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I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever
    #23561533 - 08/20/16 10:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Its fucking insane to me that Christians actually believe that God has a "plan" even while their saint of a wife lays dying in agony and misery in some forsaken hospital in bumfuck nowhere. Honestly realizing God is a lie made things easier for me in a lot of ways. If none of it matters and nobody is in the lighthouse than its just random animalistic instincts with a dash of horrific intelligence.

I think this is SOOOOO much better. Who would literally PRAISE a god who purposely shits on them on a daily basis just to show them what it means to suffer? Sounds like one of those sick BDSM dungeon things


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Re: I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever [Re: bloodsheen] * 11
    #23561568 - 08/20/16 10:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever [Re: propensity] * 3
    #23561582 - 08/20/16 10:27 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah he must be underage, only kids dont believe in a higher power. Kids these days. :cookiemonster:


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Re: I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever [Re: Nitrous Monkey] * 3
    #23561589 - 08/20/16 10:29 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever [Re: Nitrous Monkey]
    #23561594 - 08/20/16 10:31 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah he must be underage, only kids dont believe in a higher power. Kids these days. :cookiemonster:



Also I've been a member for 8 fucking years


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Re: I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever [Re: bloodsheen] * 3
    #23561598 - 08/20/16 10:33 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Its fucking insane to me that Christians actually believe that God has a "plan" even while their saint of a wife lays dying in agony and misery in some forsaken hospital in bumfuck nowhere. Honestly realizing God is a lie made things easier for me in a lot of ways. If none of it matters and nobody is in the lighthouse than its just random animalistic instincts with a dash of horrific intelligence.

I think this is SOOOOO much better. Who would literally PRAISE a god who purposely shits on them on a daily basis just to show them what it means to suffer? Sounds like one of those sick BDSM dungeon things



You do us all a solid and PM this to JustForToday, LOL.


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Re: I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever [Re: California]
    #23563463 - 08/21/16 04:53 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

you could always blame it on eve. 

Look up the theory of irreducible complexity


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Re: I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever [Re: Kenetic] * 1
    #23563507 - 08/21/16 05:07 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I think asserting the absence of God is naive as it limits ones ability to find what God is to them in the abstract.


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Re: I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever [Re: bloodsheen]
    #23563519 - 08/21/16 05:10 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

You know you're really harshin my mellow rit now.


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Re: I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever [Re: Love_spirit] * 1
    #23563574 - 08/21/16 05:29 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

bitch don't kill my vibe lol


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Re: I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever [Re: bloodsheen]
    #23563577 - 08/21/16 05:30 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

That is a very narrow way of looking at this question

Personally I don't think it matters what is better or worse for us
Reality is what it is, whether Allah is up there with his whip or otherwise


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Re: I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever [Re: bloodsheen]
    #23563719 - 08/21/16 06:22 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The problem here is most people have a hard time grasping what I call, "the balance of all things".


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Re: I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever [Re: PartoftheSource]
    #23563814 - 08/21/16 06:53 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

All I know is I look around and I see how complex everything is.  There is a food chain.  A natural cycle to everything, and everything depends on something and becomes food for something else that eventually starts the cycle all over. 

It' hard for me to believe everything came from a microscopic point that exploded and magically arranged itself to form delicate life in one spot in the entire universe. 

Something greater is going on.


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Re: I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever [Re: Kenetic]
    #23564285 - 08/21/16 09:22 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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All I know is I look around and I see how complex everything is.  There is a food chain.  A natural cycle to everything, and everything depends on something and becomes food for something else that eventually starts the cycle all over. 

It' hard for me to believe everything came from a microscopic point that exploded and magically arranged itself to form delicate life in one spot in the entire universe. 

Something greater is going on.



Yea, its called the beauty of the universe. Inventing God to make the universe fit into our retarded brains is fucking lazy and ignorant. If you get deep enough into science there is magic and beauty everywhere. Some asshole behind a curtain would ruin everything


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Re: I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever [Re: bloodsheen]
    #23564440 - 08/21/16 10:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Sounds like you're in the "Jehovah is a psychopath" camp. You wouldn't be the first to lose his faith in this manner.


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Re: I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever [Re: Great Scott]
    #23564480 - 08/21/16 10:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Sounds like you're in the "Jehovah is a psychopath" camp. You wouldn't be the first to lose his faith in this manner.



I've lost my faith from every point of view possible. God just isn't real. Science, people, politics, humanity, morality... it all points to the lies. However, as a very young man the "psychopath" camp is well-described as the beginning of the end for me


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Re: I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever [Re: bloodsheen] * 1
    #23564485 - 08/21/16 10:43 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever [Re: bloodsheen] * 1
    #23564490 - 08/21/16 10:43 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Cool. Just remember when you're in a really really dark place someday, you're gonna cry out for something. You're gonna wish you had a shepherd. A guiding light. Something. Anything. And there's only one true source for this, along with a counterfeit.


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Re: I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever [Re: bloodsheen]
    #23564497 - 08/21/16 10:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

God is everywhere, understanding comes with Omnipresence bud.


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Re: I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever [Re: bloodsheen]
    #23564507 - 08/21/16 10:50 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

To be a teenager...


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Re: I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever [Re: 1234go]
    #23564551 - 08/21/16 11:15 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

You know, I only made this thread because a friend of mine just lost God and I've been helping him through it. Considering like 90% of the world or more is religious its really pathetic that you guys think religion is for children. Now I remember why I don't specifically hang out with atheists, fucking assholes


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Re: I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever [Re: bloodsheen]
    #23564579 - 08/21/16 11:28 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Why don't you stop the charade and just be honest with yourself?

Youre clearly conflicted, and the conflict appears to be bothering you quite a bit.
Take time to discover what God means to you.

It sounds corny but if you listen to yourself and not the doctrine of others you will see.


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Re: I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever [Re: ModestMouse]
    #23564584 - 08/21/16 11:31 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Why don't you stop the charade and just be honest with yourself?

Your clearly conflicted, and the conflict appears to be bothering you quite a bit.
Take time to discover what God means to you.

It sounds corny but if you listen to yourself and not the doctrine of others you will see.



Hahaha, oh man, what a conversation. Half the thread thinks I'm 15 and the other half think they could save me. Please, moderators, for the love of all that is holy, close this thread


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Re: I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever [Re: bloodsheen]
    #23564587 - 08/21/16 11:32 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

And now you're embarrassed?
Quit being juvenile and level with us.


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Re: I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever [Re: ModestMouse]
    #23564602 - 08/21/16 11:37 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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And now you're embarrassed?
Quit being juvenile and level with us.



AHAHAHAHAHAHA OMG your sig is Ray from TPB and you're the one defending religion?! That just dawned on me, thank you for making my night


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Re: I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever [Re: bloodsheen]
    #23564605 - 08/21/16 11:38 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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And now you're embarrassed?
Quit being juvenile and level with us.



AHAHAHAHAHAHA OMG your sig is Ray from TPB and you're the one defending religion?! That just dawned on me, thank you for making my night




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Re: I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever [Re: bloodsheen]
    #23564645 - 08/21/16 11:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

God is just the energy behind all energies, nothing more nothing less


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Re: I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23564659 - 08/21/16 11:58 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I see the correlation between me thinking Ray is fucking hilarious, and believing in a higher power but it's not intentional.

I think your image of "God" is tarnished by what others have told you is "God".
You don't seem to be capable of actual intelligent conversation so I'll stop there.



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God is just the energy behind all energies, nothing more nothing less



Im actually more than OK with this definition. I created my own definition of a "holy spirit" and it has similarities to this


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Re: I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23564661 - 08/21/16 11:59 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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    #23564674 - 08/22/16 12:01 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever [Re: Great Scott] * 1
    #23564749 - 08/22/16 12:42 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The theologians seem to have recognized a special, nonrational-(-i wouldn't call it irrational-)- aspect of the feeling of sacred or holy. They call it "numinous". The term was first used by Rudolf Otto in a 1923 book, "the idea of the holy". He believed that humans were predisposed to detect and revere the numinous. He called it the "misterium tremendum". Even my latin is good enough for that.

"In the presence of the misterium tremendum, people feel utterly insignificant but, not personally alienated. He thought of the numinous as a thing "wholly other" and the human response to it as "absolute astonishment".

Now, if that's what religious people talk about when they use words like sacred or holy, I am with them. I felt something like that from just looking up on a clear night. My opinion actually is that all of science elicits that sense of awe.  "

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Re: I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever [Re: Deathbystarfish]
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Re: I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever [Re: Eggtimer]
    #23565031 - 08/22/16 04:28 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The fallacy is assuming that a "god" would give a fuck.


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Re: I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever [Re: bloodsheen] * 3
    #23565192 - 08/22/16 07:17 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Honestly realizing God is a lie made things easier for me in a lot of ways.




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its really pathetic that you guys think religion is for children. Now I remember why I don't specifically hang out with atheists, fucking assholes




So where do you stand?


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Re: I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever [Re: 1234go]
    #23565323 - 08/22/16 08:41 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I hate people who cant accept each others religious beliefs or lack there of, its sad really that so many people cant just form personal conclusions about spirituality/religion and keep it to themselves in a way that leaves them truly fulfilled.

Thats really what spirituality/religion are supposed to be about, personal truth and fulfillment.


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Re: I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23565567 - 08/22/16 10:38 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I hate people who cant accept each others religious beliefs or lack there of, its sad really that so many people cant just form personal conclusions about spirituality/religion and keep it to themselves in a way that leaves them truly fulfilled.

Thats really what spirituality/religion are supposed to be about, personal truth and fulfillment.




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Re: I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever [Re: bloodsheen]
    #23565586 - 08/22/16 10:49 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Science is increasingly supporting the idea that reality may be a simulation or virtual reality of some sort. If this is a video game there must be a coder / game designer.

But that is a totally different thing then the judgmental jealous cruel God of the Old Testament and Quran.

I understand God as the universal dreamer and reality As the dream of God.

I understand God as the universal mind and soul of which all of us are facets and aspects .

The creator, sustainer and transformer from whom we all come , in whom we all abide and to whom we all return.

Not so much a personality that plans every thing that happens to us, but the universal field of intelligence and consciousness that accounts for the mathematics and geometry that underlies all creation .

I believe as an eternally self existent singular thing, God divided himself infinitely and incarnated endlessly within his own creation to know and experience and most of all Entertain himself through eternity.

It's all a fractal simulation, a virtual reality holographic dream .

Pan psychism- all is mind.

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    #23565593 - 08/22/16 10:52 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Science is increasingly supporting the idea that reality may be a simulation or virtual reality of some sort.





Haha no it isn't you pseudospiritual shaman wannabe


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    #23565602 - 08/22/16 10:56 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Nah man he knows what he's talking about.

basically epitomized it for the most part.


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    #23565609 - 08/22/16 10:58 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

You don't even know what "epitomized" means, pub pseudospiritualist.


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    #23565631 - 08/22/16 11:05 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The answer to life is really simple and not so complex the answer has been hiding in plain site all along.        Humans can have a wide range of experiences but never get to experience being dead.      When you die on this plain of existence you immediately go to a parallel universe almost identical to our own , you keep on living life just like before , death is nothing but a near death experience..    Every time you have a near death experience you die and are summoned in another universe or world.      There are millions of copies of yourself all thought universe ....    I know I have died at least once when someone abruptly switched lanes and got on my lane so to avoid them I turned and drove on the grass going 93 mph , I hit the breaks the car turned sideways and I slid for a good 300-400 yards before coming to a stop without a scratch on me or the car... Hhhaa yea right asshole I know I died that day... But not really since there are millions of copies of me ready to tune into my consciousness as soon as I pass..... This is really all common sense


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Re: I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever [Re: something super extreme]
    #23565633 - 08/22/16 11:06 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

he made the perfect example. Lose the salt


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    #23565637 - 08/22/16 11:08 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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he made the perfect example. Lose the salt





Perfect example of what? Pubshaman 101?
Yes, he's known for that.


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    #23565867 - 08/22/16 12:26 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Wow no wonder atheists hate Christians.


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    #23565896 - 08/22/16 12:36 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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The I AM THAT I AM





And its actually, " I is what I is"


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    #23565899 - 08/22/16 12:36 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Wow no wonder atheists hate Christians.





Sheesh way to generalize. I'm an atheist, I don't hate Christians.


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    #23566005 - 08/22/16 01:22 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Seriously though the simulation theory in science has gained enormous traction in recent years and the evidence is building in support of it. In itself it has nothing to do with spirituality, it's an ontological model in science and it's even been mathematically demonstrated that it is more probable that we are In a simulation reality than not.

If anyone wasn't aware of the increasing scientific support for simulation theory, you simply haven't been keeping up to date on the scientific news .

I encourage anyone with interest to google it and read up, fascinating stuff.


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    #23566012 - 08/22/16 01:28 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Honestly realizing God is a lie made things easier for me in a lot of ways.




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its really pathetic that you guys think religion is for children. Now I remember why I don't specifically hang out with atheists, fucking assholes




So where do you stand?



I think he can stand for both, those aren't contradictory. It's made life a lot easier on who I am,not being involved in Christianity. But also I think it's despicable that atheists preach to religious to try and make them feel stupid for having a religious belief . We should all be entitled one


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    #23566019 - 08/22/16 01:31 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Also it's not "religion" that holds people back. It's the archaic rules of sex,drugs,money,marriage,abortion and more.All coming from. The organization and practice of organized religion that holds a lot of people back.


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    #23566021 - 08/22/16 01:32 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

They're afraid of the power of Jesus Christ. What's in a name? Everything.


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Re: I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #23566277 - 08/22/16 03:09 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Also it's not "religion" that holds people back. It's the archaic rules of sex,drugs,money,marriage,abortion and more.All coming from. The organization and practice of organized religion that holds a lot of people back.


But even then they deserve to believe whatever they want.




So it's not religion that's hold people back, just what the religion teaches is? :lol:

I too think, that as free thinking entities everyone has the right to believe what they choose, but I also think that there are lots of things, including organized religion, which only serve to distract people from genuinely important things in life. This ultimately slows down the progression of our species as a whole.

But, since most people are going to believe what they want to, disregarding logic and science, I tend not to spend energy on trying to change the beliefs of people very often.
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Re: I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23566292 - 08/22/16 03:15 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Seriously though the simulation theory in science has gained enormous traction in recent years and the evidence is building in support of it. In itself it has nothing to do with spirituality, it's an ontological model in science and it's even been mathematically demonstrated that it is more probable that we are In a simulation reality than not.

If anyone wasn't aware of the increasing scientific support for simulation theory, you simply haven't been keeping up to date on the scientific news .

I encourage anyone with interest to google it and read up, fascinating stuff.




Would you mind citing a study or article showing it's "been mathematically demonstrated that it is more probable that we are In a simulation reality than not", because after some brief searching, I cannot find anything conclusive. Also, i have not heard much about this theory gaining traction in recent years, the newest study I could find was 2012, and before that, 2003.


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    #23566357 - 08/22/16 03:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I am on my phone at work with a broken screen, so not at the moment, but when I get a chance I can post some of the sources I am referencing .

When you follow the mathematical argument it's very simple to understand why the possibility we are in a simulation is far more logical and likely than the possibility we are not.

There are actually several different avenues of research, logic and science pointing in this direction.

I'll compile it into its own thread and link to it here ASAP :thumbup:


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    #23566363 - 08/22/16 03:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

aka I can't because I like to make up heady bullshit like the pseudospiritual lunatic that i am


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    #23566394 - 08/22/16 03:50 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

i'm a neoplatonist. i worship the holy number 1 as it floats in abstracted darkness.


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Honestly realizing God is a lie made things easier for me in a lot of ways.




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its really pathetic that you guys think religion is for children. Now I remember why I don't specifically hang out with atheists, fucking assholes




So where do you stand?



I think he can stand for both, those aren't contradictory. It's made life a lot easier on who I am,not being involved in Christianity. But also I think it's despicable that atheists preach to religious to try and make them feel stupid for having a religious belief . We should all be entitled one



This

I do not ever shove the stuff I'm discussing here in a Christian's face. Its disrespectful, I mean for fucks sake pretty sure most of them (the ones with two brain cells to rub together anyway) are well aware how religion looks on the outside. Deriding them just for like entertainment or something is pointless and kinda sadistic


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Re: I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23566851 - 08/22/16 06:13 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I am on my phone at work with a broken screen, so not at the moment, but when I get a chance I can post some of the sources I am referencing .

When you follow the mathematical argument it's very simple to understand why the possibility we are in a simulation is far more logical and likely than the possibility we are not.

There are actually several different avenues of research, logic and science pointing in this direction.

I'll compile it into its own thread and link to it here ASAP :thumbup:



It's a semantic argument really. Simulation means that it is an imitation of real-world process. There is no point in arguing whether it's a simulation or not, it comes down to the question of whether we are contained inside another plane of reality or not.

If the argument is whether or not the universe can be broken down into a binary code or not, that doesn't prove that it's a simulation either. That the universe might be crafted from mathematics and code doesn't prove that there is a concentrated effort of someone/something doing the coding for it. It may just be the product of chance as well.

But I'm interested to see what you have just to get an idea of the argument at hand. I think it's off base to say that through the scientific process, people may have proven the existence of a simulated reality - because that kind of claim takes the same amount of faith as any religious connotations without any evidence that someone has done the coding for it in an attempt to simulate a reality.

I'm personally of the belief that this is a kind of simulation, but there is no evidence of such beyond the findings of some thinkers that have possibly drawn a much bigger conclusion than their research actually proves.


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    #23567214 - 08/22/16 08:05 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I was a hardcore christian before my first ego death where I realized that when we die, that's it. End of the line, no paradise, no hell. Only pure nothingness.

Even when I was christian I had my doubts, how can god kill millions of people in the holocaust, how can he allow crusades and jihads to happen, how can he let his worshippers blow themselves up in his name? Thats because he's not here. He never was, and never will be.

Then I thought some more and came to the realization that organized religion is a method of controlling the poor and uneducated first, then indoctrinating the young children so it becomes a part of their lives even when they grow old, and then they indoctrinate their OWN children and on and on the cycle goes.

Abrahamic faiths uses the "Stick and the Carrot" method, thats why they (the catholic church or whoever else) made up hell and heaven, they needed something to threaten them by if they don't believe in it, and something to promise them if they do. Islam took it one step further with praying five times a day and repeating his name hundreds of times everyday, enforcing the indoctrination on a believer's mind. An ex-muslim friend of mine once told me that their sheikhs tell them not to doubt, think or even ask questions about his existence, they told him that if he does that he would burn in hell for eternity as an apostate. What a loving being god is.

If god truly exists and is good, then he would love all of his creations equally, whether they were LGBT, women or even non believers.

But that's not what's written in the bible, in fact, if you study the book from page to page and undertsanding it without reading blindly, then you would realize that it has many contradictions and can't possibly be written by an omnipotent perfect entity. I suspect most believers here don't bother reading the bible, or understanding it.

People who still believe always tell me that my "soul is distressed" and that I need to find god again, but in reality I've never felg so peacefull in life. Back when I was a christian I was in constant fear of going to hell, and when I had my moments of doubt I'd panic thinking that this is the final straw that sends me to the eternal firey pits of doom. But when I had my eye opening experience I found extreme comfort, now I know where I am going to end up when I die; no where.

Religious people nowadays try hard to justify and 'prove' that their god (out of 4000 other gods) is the one true god with complex explanations that take many steps and loops to explain, and still thats not enough.

If you apply occam's razor, you would realize that the big bang theory and evolution take less steps to explain and that it has absolutely no loops whatsoever, and since they both take less steps to explain than gawd you would side with the former.

Most people fall back on the "god works in mysterious ways" argument at this point, a logical loop. But hear me out on this, god DOESN'T work in mysterious ways, he works in ways that are indistinguishable from his non existense.


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Re: I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever [Re: Hash_is_life]
    #23567241 - 08/22/16 08:11 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

You also have the phenomenon of cognitive dissonance. More often than not christians, jews and muslims will deny simple explanations like the big bang and evolution in favor if the more insane explanations like "god made it all". And how did he create the universe? "He willed it and POOF da universe is created!" It's like god somehow pulled the universe from a hat like he was performing magic tricks to impress his crush.


Cognitive dissonance can be a type of glue that keeps some religious adherents "in the fold," so to speak, when their interaction with competing belief systems of scientific understanding would otherwise undermine their faith in a particular dogma.

Of course this wouldn't normally apply to atheists because there is no competing belief systems that they have to contend with...which is the definition of this term. Despite the rhetoric from religious advocates who like to set up a strawman argument of the "hostile" and "fundamentalist atheist" (that hates god, and yet has a "belief system" of their own), the reality is most people that identify as atheist do not have firmly held "faith" in their atheism. It really is a simple matter of not believing in something that doesn't have any apparent proof. It is the default position for those that are uninterested in religion or have not been indoctrinated into a particular faith (or have deprogrammed themselves from one). For example, I would have no problem believing in a god if I saw evidence of it. I simply do not. And there is no cognitive dissonance involved in this position.

I'd suspect the level of cognitive dissonance will vary within the religious population. For example, perhaps a majority of religious adherents in the middle of the bell curve have less cognitive dissonance than those on the sides - who follow less traditional or classic tenets of an origanized religion. The latter group may not accept the more literal aspects of their religion and are more open to non-religious understanding of existence (e.g. most of the natural and applied sciences) but they may have further to go to reconcile these competing beliefs. Those found in the mid-bell curve might simply reject - outright - all kinds of accepted scientific truths or explanations of natural phenomenon. So, there is little cognitive dissonance for them. I think this term inherently means that an individual has to accept some fact/knowledge and some level, and yet ignore the full context where it clashes with other belief systems or compartmentalizes them. How adherents reconcile these competing belief system will vary. Then again, if we are looking at a bell curve of a reglious population the extreme outliers may be all over the charts with their levels of cognitive dissonance. They might be so extreme that they need astounding levels of cognitive dissonance to still consider themselves part of the religion, or others might have such an esoteric or unique version that they are hardly part of the recognized religious community and they are content to do their own thing with no apparent internal psychological conflict. I suppose the level of cognitive dissonance could run the whole gambit and would depend on a lot factors.

But, here is a straight foward example: classic Young Earth Creationism. This has been utterly demolished by just about every natural science discipline out there. So, ignore these damning implications requires either a "doubling down" and digging in your heals in a form of spiritual Ludditism....or, creating a stop-gap measure like that of "Intelligent Design." This latter approach is a recalibration or re-entrenchment, whereby the broad principles of the religions (e.g. that the world was still created by God) are left intact, while at the same time there is an acknowledgement that the Biblical description is more allegorical or "beyond our comprehension." This re-formatted belief system still requires a deity to create matter, He put in place all of these laws of the universe, this is part of His plan/design, etc.

If I had to point to one of the most extreme displays of cognitive dissonance and the power of self-delusion and adherence to a dogma it would have to be Mormonism and the Book of Abraham.

This entire religion is predicated upon the word of one person that claims to have been visited by angels and translated magical texts from an ancient Semitic population that settled in the Americas and had knowledge of Jesus! Conveniently, the original texts Joseph Smith "translated" were taken by angels (conveniently) and none of the original texts exist for comparison or study. But, after he had "translated" and published the Book of Mormon and developed a bit of a following he got a bit over-confident. He bought some papyrus scrolls from a traveling oddities show which happened to contained Egyptian funerary texts. He immediate proclaimed them to be a description of Abraham's life, the nature of god, pre-mortal existence, creation, etc. Convenient! Of course at that time, the field of ancient Egyptian linguistics was not all that advanced. Unfortunately for Smith, experts were steadily working on decyphering the heiroglypics system and eventually the texts could be read with complete accuracy. Smith had the Book of Abraham cannonized as part of Mormon dogma and a literalist belief in this "translation" was accepted by adherents of this religion. Unlike the so-called Golden Plates that magically dissappeared and could not be studied, some of original Book of Abraham papyri did survive. They initially were passed to Smith's mother, then his ex-wife. She then sold them to a private collector...and after changing hands a few more times, some of the texts ended up in the Museum of Chicago.

After the 1871 Chicago fire damaged the museum it was assumed that all of these texts had been lost. However, in 1966 fragments of the papyri were found in the New York Museum of Metropolitan Art (some texts having been kept in private hands and eventually sold to the MMA) and could be then be compare with the Book of Abraham translation and the printed fascimiles. The bottom line is the Book of Abraham is a complete fabrication and it can be rather easily demonstrated as such. But, the level of apologetics is astounding. And the cognitive dissonance is overwhelming. Adherents would rather dismiss overwhelming evidence or accept the most convoluted rationalisations than to admit the truth that this religion was made up whole-cloth by a charlatan. The other aspect that exacerbates cognitive dissonance is our demand of using kid-gloves when it comes to religious belief...as if it is of such a sacred nature that it is outside the bounds of rigorous debate. Often, simply stating aspects of a religion are bogus or contrived is seen as rude. So, even in the case where a relatively new cult can be debunked definitievely, it is see as impolite to point out these facts. Thus we get to the negative aspect of religions: that there is a willful ignorance of facts and any evidence that would discredit the belief system itself. 

However, I don't think extreme cognitive dissonance is a requirement in all religions. Human cultures have always had religious beliefs and they reflect the need to understand reality and make sense of the world. The more scientific knowledge expands our understanding the more religions may shift internally. The Intelligent Design belief which started off with its root in cognitive dissonance (e.g. former literalists looking to make sense out of a body or knowledge that conflicted with the earlier dogma) will eventually evolve into a more moderate strain of belief, which may well become a new religious norm. All religions shift and evolve. Perhpas a less vengeful, less anthropomorphic concept of god may emerge...that will look nothing like the god of the Puritans of the ancient Hebrews. However, while it can get expressed in more esoteric and vague terms, we can also see the rise of more extremist dogma that delves into deeper pools of cognitive dissonance. This is especially apparent when there are fundamental flaws built into the tenets of a particular religions which cannot adapt to modern science and/or societal shifts.

Actually, this phenomenon can be found outside of the realm of religion. A spouse that stays with an abusive partner can often display a level of cognitive dissonance. Particularly, in cases where there is abuse of the children, a spouse often intuitively "knows" it but chooses to ignore the signs and willfully donwplays the facts.

In other words, this is a human trait. But, I think religious dogma probably just exacerbates this phenomenon.


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    #23567383 - 08/22/16 08:56 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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No one's going to read your 4 page essay



Yeah man, I skimmed what he wrote and its actually not just a crazy creepy ramble


But dude, you've got to learn some internet ettiquitte. Its painful to read a huge block of text and its also time-consuming. I want a conversation not an exchange of research papers, you know what I mean?

Just giving you a heads up, you're new to this community (by post count anyway) and possibly internet boards in general. This is your only warning, further blocks of text will result in severe beatings... I may be drinking lol


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Re: I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever [Re: bloodsheen]
    #23567392 - 08/22/16 09:02 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

TL;DR = people's personal and individual beliefs were always (from antiquity) more important than the intra-personal and collective beliefs of the masses, that is, until the masses took over from the minorities, and said minorities assimilated.


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Re: I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever [Re: Kinko] * 1
    #23567398 - 08/22/16 09:05 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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The answer to life is really simple and not so complex the answer has been hiding in plain site all along.        Humans can have a wide range of experiences but never get to experience being dead.      When you die on this plain of existence you immediately go to a parallel universe almost identical to our own , you keep on living life just like before , death is nothing but a near death experience..    Every time you have a near death experience you die and are summoned in another universe or world.      There are millions of copies of yourself all thought universe ....    I know I have died at least once when someone abruptly switched lanes and got on my lane so to avoid them I turned and drove on the grass going 93 mph , I hit the breaks the car turned sideways and I slid for a good 300-400 yards before coming to a stop without a scratch on me or the car... Hhhaa yea right asshole I know I died that day... But not really since there are millions of copies of me ready to tune into my consciousness as soon as I pass..... This is really all common sense




Holy shit... you are so spot on it's insane!
Okay... I have died TWICE that I know of... 
This may seem like a crazy question, and I don't really care if anyone can identify with or understand it:
Has anyone ever been stamped into the Book of Life?
When it happens, you know it. It's like a sonic boom comes down on you and you can seriously see it ripple through the sky like an echo. Time actually slows down for a moment, but you do not. You get a sense like that moment was entered into a holy book of moments. Like the actually fucking moment is in this page of this book and underneath it something is written.


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Re: I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever [Re: bloodsheen]
    #23567411 - 08/22/16 09:09 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I like to answer unasked questions in one big post or two, wraps things up quickly. Or maybe because I'm stoned atm.


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Re: I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever [Re: Hash_is_life]
    #23567436 - 08/22/16 09:22 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I'll admit that I had a similar experience. only mine didn't come from realizing that there was no god, quite the opposite I had mine when I discovered my own faith, and the many gods that it contains.

it was the realization that the gods aren't kind and loving, nor do they need to be, they have their own roles to play and those roles don't often overlap with ours.

The abrahamic faiths are actually a bit of an anomaly when it comes to faith worldwide, in that to my knowledge their god is the only one who is described as being all loving and caring, AND takes a personal and vested interest in individuals.

most other faiths that i've heard about the gods are distant, and don't generally pay much direct attention to us. and when they do it tends to be a fairly life shattering event and not often for the better.


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Re: I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever [Re: Bjorn_Stormcrow]
    #23567457 - 08/22/16 09:27 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

You know, I never really thought of it that way but you're right. Even the story of Prometheus, when a god came down to help mankind he was horrifically punished for it. I never considered the spiritual rammifications of such a heavenly body, to believe that you weren't actually intended to have the only thing that keeps you alive in the winter... what the fuck kind of faith is that?

But thats from the point of view of being raised in a christian household, to them we would be so fuckin weird

Edit: Have I ever mentioned that you're basically my favorite poster ever? You're the fucking weirdest, craziest, coolest, most strangely brilliant dude ever  :hellyeah:


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Re: I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever [Re: Hash_is_life]
    #23567465 - 08/22/16 09:29 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I read it. You got a little carried away with examples of cognitive dissonance and bell curves and the such, but overall great post.


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Re: I'm really glad there is obviously no God because if there were hes the biggest asshole ever [Re: Svetaketu]
    #23567575 - 08/22/16 10:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The thing is, cognitive dissonance is the biggest reason why most people still hold onto their faiths.


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