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I like going on Erowid and reading the most horrific trip reports I can find
Do you mean "train wreck" type trips or the kind of psychological horror which is all in the tripper's head?
I keep a notepad file where I try to remember to paste the url's of anything I find interesting, entertaining or useful for future reference.....so let's have a look:
Four "train wrecks" for you, with increasing levels of unpleasantness:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12491554 10g cubensis + 4g Rue
http://www.shroomery.org/11303/Dxm-trip-disaster 1900mg DXM + police + coma
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12671969 [BromoDragonFLY] Hospital, nearly die..
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14284531 with more detail here - http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14294372#14294372 Wiccan Seeker MPDV mixup/overdose
There's also some interesting "ongoing psychosis" type trips like this one: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11606181#11606181 "I found a church while wearing only my pajama pants, no socks, no shoes, no shirt."
and one of my favourites is not really horrific but has some award-winning levels of post-trip insanity: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/1660118#1660118 LSD psychosis aftermath "my multiple day descent into madness"
I think some of the deliriant reports are the most interesting, although they tend to be a bit more fragmentary for obvious reasons.
As an general intro:
Wiccan Seeker - datura & deleriants - a warning to the curious http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/8934590#8934590 "Tropane country: Going straight to HELL while trippin"
From my notes - below are some interesting quotes from datura/deliriant threads, plus links to longer stories / reports or interesting threads. All generally on the theme of creepy, horrifying or just generally fucked-up experiences:
And for the record, I would not advise anyone to try this kind of stuff, for reasons which should become clear when you spend any time reading about it.....
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12740915#12740915 Good general datura description "you snap in and out of a waking dream like state with full blown hallucinations that are completely 100% realistic"
husk: I have never done it. It is a deleriant. my vocalist did it, from what he tells me it seems very unpleasent cause it comes and goes in waves, ok for a psych but with a deleriant you kinda don't wanna keep being reminded that you have no idea what is going on. Your brain normally stops your memories and imagination from infringing on perceptual reality, datura seems to make that stop happening. he kept seeing people from his past, people who had moved on and he believed they were there like you do in a dream, then bang they'd be gone. He reckons it was so real that it still scares him today knowing that he can never really beleive in reality completely as the brain is capable of creating its own reality completely perfect and sperate, he can never know if he has woken up, not for sure. we can't tell if his sleep talking and sometimes walking emerged before or after as he was quite young when he dose'd himself
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/9479195#9479195 Creepy & violent Datura visuals (deCypher) "Spiders. Lots of spiders, pouring through the cracks of reality as if puncturing through this thin veil of ordinary life. I feel things gently running over my body. I don't open my eyes"
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10725639#10725639 Good datura report: "The same crimson blood from the McDonald's was cascading down the steps. It began to rise over my shoes, up my legs"
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/4641369 Datura instead of Shrooms (in chocolate)
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/9479168 Datura Stramonium and Cannabis Indica... an unholy matrimony of blood, fire, and death
Cynosure "A few years back, after ingesting quite a number of tested Datura stramonium seeds, I went on a full-blown, psychotic, 24-hour journey through hell and back. The experience itself was only frightening in a few places but upon looking back on all of the events of the evening I can feel fear. It was truly an amazing time. I won't transcribe the entire experience here, but for this story you will need to know at one point I saw miniature men (not dwarves/midgets, their proportions were correct.. it was basically like a human scaled down in size) seemingly of a mexican skin tone running across my bed, climbing up my dresser, and stealing things from my room and wallet. Of course, during the experience I thought they were real and actually stealing my things."
http://www.shroomery.org/11314/1st-time-Benadryl-trip "When i looked over at it this guy was staring at me from the drain. I ignored it and kept walking. While i was walking i could hear this man running underground."
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15697761/page/3 Jdub1 "Datura, is to me somewhat of an enigma Apon my experimentation with this plant i found a number of facinating things. One, that i can become invisible. And two, i have ginormous hands that can cover an area far greater than any normal mans hand. All miricles? maybe. But seriously now. Imo, this plant doesnt get as much credit as it deserves. Atleast from my investigations on the internet on datura, compared to my experiences on datura, i'd have to say that mine were a bit better. The thing is, when one is under the influence of datura, there are moments when things external to ones self can take on a life of thier own. The mind debates over whether or not these things are physical, and often poeple are witnessed interacting with things that are not there or not as they seem to be. Thats because they are not a part of this physical realm as you like. It can be decietefull to normal sensory. I've noticed alot of what is experienced when deep into the state datura induces is visual and comes in waves. Visions can last anywhere from a few secons to much longer. Some things can become clear or more distorted at will by focusing and concentrating. Some of my favourite visions came to me all in one night after about 4-5 days of full on datura use. I saw images of men and aien races in outer space battling it out in highly advanced space craft of different sizes and capabilitys. It was like It was bing projected in digital animation for me inside my head as i lay on the grass Staring at the sky that night. I've been summoned to places I have little recolection of. Seen crowds of people apearing from trees and grass. I've passed crack pipes with a celelbrity. I've controlled a string of seemingling infinite text scrolling out of a fifty cent coin with my finger like an eye pod. I've noticed multidimentional subliminal advertising on multiple products. I saw the end of my index finger get cut off in a second and then reapear The list goes on.."
MagicinMichigan: "There is a thin line between not that bad at low dose effects&holy fucking shit help me delerium status. Be careful friend, have a sober friend, and dose smartly if you are going to do this. I did a few low&smei-enjoyable doses before I fucked up stoned one night and dosed the extract thinking it was a weak weed tincture I had made... All I can say is I'll never attempt even the low doses I used to enjoy of the stuff anymore. It wasn't a ton, but it was a decent amount more than my normal dose and holy fucking shit did it mess my head up for a few weeks after the come down. I would say I'm still different from it, although not in a skittish weird way like the days following, more of a reverence and appreciation of how powerful and scary nature can be while being beautiful at the same time. There are dark sides to the beauty we enjoy with other natural highs and datura showed me the dark side of the natural world, allowed me to be open to the very dark energies out there hidden behind the beautiful ones. When I came out of that trip, if you could even call it that, I was truly scared to my bones for awhile to follow. Some shit you can't unsee, some evils are better left unseen. That's all I can say about that, not all nature is friendly... I've learned a respect for every chemical I've ever done, and this one I show more respect than I would heroin or meth in the sense that it's so powerful & it terrifies me to my very core. The latter I respect by not partaking anymore as I used to be controlled by them in my youth, they don't scare me they just controlled me, datura scares me, or at least what it can show you scares me."
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healing "I've never done datura. It's generally not a good idea. I've taken a different deliriant though, diphenhydramine (Benadryl). It's not fun. It's not entertaining, it's not pleasant. It is very disorienting. You will find your self eating a sandwich. You will turn to thank your mom for making it only to realize that you have your eyes closed... and you're in your room on the floor in an elevator that never stops until you notice something on the floor. It's not a cigarette, but you figure it will work just as well so you smoke it and offer a drag to your friend who is perching on top of your coffee table. They decline and you find yourself driving down a narrow, winding road at night... It just keeps going like that. You don't really realize that it's happening, though. Everything you experience while under the influence of a deliriant seems normal and real, but you're really just lying in bed perfectly still, or in a hospital, or in jail." -------------------------------------
420HappyHippy http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13569355#13569355 Some interesting snippets in this thread about experiences on deleriants: "Things appear and disappear all over. Nothings real, and yet everythings real. Everything is a hallucination. You are a hallucination. You lose grip in the blur of realitys and wake up the next day with the worse hangover of your life. People will tell you of the madness that happened when you black out, and you will be empty and disturbed because of the harsh memorys."
Cynosure "Deliriants can be fun and quite the experience as long as you are careful with them. I tend to hallucinate people (even some that I know- which is a mind fuck), bugs (spiders, ants, etc.), and small animals (snakes, mice, etc) more than anything. One time, on a high dose of Datura stramonium, I saw alien-like creatures and some monsters.. a few other times, on high doses of Diphenhydramine, I've seen or felt the presence of monsters-like creatures. Expect to be scared, uncomfortable, or uneasy. That's what they do. The body load is awful (chances are you won't be able to see correctly for days) and if you happen to focus on how awful the body load is you'll usually find yourself thinking that you're dying. It's happened to me many times and I've seen it happen to others countless times as well. I can't stress enough how important I think it is to have a person on ground control duty. I would do some research on the effects before you do them (I don't feel that asking us is enough). Ensure that you have someone there to let you know that you are fucked up (especially if it's your first time) as you won't be able to distinguish 'reality' from hallucinations. I see deliriants in this light: your deepest fears (conscious and subconscious) are projected into reality and you are face- to-face with them for hours on end. Sometimes, if the consumed deliriant is feeling up to it, you will capture a glimpse of something cool or euphoric to temporarily distract you, or give you break, from the chaos."
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Some personal experiences:
As for the more internal psychological type of horror, I've had a few trips where I became 100% convinced that I was about to die imminently, but the most sustained unpleasantness (mainly from sheer intensity + negative vibe) was probably during this trip:
Hellbound in room 305 "People are pushing biros into my eyes and razor-blading my dinosaurs"
while for pure intensity followed by madness I would go for this one:
Pans Cyans: Outrageous Visuals, God & the Zoo Inside My Brain "This is harder than you think. This is harder than you can believe. This is like eating madness. This is like eating insects. This is the zoo that replicates. This is punishment with sharp instruments. This is coming in waves and I cannot fight it."
And sometimes I get trips which have a really dark vibe but I enjoy it a lot: 50g Mexicana Sclerotia - BURN EVERYTHING
And if it all gets too much, don't forget to phone the "bad trip hotline" (just a little joke, where all the scenarios are from my own trip journals)....
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BAD TRIP HOTLINE
Your death is being held in a queue. Please continue to hold. Please try to stay calm as the panic attack intensifies.
Please choose from the following options to allow us to direct your stomach-churning drug-fuelled kaleidoscopic delusional psychosis to the correct department:
*If you are lost within a maze of lies and confusion, press 1
*If you have discovered a new color and that color is all your worst nightmares condensed into hell, press 2.
*If you are tumbling through a million different deaths in order to find your own, press 3.
*If you have been brought back from the dead and wish to register a complaint about it, press 4.
*If you are being dive-bombed through 36000 feet of madness, press 5
*If you have been soured by a reptilian myth into oceans of disaster, press 6.
*If you are riding the deathships, with blood on the decks, press 7
*If you see subway trains being torn apart by alien limbs every time you close your eyes , press 8
*If you are trapped under the rubble inside the cities of the dead, press 9
*If you have lost all hope dial 0, and as you spiral into new dimensions each more horrific than the last, know that the phones lines are down, and understand that you are the only one here and that you are talking to yourself.
-------------------- I wrote that, but I meant something else
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