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Re: Elizabeth Smart says porn made her captor rape her more [Re: koods]
    #23562515 - 08/21/16 09:55 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Frankly I don't know why this is even a story. This happened years ago. It's sad when a victim is so obsessive about their own victimhood.




Well I highly doubt the media makes it any easier for her. I wouldn't be surprised if she's still frequently contacted by a number of journalists/"researchers"/whatever and asked to relive that shit.


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Re: Elizabeth Smart says porn made her captor rape her more [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23562519 - 08/21/16 09:57 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Also I think some people are confusing this story with another one.

But don't underestimate how long 9 months can be when you're essentially imprisoned and being tortured on a daily basis.


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Re: Elizabeth Smart says porn made her captor rape her more [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23562524 - 08/21/16 10:00 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

THESE ARE THE REAL VICTIMS!!!

“We are in pain”
“I don’t deserve to feel afraid at my school”
“I legitimately feared for my life”
“Some of us were expecting shootings. We feared walking alone.”

http://www.newsweek.com/emory-trump-chalk-protests-440618


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Re: Elizabeth Smart says porn made her captor rape her more [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23562543 - 08/21/16 10:07 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

You still did not answer my question where did you get the 8 years from ? I thought of you as somewhat fair but its becoming clear you are bias...


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Re: Elizabeth Smart says porn made her captor rape her more [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23562545 - 08/21/16 10:09 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The thing about politicians is they try to "relate" to as many people as possible. Not as many people are victims of assault as have been concerned about being a victim of assault.


Fear runs too strong in our culture. And I blame the media more than I blame the poor ignorant children that grew up on it.


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Re: Elizabeth Smart says porn made her captor rape her more [Re: Kinko] * 1
    #23562554 - 08/21/16 10:14 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Yea look at wikipedia she was only abducted for 9 months and was rescued by the police.... Makes me wonder where u get the 8 year and escape from.. I respected you pris I thought you were. Smart guy but you let me down... Big time.





I confused a couple of others with this one

do you think that being 9 months is any less horrific than being 8 years when you've been kidnapped and raped repeatedly, sometimes multiple times per day?


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Re: Elizabeth Smart says porn made her captor rape her more [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23562559 - 08/21/16 10:17 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

9 months is still horrible but no where near as horrible as 8 years.  Facts are important here man.


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Re: Elizabeth Smart says porn made her captor rape her more [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23562586 - 08/21/16 10:29 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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The thing about politicians is they try to "relate" to as many people as possible. Not as many people are victims of assault as have been concerned about being a victim of assault.




it's not politicians that are pushing this victimhood bullshit, it's the ones that
so desperately want to be victims that are doing it, they are traumatized by the
micro aggression of hearing a 'no' and they've suddenly become victims of racism,
sexism or even being raped. the retarded actions of these pansies marginalize the
people that actually are experiencing real victimization

it's one thing to feel you could be a victim of assault, it can be a legitimate
fear but there needs to be some foundation behind it, not simply seeing a name for
an overblown retard scrawled on a sidewalk. it's something entirely different to
file rape charges because someone didnt want to have sex with you or to claim you
now have to have counseling and people should be arrested because they read a word
written in chalk


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Fear runs too strong in our culture. And I blame the media more than I blame the poor ignorant children that grew up on it.





it's fear mongering that runs strong in our country, from this promotional by
elizabeth smart to the constant victimization claims of these college students,
BLM advocates and especially the media pushing this horse shit, teaching them this
new way of life but dont think for an instant that this originated with the media,
it was birth from the social justice "worriers" and the politicians with the media
helping to speed things along


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Re: Elizabeth Smart says porn made her captor rape her more [Re: Kinko] * 1
    #23562589 - 08/21/16 10:32 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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9 months is still horrible but no where near as horrible as 8 years.  Facts are important here man.





the fact of the matter is you havent been held captive and raped for 8 months or 8
years so you couldnt possibly imagine how horrific it is for any duration


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Re: Elizabeth Smart says porn made her captor rape her more [Re: Kinko]
    #23562591 - 08/21/16 10:32 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

That I think is debatable. I think after a certain point you'd become... numb to it, to a certain extent. You'd accept it for the life you are given.


I mean the people that take the hardest hits are used to being hit. I think tragedy on a personal level is very subjective and we need to understand that we will never truly know what it was like. They are different cases. I don't think you could generalize captivity and rape/abuse. Every case is different. You cannot measure these things by time alone, and you sure as fuck can't say when someone should probably have gotten over something like that.


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Re: Elizabeth Smart says porn made her captor rape her more [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23562606 - 08/21/16 10:37 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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You cannot measure these things by time alone, and you sure as fuck can't say when someone should probably have gotten over something like that.




koods says otherwise

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Frankly I don't know why this is even a story. This happened years ago. It's sad when a victim is so obsessive about their own victimhood.




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Re: Elizabeth Smart says porn made her captor rape her more [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23562611 - 08/21/16 10:39 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I wonder if we ask Elizabeth who she would agree with ? I would bet my left nut  she would agree with me and that is the point here... Move on you are wrong and I am correct in this case.


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Re: Elizabeth Smart says porn made her captor rape her more [Re: Kinko]
    #23562654 - 08/21/16 10:52 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I wonder if we ask Elizabeth who she would agree with ? I would bet my left nut  she would agree with me and that is the point here... Move on you are wrong and I am correct in this case.





you need to give your wager to a neutral party, I suggest sending it to koods


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Re: Elizabeth Smart says porn made her captor rape her more [Re: Kinko]
    #23562698 - 08/21/16 11:09 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Oh no I agree. Anyone in the situation would want it over as soon as possible. But my point was the first few months have to be the worst. Though the more it goes on the more hope you lose. I don't know, there's lots of factors that separate 9 months from 8 years. There's lots of factors that separate 2 weeks from 9 months.


I don't think we will see eye to eye on this, I just want to keep the last point on my previous post...


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Re: Elizabeth Smart says porn made her captor rape her more [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23562922 - 08/21/16 12:38 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Kinko said:
9 months is still horrible but no where near as horrible as 8 years.  Facts are important here man.





the fact of the matter is you havent been held captive and raped for 8 months or 8
years so you couldnt possibly imagine how horrific it is for any duration



8 years is 10.66666667 times worse than 9 months.


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Re: Elizabeth Smart says porn made her captor rape her more [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23563102 - 08/21/16 02:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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she was kidnapped in 2002 and escaped in 2010, it's pretty well known by anyone
that isnt trying to trivialize real victimization with this liberal nonsense
of "I imagined donald trump naked and now I'm one of his rape victims" shit






Wait, what? :lol:


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Re: Elizabeth Smart says porn made her captor rape her more [Re: koods]
    #23563118 - 08/21/16 02:08 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Frankly I don't know why this is even a story. This happened years ago. It's sad when a victim is so obsessive about their own victimhood.




In all fairness she did spend most of her life trapped in victimhood, so she will probably spend another few years wallowing in it before finally gathering inner strength to move on.



Huh? I thought she was missing for a few months




Ah okay, I was confusing this case with another one where a little girl was abducted and spent like close to a decade living in some pedo's backyard.

Still, 9 months is a damn long time. Especially if you are trapped in some guy's basement with no entertainment or anything, a single month would last foreverrrrrrrrrrrr.


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Re: Elizabeth Smart says porn made her captor rape her more [Re: Crystal G]
    #23563180 - 08/21/16 02:49 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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if you are trapped in some guy's basement with no entertainment or anything, a single month would last foreverrrrrrrrrrrr.




Obviously you missed like 95% of the story.  She was repeatedly raped.


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Re: Elizabeth Smart says porn made her captor rape her more [Re: abltsandwich]
    #23563183 - 08/21/16 02:50 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

:facepalm:


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Re: Elizabeth Smart says porn made her captor rape her more [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23563184 - 08/21/16 02:51 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

God this thread is so many kinds of fucked up. Nevermind, forget I was here. I only fucked it up more.


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