaign signals possible shift on immigration stance [Re: koods] 1
#23566806 - 08/22/16 05:56 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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That's racist
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Re: Trump campaign signals possible shift on immigration stance [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23566814 - 08/22/16 05:59 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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yes, per se. as in, a wall is just a defence of a border. there are tons of walls. walls are not a big deal. the cost-effectiveness of the big giant wall that covers the entire US border, that's what the deal is. so yes, per se.
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akira_akuma said: .but deporting people...that, however, is pretty manipulative. banning immigration from certain countries, Afghanistan, Syria, ect, is fine, but deporting people is unconstitutional and sneaky, all at once.
koods tells us that obama has deported more illegals than any other president, does that bean that he's violated the constitution?
can you show us where in the constitution it say people cannot be deported?
i'm not talking about deporting illegals. i was talking to Qman about what i've "finally gotten on board with", which is a mis-ID, but i'm grateful nonetheless for his understanding.
i was talking about banning immigration from certain nations that may be harboring terrorists, and how when it comes to "banning Muslims" due to the threat of Islamic terrorism, it wouldn't be constitutional or ethical to then treat Muslims like second-class citizens, give them undue searches due to their status as a Muslim; you certainly can't ban these people, you can't deport them, seeing as they are US citizens. i'm not talking about illegals.
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Re: Trump campaign signals possible shift on immigration stance [Re: akira_akuma]
#23566853 - 08/22/16 06:15 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: yes, per se. as in, a wall is just a defence of a border. there are tons of walls. walls are not a big deal. the cost-effectiveness of the big giant wall that covers the entire US border, that's what the deal is. so yes, per se.
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akira_akuma said: .but deporting people...that, however, is pretty manipulative. banning immigration from certain countries, Afghanistan, Syria, ect, is fine, but deporting people is unconstitutional and sneaky, all at once.
koods tells us that obama has deported more illegals than any other president, does that bean that he's violated the constitution?
can you show us where in the constitution it say people cannot be deported?
i'm not talking about deporting illegals. i was talking to Qman about what i've "finally gotten on board with", which is a mis-ID, but i'm grateful nonetheless for his understanding.
i was talking about banning immigration from certain nations that may be harboring terrorists, and how when it comes to "banning Muslims" due to the threat of Islamic terrorism, it wouldn't be constitutional or ethical to then treat Muslims like second-class citizens, give them undue searches due to their status as a Muslim; you certainly can't ban these people, you can't deport them, seeing as they are US citizens. i'm not talking about illegals.
you quite plainly stated that deporting people was manipulative and unconstitutional but since obama does it you've decided to backpedal
again
trump wasnt talking about building a wall around the middle east
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Re: Trump campaign signals possible shift on immigration stance [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23566864 - 08/22/16 06:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Trump was talking about deporting Muslims for being Muslim, and there were talks of special Muslim ID's. all such bullshit unconstitutional; and if Obama did it, i'd be against it too.
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Re: Trump campaign signals possible shift on immigration stance [Re: akira_akuma]
#23566930 - 08/22/16 06:42 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: Trump was talking about deporting Muslims for being Muslim, and there were talks of special Muslim ID's. all such bullshit unconstitutional; and if Obama did it, i'd be against it too.
No, Trump never talked about deporting Muslim Americans, he said they shouldn't come to the US from other nations. He said illegals should be deported, big difference.
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Re: Trump campaign signals possible shift on immigration stance [Re: qman]
#23566956 - 08/22/16 06:49 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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now now, i do believe he stated that, and other's have too. he also did mention ID's.
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