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What is the simplest way to cultivate Liberty Caps?
#23563445 - 08/21/16 04:47 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I know how to make a spore syringe, and i do Agrocybe Molesta spore syring for testing. I know it is not psychoactive, just for testing.
How i can grow Liberty Caps? What is the simplest way to cultivate Liberty Caps without a grow kit?
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Re: What is the simplest way to cultivate Liberty Caps? [Re: antos]
#23563586 - 08/21/16 05:33 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6926284#6926284
good luck, they're not simple. this is what an expert managed to pull off indoors.
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Re: What is the simplest way to cultivate Liberty Caps? [Re: bodhisatta]
#23563603 - 08/21/16 05:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Is there a problem with using cow manure instead of horse manure? And how i can sterilize this manure?
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Re: What is the simplest way to cultivate Liberty Caps? [Re: antos] 2
#23563655 - 08/21/16 05:56 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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if these are your questions you should start with a species that you have more than a 1% chance of being able to fruit. I would probably have no success on my first few attempts to fruit them indoors.
try something like psilocybe cubensis. they're easy to cultivate indoors.
you can sterilize cow or horse poo in jars in a pressure cooker.
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Re: What is the simplest way to cultivate Liberty Caps? [Re: bodhisatta]
#23563701 - 08/21/16 06:14 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Okey, Psilocybe Cubensis does not grows in my country and Psilocybe Cyanescens is very rare. But i can find Liberty Caps easily, i do not have a another choice.
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Re: What is the simplest way to cultivate Liberty Caps? [Re: antos]
#23563775 - 08/21/16 06:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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antos said: How i can grow Liberty Caps? What is the simplest way to cultivate Liberty Caps without a grow kit?
agar to grain grain to grain spawn that to straw manure and put it outside and grow it there.
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Re: What is the simplest way to cultivate Liberty Caps? [Re: antos]
#23564284 - 08/21/16 09:22 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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hey why do you want to grow liberty caps? they are small and thin you know.
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Re: What is the simplest way to cultivate Liberty Caps? [Re: cronicr]
#23564286 - 08/21/16 09:23 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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how to make the straw manure?
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Re: What is the simplest way to cultivate Liberty Caps? [Re: paracelsusgold]
#23564289 - 08/21/16 09:26 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sometimes it's about the species not the scale. ..I found sterilizing the subs in bags better as they colonize slowly
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Re: What is the simplest way to cultivate Liberty Caps? [Re: antos]
#23564290 - 08/21/16 09:26 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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anthos horse manure is easier to work with and you do not need to sterilize it
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Re: What is the simplest way to cultivate Liberty Caps? [Re: paracelsusgold]
#23564294 - 08/21/16 09:27 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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It can take 30 to 45 days to colonize even at 1 to 1 spawn to substrate
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Re: What is the simplest way to cultivate Liberty Caps? [Re: cronicr]
#23565607 - 08/22/16 10:57 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I decide to use Worm manure. I will not use Vermiculite but i can find easily Gypsum.
Edited by antos (08/22/16 11:05 AM)
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Re: What is the simplest way to cultivate Liberty Caps? [Re: paracelsusgold]
#23565617 - 08/22/16 11:00 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey, they are so common. And they have a high psilocybin content.
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Re: What is the simplest way to cultivate Liberty Caps? [Re: antos]
#23565629 - 08/22/16 11:04 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Gypsum and some water to Worm manure, Mixture to Jar, Spores to Jar and let them grow. (I will sterilize)
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Re: What is the simplest way to cultivate Liberty Caps? [Re: antos] 1
#23565638 - 08/22/16 11:09 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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What exactly is worm manure and why are you using random materials to grow a species that even experts have difficulty with? You'd get a whole lot more return for your effort to grow a species that likes being grown indoors.
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Re: What is the simplest way to cultivate Liberty Caps? [Re: Inocuole]
#23565662 - 08/22/16 11:19 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well, not random: Worm castings
I will try my chance.
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Re: What is the simplest way to cultivate Liberty Caps? [Re: antos] 1
#23565703 - 08/22/16 11:31 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you get a single fruit you will be miles ahead of 98% of people who tried before you.
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Re: What is the simplest way to cultivate Liberty Caps? [Re: Pastywhyte] 1
#23565733 - 08/22/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't know why these pieces of information don't do it for some people... Is everybody born with that "I'm special and I can do things with ease even if more experienced struggle with it" mentality now?
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Re: What is the simplest way to cultivate Liberty Caps? [Re: Inocuole]
#23565786 - 08/22/16 11:57 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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LoL. Maybe i'm in %2, because i'm (not) special.
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Re: What is the simplest way to cultivate Liberty Caps? [Re: antos] 1
#23565794 - 08/22/16 12:00 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: What is the simplest way to cultivate Liberty Caps? [Re: PirateSwazey]
#23565810 - 08/22/16 12:05 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I say anyone with some decent experience should give the impossible a shot. But keep the expectations low. It's also important that such a person have a solid grounding in cultivation to be able to notice any vectors that could have led to success. If for example it turns out thigtropism is important to creating a pinning response it could easily be overlooked by a novice.
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Re: What is the simplest way to cultivate Liberty Caps? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23566024 - 08/22/16 01:34 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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You are right. So as a noob, what i need to do?
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Re: What is the simplest way to cultivate Liberty Caps? [Re: antos]
#23566042 - 08/22/16 01:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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antos said: You are right. So as a noob, what i need to do?
Learn to walk before flying. Grow some cubes. Get used to what mushrooms need. Their lifecycle. Culturing practice. How to recognise when things are wrong. Its not going to be exactly the same cause every species has its own quirks but you need some experience under your belt.
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Re: What is the simplest way to cultivate Liberty Caps? [Re: antos]
#23566076 - 08/22/16 01:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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antos said: Okey, Psilocybe Cubensis does not grows in my country and Psilocybe Cyanescens is very rare. But i can find Liberty Caps easily, i do not have a another choice.
It is the exact same in my country. You do have a choice, buy spores, it would be easier to grow Cyanescens outdoors than libs, easier than indoors too, hell it would probably be easier to grow cubes outdoors where you are than libs, I have seen it done in the UK.
Growing libs would be a huge achievement, with a pitiful yield even if it was regarded as an amazing yield. If you just want a dose the easiest thing to grow IMO is sclerotia/stones/"magic truffles"/truffles, and cubensis after that. You will see little or no guides on growing semis/libs, for good reason. Just like you will see no guides on growing some gourmet truffles, but will on other edibles.
As I said I guess you are after a dose. It would be like me saying I am feeling hungry, will I try growing cocoa beans and making chocolate bars, or growing some potatoes and making baked potatoes. Or trying to grow gourmet truffles, rather than easy to grow edible shrooms.
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Re: What is the simplest way to cultivate Liberty Caps? [Re: blackout]
#23566178 - 08/22/16 02:31 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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What is the best? Buying as spore print or spore syringe...
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Re: What is the simplest way to cultivate Liberty Caps? [Re: antos]
#23566186 - 08/22/16 02:34 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well assuming you start with pf tek you will need a syringe. I suggest starting with one before attempting to make one.
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Re: What is the simplest way to cultivate Liberty Caps? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23566264 - 08/22/16 03:03 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: I suggest starting with one before attempting to make one.
+1, usually cheaper and hopefully cleaner than you would make.
I still would advise starting with sclerotia as it's more foolproof, but is more boring grow-wise. If buying from one of the long term sponsors if you buy a sclerotia/stone/truffle producing strain and mention you are a shroomery member they usually will throw in a random cube strain too, and any cubes they carry will do just fine. I will send a pm.
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Re: What is the simplest way to cultivate Liberty Caps? [Re: blackout]
#23566400 - 08/22/16 03:51 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I want to do this as my next project, I know it won't be easy, and I'm by no means an expert.
I want to do an outdoor patch, start experimenting with spores on agar etc indoors and as they grow wild near me as well I figure cloning some wild fruit might be a starting point too. Something I've never done but I'll give it a shot 
I imagine it would be immensely satisfying to succeed plus I love libs 
I'll keep in touch, any advice always welcome
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Re: What is the simplest way to cultivate Liberty Caps? [Re: Smoothcat]
#23566410 - 08/22/16 03:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Libs by all accounts are fairly easy outside. Cron puts all his indoor attempts outside so they end producing in the end.
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Re: What is the simplest way to cultivate Liberty Caps? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23566417 - 08/22/16 03:57 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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easy n fast...tbh it kinda pisses me off
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Re: What is the simplest way to cultivate Liberty Caps? [Re: cronicr]
#23566450 - 08/22/16 04:07 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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mushrooms really are dicks.
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Re: What is the simplest way to cultivate Liberty Caps? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23566453 - 08/22/16 04:08 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hi Pasty!! Hi Cron!! :
Not started anything yet, I was thinking of doing it in a kind of self contained planter thing outside, putting grass in it to make it try and recreate where I found it.
I'll be starting on agar one way or another and from there it'll be either rye or possibly brf as it seems to be recommended here. I wonder if I could colonise coir and then mix it in to the planter outdoors? Hmmm possibilities....
Either way I need to get spores first as I won't be able to get wild fruit until the Autumn 
Might have to hit you up for some info Cron if you've had good success
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Re: What is the simplest way to cultivate Liberty Caps? [Re: Smoothcat]
#23566537 - 08/22/16 04:32 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Good lucks everyone
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Re: What is the simplest way to cultivate Liberty Caps? [Re: paracelsusgold]
#24593597 - 08/31/17 03:21 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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what about sheep shit? i've been picking every year for about 10 years and all grow in sheep fields/ mountains
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Re: What is the simplest way to cultivate Liberty Caps? [Re: mrFunguyMan]
#24593747 - 08/31/17 04:33 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'd imagine it would work fine I used cow manure coir and coffee
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Re: What is the simplest way to cultivate Liberty Caps? [Re: cronicr]
#24593887 - 08/31/17 05:26 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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I reckon as long as you make sure to take into account that they are saprotrophic then it shouldn't be impossible. Along with ensuring correct temperature, Soils pH, Good drainage and strong nutrients.
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Re: What is the simplest way to cultivate Liberty Caps? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#27415529 - 08/05/21 02:07 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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I know it an old thread but I didn’t know shrooms like to be fondled LMAO I had to look it up
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Re: What is the simplest way to cultivate Liberty Caps? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#27415544 - 08/05/21 02:18 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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I’m interested in the challenge and not afraid of failure so I’ve been thinking about what it would take to try an indoor cultivation of liberty caps. I’ve seen people get to the point of successfully colonized substrate but only a couple skilled individuals have managed to get even one mushroom to show . I was thinking , I haven’t seen anybody do a lawn in a box , maybe ,the organism likes pasture so we need to plant a little lawn or case it with some sort of sod or live grass of some kind. Just theoretical and hypothetical if anybody’s got any ideas or wants to pick a part mine please sound off. I will drill holes in the bottom of a big tub and fill it with a couple inches of coarse perlite or gravel on top of that a piece of cardboard then a bunch of colonize substrate maybe a thin layer of earth worm casings and vermiculite then some grass seed and light and water to get a nice little lawn over the top of your substrate. Water it give it lots of light trim it maybe and hope for the best! So what do the trusted cultivators think? Anyone replying please be gentle my heart is on my sleeve here haha
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Re: What is the simplest way to cultivate Liberty Caps? [Re: Psilimax]
#28130617 - 01/08/23 11:45 AM (1 year, 21 days ago) |
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Can you send a link I can't find the threads of ppl getting fruits
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