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Itsjdavis
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Simple way to make pf jars warmer ( no electricity )
#23562846 - 08/21/16 12:08 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey there friends, so I'm doing a little personal grow in my closet. No heating pad or anything just 3 jars colonizing in a still air box in my closet. So it's been about 8 days and my jars are caking just very slowly. My apartments temp is always 70-80 degrees Fahrenheit. My friend whose doing a bigger grow out of town uses a heating pad and we started at the same time and same method some spore syringes ( he gave me a few of his ) and his jars are taking off. He says it's cause they're alittle warmer like 84 degrees I think. I'm just wondering if there is a way I can make my whole closet warmer or just the still air box, without using hot water cause I'm very paranoid about contamination. And this is my first time growing shrooms. If anyone knows something or has an idea let me know please. My girlfriend said wrap the box in a blanket but idk if thatd work at all. Thanks and have a great day guys
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morty422
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Re: Simple way to make pf jars warmer ( no electricity ) [Re: Itsjdavis]
#23562873 - 08/21/16 12:16 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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To be honest with you, I do not feel like added heat will help your operation become any more successful or productive.
I believe that most cultivators here will agree that room temperature in a normally lit area is just fine for colonizing jars.
The darkness won't hurt the mycelium (if stealth is your idea)-but feel free to toss those things on a shelf in the living room if you want to. There's no issues there.
Mycelium colonizing in darkness is an old school of thought. Light is beneficial to mycelium at all stages of cultivation.
If you are worried about contaminates, a cooler/lower temperature will help out with that as well!
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Re: Simple way to make pf jars warmer ( no electricity ) [Re: morty422]
#23562881 - 08/21/16 12:20 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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 65F is more appealing than anything over 75. 68-72 is perfect
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Itsjdavis
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Re: Simple way to make pf jars warmer ( no electricity ) [Re: morty422]
#23562889 - 08/21/16 12:23 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I would put them in my living room but I have a dog and he is never around my closet which is why I am doing a little grow in my closet because I just don't want dog hair or anything to float around the jars I don't mind if they take a little longer to colonize because it's in a cooler temperature I was just wondering if there are any methods of making them a little warmer And I leave my closet light on about most of the day until I go to sleep so that they do get some light because I've read that light can sometimes be beneficial, i'm not worried about hiding anything because my landlord is my sisters best friend and knows about the stuff I do. I don't mind if they just keep colonizing sort of slow I'm pretty patient but I'm new to the shroom growing so I'm always trying to learn something new Thank you for your response
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morty422
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Re: Simple way to make pf jars warmer ( no electricity ) [Re: Itsjdavis]
#23562917 - 08/21/16 12:37 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Itsjdavis said: I would put them in my living room but I have a dog and he is never around my closet which is why I am doing a little grow in my closet because I just don't want dog hair or anything to float around the jars I don't mind if they take a little longer to colonize because it's in a cooler temperature I was just wondering if there are any methods of making them a little warmer And I leave my closet light on about most of the day until I go to sleep so that they do get some light because I've read that light can sometimes be beneficial, i'm not worried about hiding anything because my landlord is my sisters best friend and knows about the stuff I do. I don't mind if they just keep colonizing sort of slow I'm pretty patient but I'm new to the shroom growing so I'm always trying to learn something new Thank you for your response
I see. Well, you are on the right track!
What is your plan from this point on with your jars? Do you have a chamber made yet for fruiting?
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Re: Simple way to make pf jars warmer ( no electricity ) [Re: morty422]
#23562969 - 08/21/16 12:57 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Getting them warmer will promote bacteria while very slightly decreasing colonization times. Not worth it.
The rule is that if you're comfy your mushies will be too. And get them out of the SAB. They need gas exchange. Just put them on a shelf and wait. The light is a good idea but make sure its in the 5000-6500K range. CFLs labeled "daylight" are the cheapest and easiest option for a small grow.
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Itsjdavis
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Re: Simple way to make pf jars warmer ( no electricity ) [Re: morty422]
#23563020 - 08/21/16 01:14 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ya I got a pretty well sized set of rubber maid tuper ware, when I birth these cakes I was gonna do them each in individual fruiting chambers I already made a few holes in them too and got my perlite. I'm pretty stoked cause my home town shrooms were always being sold then I moved and can't find any and believe me I look and ask around. I've grown 3 marijuana plants successfully, didn't harvest pounds or anything but my best plant got me alittle over an ounce. But growing shrooms is new to me even though I've been looking into it for years.
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Itsjdavis
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Re: Simple way to make pf jars warmer ( no electricity ) [Re: 36fuckin5]
#23563033 - 08/21/16 01:18 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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My box they're in has an opening on both sides, it's just covered on top and bottom basically with about 8inchs between the top of my jars and the top of the box, just for safety measures. Should I just take them out? There's ventilation for my ge holes to get some air I mainly just put them in there so no air flow hits them even though there's already no air flow in my closet for stuff to float around. Like I said just berry paranoid about contamination I'd rather play it safe and steady then rush and screw up my babies.
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morty422
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Re: Simple way to make pf jars warmer ( no electricity ) [Re: Itsjdavis]
#23563055 - 08/21/16 01:33 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sounds like fun.
A LOT of new cultivators screw up their grows something fierce by building fruiting chambers that do not allow for proper conditions.
*Fresh Air Exchange or FAE is by far the most important aspect of fruiting cubensis.*
You do not necessarily need 99% humidity in your chamber. You need high humidity at the mycelial surface. If you properly dunk your cakes and roll them in finely ground vermiculite, you will have this micro-climate that you seek due to moisture evaporating off the cakes surface. -When the verm looks dry, you rehydrate that 'casing layer' and then lightly fan the cakes. You are NOT giving the cakes FAE at this point, you are ridding the chamber of its humidity so that the evaporation process can start over again. Fanning anymore then just a second or two is going to have a negative effect. This constant fluctuation of humidity, evaporation and FAE will have your cakes fruiting in no time.
Another thing that new growers tend to rush and fall short of is consolidation times! Even when your jar is 100% colonized it is not ready. The teks say to wait until you see pins on the inside of the jars, this is a great rule of thumb! The less time your cakes are exposed to the outside world-the more time they have to dry out and become contaminated. You CAN dunk a pinning cake and you can roll the hell out of your pinning cake as well. Don't be scared. By allowing proper consolidation time for each case-you will increase your yield for sure.
Don't try to reinvent the SGFC, its design is full-proof and its results have been proven time and time again. Trying to deviate from the design of a properly made SGFC is just a risk situation that you don't deserve to put your hard work into. When you inevitably fail at providing good conditions and you post pictures of your chamber-you will catch an extreme amount of flack and facepalms for not following the procedures to the T. We're not just cocky or ignorant. We have simply just tried EVERYTHING at this point and have found these teks and procedures to be the best of the best.
This forum is literally the pinnacle of all mycological cultivation. The world's best mushroom cultivators are here to share their lessons for free. If you follow their advice, you will be rewarded with some amazing fruits. If you stray off the road, you'll inevitability reduce your yield and potency.
Sorry for the long winded post -but I'm feeling like it's my duty to save you from all of my mistakes. 
Happy Shrooming!
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Itsjdavis
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Re: Simple way to make pf jars warmer ( no electricity ) [Re: morty422]
#23563076 - 08/21/16 01:45 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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No thank you for your long thorough response as they say knowledge is power and I'm a noob to this so I truly appreciate all the help and advice I can get. And I've been anticipating growing shrooms for years now and seeing all the helpful people on this site really makes me even more stoked for this!
Im at about 50% colonized in two jars so I'll be posting more threads as my journey goes on Thank you again for the knowledge and advice!
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morty422
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Re: Simple way to make pf jars warmer ( no electricity ) [Re: Itsjdavis]
#23563090 - 08/21/16 01:51 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Itsjdavis said: No thank you for your long thorough response as they say knowledge is power and I'm a noob to this so I truly appreciate all the help and advice I can get. And I've been anticipating growing shrooms for years now and seeing all the helpful people on this site really makes me even more stoked for this!
Im at about 50% colonized in two jars so I'll be posting more threads as my journey goes on Thank you again for the knowledge and advice!
No problem! Now that you got your main question answered about the colonizing temperature-I would start a grow log! Post pictures and keep everyone informed! We all love watching grows from beginning to end. Loads of people will continue to check back on your log and give you feedback along the way. It's the perfect way to get real time help and feedback.
See you soon!
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Re: Simple way to make pf jars warmer ( no electricity ) [Re: Itsjdavis]
#23565292 - 08/22/16 08:21 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Itsjdavis said: My box they're in has an opening on both sides, it's just covered on top and bottom basically with about 8inchs between the top of my jars and the top of the box, just for safety measures. Should I just take them out? There's ventilation for my ge holes to get some air I mainly just put them in there so no air flow hits them even though there's already no air flow in my closet for stuff to float around. Like I said just berry paranoid about contamination I'd rather play it safe and steady then rush and screw up my babies.
Just put them in the closet, not in a box. Your filter will do all the work of keeping contams out. If it doesn't then you need to redo that till you get it right.
-------------------- Redd Foxx said: If you're offended I don't give a shit and don't come see me no more. Pat The Bunny said: A punk rock song won't ever change the world, but I can tell you about a couple that changed me. bodhisatta said: i recommend common sense and figuring it out. These are the TEKs I use. They're all as cheap and easy as possible, just like your mom.
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morty422
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Re: Simple way to make pf jars warmer ( no electricity ) [Re: 36fuckin5]
#23565448 - 08/22/16 09:32 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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36fuckin5 said:
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Itsjdavis said: My box they're in has an opening on both sides, it's just covered on top and bottom basically with about 8inchs between the top of my jars and the top of the box, just for safety measures. Should I just take them out? There's ventilation for my ge holes to get some air I mainly just put them in there so no air flow hits them even though there's already no air flow in my closet for stuff to float around. Like I said just berry paranoid about contamination I'd rather play it safe and steady then rush and screw up my babies.
Just put them in the closet, not in a box. Your filter will do all the work of keeping contams out. If it doesn't then you need to redo that till you get it right.
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