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Maximillion
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[Proof you can cook with Mushrooms] Original Topic : "Mushroom coloring after using a dehydrator"
#23562753 - 08/21/16 11:29 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I use a Presto dehydrator on the highest setting I think it's 165. Every time I dry my mushrooms the stems turn black. They are cracker dry and I can't tell a loss in potency, I was more or less just wondering if this is a normal thing to experience when using a dehydrator.
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Re: Mushroom coloring after using a dehydrator [Re: Maximillion]
#23562756 - 08/21/16 11:31 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yes it is, i use the lowest setting on mine (or sometimes even try to cold dry them) its still pretty quick.
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Re: Mushroom coloring after using a dehydrator [Re: KThunderland]
#23562814 - 08/21/16 11:53 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Awesome. Haha I'm glad I'm not the only one. If I still lived in the dessert I would probably cool dry them as well, but where I live now it's way to humid for cool drying to actually work. Ive tried it here before and just ended up with soggy oxidated mushrooms.
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Re: Mushroom coloring after using a dehydrator [Re: Maximillion]
#23562901 - 08/21/16 12:29 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Highest setting is fine and preferred. The faster they dry the better. What you are seeing is spores on the stipes. They turn smooth black color if picked after the spores have dropped.
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Re: Mushroom coloring after using a dehydrator [Re: Maximillion]
#23562928 - 08/21/16 12:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Most of my mushrooms have black on stems after dehydrating. If you search around and find other pictures here of dry weight gains-you will see the same. There's nothing wrong with your mushrooms.
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Re: Mushroom coloring after using a dehydrator [Re: morty422]
#23562955 - 08/21/16 12:51 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's either bruising or spores. If you don't like it, handle them more gently or pick them earlier. Doesn't affect anything but aesthetics though.
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Re: Mushroom coloring after using a dehydrator [Re: morty422]
#23563009 - 08/21/16 01:09 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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CosmoKramer said: Highest setting is fine and preferred. The faster they dry the better. What you are seeing is spores on the stipes. They turn smooth black color if picked after the spores have dropped.
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36fuckin5 said: It's either bruising or spores. If you don't like it, handle them more gently or pick them earlier. Doesn't affect anything but aesthetics though.
Although I'd like to agree with you, I don't believe this is accurate. These were picked before the spores had dropped, most of them still have their veils attached even. Now, that being said all of the stems turn black and the caps stay nice and golden. I am aware that when the basidiospores are released by the basidia they can color the entire mushroom in what ever color the spores are. I doubt that this is my case however, considering it occurred during the dehydration cycle and not during the fruiting process. Though it is still a feasible answer. Thank you. I do not believe there is anything ruined about my mushrooms, they still get the job done just right. The stems just turn black in the dehydrator. I can see bruising to be the cause of this though. That is much more likely than it being spores. Thank you again for you're help.Quote:
morty422 said: Most of my mushrooms have black on stems after dehydrating. If you search around and find other pictures here of dry weight gains-you will see the same. There's nothing wrong with your mushrooms.

I actually did a bit of research with "everyday dehydrating" as it turns out most white-stemmed mushrooms will turn black in the dehydrator. So, there's just a little piece of knowledge that I didn't find surfing the forums here.
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Re: Mushroom coloring after using a dehydrator [Re: Maximillion]
#23565278 - 08/22/16 08:14 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Maximillion said: I actually did a bit of research with "everyday dehydrating" as it turns out most white-stemmed mushrooms will turn black in the dehydrator.
That's not true. Mine don't ever turn black. You're mishandling them. Be easy with them.
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Re: Mushroom coloring after using a dehydrator [Re: 36fuckin5]
#23565623 - 08/22/16 11:02 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Who cares to handle them gently, since you're going to put them in the dehydrator and kill them ?!
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Re: Mushroom coloring after using a dehydrator [Re: Chk]
#23565634 - 08/22/16 11:06 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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.... Seriously? The dehydrator is the best way to preserve them, what are you on about exactly?
Furthermore, I've never ever seen black stems from dehydrating. You'd have to be doing something seriously wrong.
None of these turned black. Not a single one.
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Re: Mushroom coloring after using a dehydrator [Re: Inocuole]
#23565660 - 08/22/16 11:18 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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No, you got me wrong ! , i was saying something like: it's a living organism, and it's gonna be killed by the heat , why handling it gently?
i do dehydrate my shrooms at 70°c (max temp on my dehydrator), no problem with that.
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Re: Mushroom coloring after using a dehydrator [Re: Chk]
#23565670 - 08/22/16 11:21 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oh, well, you handle it gently because you don't want it to look ugly, so that you don't have to make a thread asking if the dehydrator is what made your mushrooms ugly. Not you, but you know what I mean.
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Re: Mushroom coloring after using a dehydrator [Re: Inocuole]
#23565684 - 08/22/16 11:24 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Oh, well, you handle it gently because you don't want it to look ugly, so that you don't have to make a thread asking if the dehydrator is what made your mushrooms ugly. Not you, but you know what I mean.
This. I like my mushies to look nice.
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Re: Mushroom coloring after using a dehydrator [Re: Inocuole]
#23565697 - 08/22/16 11:28 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: .... Seriously? The dehydrator is the best way to preserve them, what are you on about exactly?
Furthermore, I've never ever seen black stems from dehydrating. You'd have to be doing something seriously wrong.
None of these turned black. Not a single one.

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Re: Mushroom coloring after using a dehydrator [Re: Chk]
#23565722 - 08/22/16 11:39 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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These were the most 'ghetto air dried' mushies i've done using the top of an old computer monitor... no black stems.

170 might be to hot and the stems are being damaged?? although most people seem to use the highest setting. try a lower setting? I air dry with a large fan. they taste like feet anyway so use whatever method that doesnt make em ugly.
pictures would help too
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Re: Mushroom coloring after using a dehydrator [Re: mushboy]
#23565726 - 08/22/16 11:40 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's not the fucking heat. Don't try a lower setting, it will take longer to dry.
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Re: Mushroom coloring after using a dehydrator [Re: mushboy]
#23565730 - 08/22/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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170 is not too hot. Blackened stems is most probably bruising that he is talking about. Bruising occurs for some of my fruits while it's drying, still a little mushy, by by the time they dry if I handled them carefully with harvest the stems look fine.
I wanna see a picture of OPs fruits post dehydrator so we can tel him if it's bruising or spores or something completely different
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Re: Mushroom coloring after using a dehydrator [Re: Inocuole]
#23565735 - 08/22/16 11:43 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: It's not the fucking heat. Don't try a lower setting, it will take longer to dry.
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Re: Mushroom coloring after using a dehydrator [Re: Inocuole]
#23566440 - 08/22/16 04:05 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lol It's just bruising guys, I'm not nice to these mushrooms. I like the clean them with a soft bristled toothbrush before I dehydrate them. Thats what causes the black stems. On a lighter note, Happy sometime around my birthday to me!
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Re: Mushroom coloring after using a dehydrator [Re: Maximillion]
#23566835 - 08/22/16 06:07 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have the same dehydrator, and use the top setting (165 degrees F) always. The quicker you dry them (while staying under the degradation temp of psilocybin), the better.
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