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Are we made of star-dust?
    #23561863 - 08/21/16 12:39 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Believe it or not, I tried to carefully explain to my brother that we, being carbon based life forms, are actually made of star-dust and that almost every element on Earth was formed at the heart of a star. I also read some articles online about all energy essentially being Solar in nature, since it's roots can be traced back to solar energy... Googling some quick websites didn't do much justice to my side of the argument... So, I'm asking you well educated people of the Shroomery to help me convince my brother I'm not an argumentative retard. I know some very intelligent and credible people frequent this website. Hopefully, you guys can help me shine some light on this. I need some cold hard facts here, thanks guys.


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Re: Are we made of star-dust? [Re: PartoftheSource]
    #23561864 - 08/21/16 12:41 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

All energy is atomic in nature, not necessarily solar.


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Re: Are we made of star-dust? [Re: PartoftheSource]
    #23561884 - 08/21/16 12:49 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Believe it or not, I tried to carefully explain to my brother that we, being carbon based life forms, are actually made of star-dust and that almost every element on Earth was formed at the heart of a star. I also read some articles online about all energy essentially being Solar in nature, since it's roots can be traced back to solar energy... Googling some quick websites didn't do much justice to my side of the argument... So, I'm asking you well educated people of the Shroomery to help me convince my brother I'm not an argumentative retard. I know some very intelligent and credible people frequent this website. Hopefully, you guys can help me shine some light on this. I need some cold hard facts here, thanks guys.




Nucleosynthesis
Without massive exploding stars as forges there would not be the elements needed for life.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/physics/make-an-element.html

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Almost all of the elements in the universe originated in the high-pressure hearts of stars or during a star's violent death. But some elements are not "star stuff." Hydrogen and helium trace their lineage back to the big bang. Other elements, like francium and plutonium, are only produced in trace amounts by the decay of uranium—and by trace amounts, I mean that if you gathered all the naturally occurring plutonium in the world, you'd have roughly 0.05 grams of it.

So creating a brand new element requires loading an atom's nucleus with more protons. Stars create new elements in their cores by squeezing elements together in a process called nuclear fusion. First, stars fuse hydrogen atoms into helium. Helium atoms then fuse to create beryllium, and so on, until fusion in the star's core has created every element up to iron. Iron is the last element stars create in their cores, and a kiss of death for any star with the the mass to make it to this point. As astronomer Robert Kirshner of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics describes it, "Once a star has built an iron core, there is no way it can generate energy by fusion. The star, radiating energy at a prodigious rate, becomes like a teenager with a credit card. Using resources much faster than can be replenished, it is perched on the edge of disaster."

But the edge of disaster for these massive stars is the threshold of life for the rest of the periodic table. In a star's last second of life, its core compacts so tightly that it becomes as dense as an atomic nucleus. When no more matter can squeeze into the core, the star explodes with the energy of an octillion (1027) atomic bombs. In this violent explosion, more than half the elements on the periodic table are born. Intense heat from the explosion catalyzes nuclear reactions that were not possible in the core. Escaping elements are bombarded with neutrons, which split inside the nucleus into protons and electrons, generating new unique elements. Iron turns into gold, gold turns into lead, and so on until uranium, the heaviest naturally star-born element, is forged from the ashes.

This spectacular shower of life and death creates everything. Well, almost everything. There are another 27 elements on the periodic table after uranium that were not created by stars. Some elements are produced in trace amounts by the decay of other elements. But even the long radioactive decay chain is not enough to produce the ultra-heavy elements at the end of the periodic table. The periodic table would have ended altogether if scientists had not pushed the boundaries of natural physics and ventured deeper into the world of super heavy elements.




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Re: Are we made of star-dust? [Re: Eggtimer]
    #23561891 - 08/21/16 12:53 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Are you neil degrasse tyson?


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Re: Are we made of star-dust? [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23561893 - 08/21/16 12:54 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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All energy is atomic in nature, not necessarily solar.





Atomic energy - The energy that is released through a nuclear reaction or radioactive decay process. Of particular interest is the process known as fission, which occurs in a nuclear reactor and produces energy usually in the form of heat.

Stars owe their light to the energy released by nuclear fusion reactions at their cores.


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Re: Are we made of star-dust? [Re: PartoftheSource]
    #23561993 - 08/21/16 01:54 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

no we're made of fuck goo which is made of earth fuck with star fuck


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Re: Are we made of star-dust? [Re: Cosmic_Flame] * 1
    #23562041 - 08/21/16 02:50 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

we're the universe observing itself.


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Re: Are we made of star-dust? [Re: pirate-blues]
    #23562055 - 08/21/16 03:05 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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we're the universe observing itself.



watts bro :rockon:
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It's like you took a bottle of ink and you threw it at a wall. Smash! And all that ink spread. And in the middle, it's dense, isn't it? And as it gets out on the edge, the little droplets get finer and finer and make more complicated patterns, see? So in the same way, there was a big bang at the beginning of things and it spread. And you and I, sitting here in this room, as complicated human beings, are way, way out on the fringe of that bang. We are the complicated little patterns on the end of it. Very interesting. But so we define ourselves as being only that. If you think that you are only inside your skin, you define yourself as one very complicated little curlique, way out on the edge of that explosion. Way out in space, and way out in time. Billions of years ago, you were a big bang, but now you're a complicated human being. And then we cut ourselves off, and don't feel that we're still the big bang. But you are. Depends how you define yourself. You are actually--if this is the way things started, if there was a big bang in the beginning-- you're not something that's a result of the big bang. You're not something that is a sort of puppet on the end of the process. You are still the process. You are the big bang, the original force of the universe, coming on as whoever you are. When I meet you, I see not just what you define yourself as--Mr so-and- so, Ms so-and-so, Mrs so-and-so--I see every one of you as the primordial energy of the universe coming on at me in this particular way. I know I'm that, too. But we've learned to define ourselves as separate from it.

So the world doesn't come thinged; it doesn't come evented. You and I are all as much continuous with the physical universe as a wave is continuous with the ocean. The ocean waves, and the universe peoples. And as I wave and say to you 'Yoo-hoo!' the world is waving with me at you and saying 'Hi! I'm here!' But we are consciousness of the way we feel and sense our existence. Being based on a myth that we are made, that we are parts, that we are things, our consciousness has been influenced, so that each one of us does not feel that. We have been hypnotized, literally hypnotized by social convention into feeling and sensing that we exist only inside our skins. That we are not the original bang, just something out on the end of it. And therefore we are scared stiff. My wave is going to disappear, and I'm going to die! And that would be awful. We've got a mythology going now which is, as Father Maskell.?, put it, we are something that happens between the maternity ward and the crematorium. And that's it. And therefore everybody feels unhappy and miserable.

What happens is this: 'Stuff' is a word for the world as it looks when our eyes are out of focus. Fuzzy. Stuff--the idea of stuff is that it is undifferentiated, like some kind of goo. And when your eyes are not in sharp focus, everything looks fuzzy. When you get your eyes into focus, you see a form, you see a pattern. But when you want to change the level of magnification, and go in closer and closer and closer, you get fuzzy again before you get clear. So everytime you get fuzzy, you go through thinking there's some kind of stuff there. But when you get clear, you see a shape. So all that we can talk about is patterns. We never, never can talk about the 'stuff' of which these patterns are supposed to be made, because you don't really have to suppose that there is any. It's enough to talk about the world in terms of patterns. It describes anything that can be described, and you don't really have to suppose that there is some stuff that constitutes the essence of the pattern in the same way that clay constitutes the essence of pots. And so for this reason, you don't really have to suppose that the world is some kind of helpless, passive, unintelligent junk which an outside agency has to inform and make into intelligent shapes. So the picture of the world in the most sophisticated physics of today is not formed stuff--potted clay--but pattern. A self-moving, self-designing pattern. A dance. And our common sense as individuals hasn't yet caught up with this.




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Re: Are we made of star-dust? [Re: PartoftheSource]
    #23562266 - 08/21/16 07:18 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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So, I'm asking you well educated people of the Shroomery to help me convince my brother I'm not an argumentative retard.



Easy.  Stop fucking regurgitating shit you read online.  Nobody cares about what you read online.  Millennials, LOL.


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Re: Are we made of star-dust? [Re: California]
    #23562304 - 08/21/16 07:52 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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we're the universe observing itself.



But if we are the universe observing itself wouldn't the observation change the universe. :frightening:


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Re: Are we made of star-dust? [Re: California]
    #23562379 - 08/21/16 08:48 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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PartoftheSource said:
So, I'm asking you well educated people of the Shroomery to help me convince my brother I'm not an argumentative retard.



Easy.  Stop fucking regurgitating shit you read online.  Nobody cares about what you read online.  Millennials, LOL.




That doesn't make him any less wrong about us being made of star-dust. And since the internet is our best source of information, i think im gonna keep absorbing and regurgitating. thanks  :wink:


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Re: Are we made of star-dust? [Re: PartoftheSource]
    #23562396 - 08/21/16 08:55 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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That doesn't make him any less wrong about us being made of star-dust. And since the internet is our best source of information, i think im gonna keep absorbing and regurgitating. thanks  :wink:




The Bible is the only valid source of information

Repent Sinner

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Re: Are we made of star-dust? [Re: PartoftheSource]
    #23562414 - 08/21/16 09:04 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Yes. On the same note shit is also made of star dust  :poop:


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Re: Are we made of star-dust? [Re: Cosmic_Flame]
    #23562431 - 08/21/16 09:12 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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no we're made of fuck goo which is made of earth fuck with star fuck




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Re: Are we made of star-dust? [Re: PartoftheSource]
    #23562432 - 08/21/16 09:13 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Can I ask what your ulterior motive is in "proving" to your brother that we are celestial being made of heavenly fart dust?
I feel like it's going to be something stupid.


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Re: Are we made of star-dust? [Re: PartoftheSource]
    #23562487 - 08/21/16 09:43 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Visit MINDFUCK.COM for a better understanding.

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Re: Are we made of star-dust? [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23562507 - 08/21/16 09:51 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Yes. On the same note shit is also made of star dust  :poop:




lmao! fair enough.


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Re: Are we made of star-dust? [Re: PartoftheSource]
    #23562547 - 08/21/16 10:10 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

So, we're pokemon then?


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