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OfflineLucisM
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    #23564206 - 08/21/16 08:52 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Anyone get into Hinduism?  I have been reading a decent amount about Buddhism recently, but one belief I have not studied enough of is Hinduism, and from the small amount I have read about it, it seems fascinating.  It seems very similar to Buddhism.

I really like how they view all paths that teach a good way of living, as being part of God, so they're not so egotistical to say their belief is the only way.  That is my stance on religion too, that if it promotes a positive outlook in the person practicing it, then that person should continue doing so.

I live very close to the Hindu temple in my area, might drop in sometime and see what it's about.

If you have read much about Hinduism, please share something you have gained from it. 

I spoke with a guy years ago about Hinduism, we got into that conversation because he found out I was fascinated by Amanita muscaria, and had used it for a number of ailments.  He told me about the Vedas, and how people thought Amanita muscaria was the Soma mentioned throughout the Vedas, anyone know more about that, and have a good source or two regarding muscaria and Soma?


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Re: Hinduism [Re: Lucis]
    #23564301 - 08/21/16 09:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Why not just do your own thing? Why go around subscribing to old ass ideologies, rules, or guidelines that are only alive still because of indoctrination?


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Re: Hinduism [Re: Eminence]
    #23564488 - 08/21/16 10:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Why not just do your own thing? Why go around subscribing to old ass ideologies, rules, or guidelines that are only alive still because of indoctrination?




just seek man, we're all divine light as creation is...

Read the Upanishads or Gita, they share eternal truth.

this Being, it's very infinite, attractive, timeless, imperceptible (:

P.S. Atman is Brahman -

One Breath.. getcha scripture game going Ight boi :tripping:

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Re: Hinduism [Re: Eminence]
    #23564570 - 08/21/16 11:24 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

You might want to check out the book sacred soma shamans. They also have a book called soma divine elixir which is about amanita muscaria, soma and the vedas I believe. I have only read the first book.

Their scholarship has been criticized and honestly they aren't much more than a pair of hippies who learned about amanita through decades of self experimentation.

However, I found there book FAR more useful and interesting than the much more scholarly and comprehensive work on Soma and amanita muscaria Divine Mushroom of Immortality by Gordon Wasson.

If you want actual practical information and as well as deep spiritual insight regarding amanita muscaria, get the first book. If you want very lengthy scholarly academic research theories about amanita muscaria with relatively little revelation from the mushroom itself get the Wasson book.

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Why not just do your own thing? Why go around subscribing to old ass ideologies, rules, or guidelines that are only alive still because of indoctrination?




I think there is a difference between studying religions like Hinduism in order to expose yourself to new ideas, ways of thinking, information and methods of transforming consciosness vs indoctrinating yourself to where you  now believe Hinduism is the truth and you must follow all its tenets and anyone who disagrees with Hinduism is deluded.


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Re: Hinduism [Re: Peyote Road]
    #23564577 - 08/21/16 11:28 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I suppose. Idk man, religion just kinda creeps me out. :shrug:


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Re: Hinduism [Re: Eminence] * 1
    #23565321 - 08/22/16 08:39 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Why not just do your own thing? Why go around subscribing to old ass ideologies, rules, or guidelines that are only alive still because of indoctrination?





I have stated this on shroomery before, but have not seen you around so will reiterate my stance on spirituality.

I do my own thing, always have, always will.  But I find truths in beliefs which I like to read about, and am not affiliated with any one path.  I cherry pick the things which I find useful, and apply those to my life, and that goes onto forming my spirituality, with my spirituality being made up of numerous things I have learned along the path of life.

I want to understand others as best I can, and I feel like trying to understand why others put their faith in certain things, can only benefit my life.  I have read a great deal about the occult/left hand paths, the Abrahamic religions, and several Eastern religions, and they all fascinate me.

But, for ease of conversation, if I had to define my beliefs, I am very close to nature, and probably very close to American Indian beliefs.  I don't make any bold assumptions that I know what God is, for myself God is a great mystery, and I like it that way because I feel like it allows me to keep an open mind when talking to those who are different than myself.

I have always found it incredibly egotistical for one group to say their God is the only true God, just seems wrong to me.


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Re: Hinduism [Re: Lucis]
    #23565366 - 08/22/16 09:00 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I do like Hinduism's more inclusive nature as you said, I see that as a real positive thing :smile:

as others have said, and as you said, I think following your own inner guidance and direction is the best bet rather than trying to adhere to beliefs that don't fully resonate with your being

this transcript of a talk by Bentinho Massaro I thought was awesome, and is about traditional spirituality versus following your own excitement and your own spirit :smile: http://www.bentinhomassaro.com/read/from-traditional-spirituality-to-a-truly-free-existence


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    #23565411 - 08/22/16 09:18 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

just to add a bit more related to Hinduism - one concept/teaching from it that I really like is how they delineate different yogas or spiritual paths such as:

bhakti yoga - yoga of devotion
karma yoga - yoga of action/service
jnana yoga - yoga of knowledge/insight
raja yoga - 'royal yoga' involving meditation and discipline
and others...

and how a well-balanced spiritual approach will include aspects of all of them to some extent, and how people with different temperaments will focus more on one aspect than others. also i think as one progresses in their practice that their focus and interest can shift.

i think it's a very useful and insightful way to think about the spiritual path, at least from one perspective of it :smile:


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Re: Hinduism [Re: Lucis]
    #23567866 - 08/23/16 12:02 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Eminence said:
Why not just do your own thing? Why go around subscribing to old ass ideologies, rules, or guidelines that are only alive still because of indoctrination?





I have stated this on shroomery before, but have not seen you around so will reiterate my stance on spirituality.

I do my own thing, always have, always will.  But I find truths in beliefs which I like to read about, and am not affiliated with any one path.  I cherry pick the things which I find useful, and apply those to my life, and that goes onto forming my spirituality, with my spirituality being made up of numerous things I have learned along the path of life.

I want to understand others as best I can, and I feel like trying to understand why others put their faith in certain things, can only benefit my life.  I have read a great deal about the occult/left hand paths, the Abrahamic religions, and several Eastern religions, and they all fascinate me.

But, for ease of conversation, if I had to define my beliefs, I am very close to nature, and probably very close to American Indian beliefs.  I don't make any bold assumptions that I know what God is, for myself God is a great mystery, and I like it that way because I feel like it allows me to keep an open mind when talking to those who are different than myself.

I have always found it incredibly egotistical for one group to say their God is the only true God, just seems wrong to me.




COuldn't have said it better myself. I have also found much value in reading about religion and philosophy and I also like Native American beliefs, although I find they are some of the most difficult to understand. Unlike Buddhism for instance, you do not find a plethora of Native Americans writing books explaining what their spirituality is about to the white man.


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Re: Hinduism [Re: Lucis] * 2
    #23574695 - 08/25/16 12:31 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Well, there really isn't any singular entity Hinduism. Hindu refers to people who live around the Indus River - []indus, Hindus. There are so many disparate aspects of religion in India that as soon as you investigate, you will encounter religious forms from the most primitive animism to the most sublime non-dualism. There are personal and impersonal forms, theistic and non-theistic, emotional-devotional (Bhakti), and intellectual-contemplative (Jnani). There is the Mahabharata, the Bhagavad Gita, Samkya, Advaita, and the Yogas. There is the influence of popular religion, the myth of Ganesh for example. Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva worshippers, saddhus, sannyyasins, house-holders. The literature is pretty extensive. Ever watch the film with Bill Murray based on the book by Somerset Maugham, The Razor's Edge? Watch it. I personally don't care for the protagonist's conclusions about life at the end, but it remains one of my favorite films and has a Hindu and a Buddhist theme. Maybe you'll decide to read the Upanishads after watching it. :wink:


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Re: Hinduism [Re: Lucis] * 2
    #23575292 - 08/25/16 08:21 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Fennario said:I do my own thing, always have, always will.  But I find truths in beliefs which I like to read about, and am not affiliated with any one path.  I cherry pick the things which I find useful, and apply those to my life, and that goes onto forming my spirituality, with my spirituality being made up of numerous things I have learned along the path of life.

I want to understand others as best I can, and I feel like trying to understand why others put their faith in certain things, can only benefit my life.  I have read a great deal about the occult/left hand paths, the Abrahamic religions, and several Eastern religions, and they all fascinate me.

But, for ease of conversation, if I had to define my beliefs, I am very close to nature, and probably very close to American Indian beliefs.  I don't make any bold assumptions that I know what God is, for myself God is a great mystery, and I like it that way because I feel like it allows me to keep an open mind when talking to those who are different than myself.




Hola....Fennario!  All this is really good; great to see.  Especially the part about Native American... very cool..  Hinduism is actually probably closest to that.  Now - as the poster above me mentioned, Hinduism is a term not from Vedas, but from outside -- however, almost every single living breathing Hindu has adopted it.... at least from my experience, so you won't be making any faux-pax (whatsoever) if you use it as well.

Technically, the religion is Sanatana-Dharma , this means Way of the Soul, or eternal way of the soul.  That comes from the Vedas, etc..

I could write for many pages about it, but for simplicity's sake - the basics are

a) Ahimsa, or non-violence,

and. . . so forth --- one of the very greatest Hindu teachers - Swami Vivekannada - wrote, 'the Vedas are dust,' .... interestingly, our own Henry David Thoreau highly praised the Vedas (( there was one colorful phrase or sentence he used, but I do not remember it adequately enough to paraphrase ))..

Lovely, there has long been a lot of cross-fertilization between America and India . . . for instance, Gandhi's movement peaceful - non-violent, civil disobedience - was inspired by the very same H. David Thoreau. 

So's I don't write a book, I'll end there, but will check in on the thread later.  Reverence for nature is central - for instance, one Hindu - Jadav Payeng - discovered the loss of animal life due to loss of tree life -- and single-handedly planted over a thousand acre forest.

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Re: Hinduism [Re: graceful dragon]
    #23576791 - 08/25/16 05:01 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Buddhism came out from hinduism, maybe thats why there are a lot of similarities.

And i do the same i try to learn from everything.

According to a swami that i cant remember his name, said that soma is a creeper plant and still being used in inda, most probably morning glory, but nothing can be proved of course.

Anyway both are very interesting, deep, and spiritual as they talk to both the mind and the soul.

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Re: Hinduism [Re: oontribe]
    #23579339 - 08/26/16 10:36 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

ya :smile:

i love that one of Ram Dass' teachers, Babaji ( i kinda forget the rest of his name atm, heh )

called LSD 'yogi medicine' and said, 'you can take it, if you are in a cool place, and alone, and your mind is turned to God,'

hehe. . if i remember the story, he played with Ram Dass a bit, making him think that it messed him up,. . .

and right when he was , 'oh my gosh, what have i done,' then he returned to normal and went on and explained that yogis have known about it for a long time, but no one does the preparation for it anymore.

lovely to have a spiritual person with a realistic and knowledgeable understanding about it :smile: hehe

as opposed to, of course, etc. :smile:



(  on the topic of soma, etc., but, i suppose a return to the general topioc of Hinduism is worthwhile )

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Re: Hinduism [Re: Lucis]
    #23583184 - 08/27/16 11:09 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

There is a nectar that comes from within through the meditative practices or grace (past efforts), from the crown or third eye chakra. I'm not sure if this would be soma.

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Re: Hinduism [Re: syncro]
    #23583787 - 08/27/16 02:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Brahman's way of reality. Timothy Leary talks about designing your own reality. I'm interested in Brahman's superior reality.

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    #23669291 - 09/22/16 08:10 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

A M R U T


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    #23682203 - 09/27/16 05:07 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

13 years ago I "accidentally" got shaktipat while reading a Gopi Krishna book about Kundalini. It was like a 2-hour long drug trip. Unitive consciousness. It was actually the reason I quit drugs ("Don't need these anymore!").

I don't think I ever even finished the book. I was halfway through, max, when it happened. I had to put the book down and lay down. It came on so quick, it reminded me of how fast you have to get in position after you snort enough ketamine to put yourself in a k-hole. It wasn't physically debilitating like that, I just didn't know what the fuck was going on and wanted to be safe.

I'm not capable of adhering to any religion because spirituality comes too easily for me to take details very seriously, but Hinduism has always been one I gravitate to and draw from on a very casual basis. I identify a lot with Kali.

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Re: Hinduism [Re: 100_the_cat] * 1
    #23682501 - 09/27/16 08:39 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

fascinating; right ya, with that part that it comes easily...

same, with not doing drugs anymore (except coffee. COFFEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE) hehe. . lol :smile:

i am soon.

I read that same Gopi Krishna book I think, if it was kinda the main one. . . good one for sure. . .

check out Amma (song) :sun:

Devi Devi Devi, by Amma

Love and peace.

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