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First Oyster and Phoenix Buckets :)
#23560882 - 08/20/16 06:53 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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hi everyone, i am new to gourmet and medicinal, but i have lots of stuff in the works 
Here are a few buckets that are getting close to ready to fruit, wanted to get some feedback on how to move forward from someone more experienced
Blue Oyster straw buckets, 5 days after spawning:
Lung/phoenix oyster straw bucket, 8 days after spawning:

thanks a bunch!
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Re: First Oyster and Phoenix Buckets :) [Re: c10h12n2o]
#23560907 - 08/20/16 06:59 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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they look ready to fruit. you will have best results with cooler temps for the blue, not sure where you are in the world but below 15 Celsius is what you'll need. Phoenix are best in summer. Both will need fresh air, light, and high humidity to get some pins going.
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Re: First Oyster and Phoenix Buckets :) [Re: anthiawe]
#23561102 - 08/20/16 07:52 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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great thanks ! 
i am in the PNW, and have a basement that stays right at 65 F, but my incubator room is around 81 F
should i drape a trashbag over them and mist under lights, with a fan in the corner? any recommendations? i also have a 75 F fruiting room and outside shaded areas available, and since the buckets are easy to move i can set up whatever seems to be a good plan
much obliged my friend
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Re: First Oyster and Phoenix Buckets :) [Re: c10h12n2o]
#23561510 - 08/20/16 09:51 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Unless those buckets are only about the size of a mug, those holes are quite considerably too large. You will likely struggle to stop it from drying out once you take the bag off. For future reference, you don't need holes any larger than 1/2 inch.
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Re: First Oyster and Phoenix Buckets :) [Re: kunino]
#23561609 - 08/20/16 10:37 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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kunino said: Unless those buckets are only about the size of a mug, those holes are quite considerably too large. You will likely struggle to stop it from drying out once you take the bag off. For future reference, you don't need holes any larger than 1/2 inch.
It's going to be an uphill battle to keep your substrate from drying out.
I feel you are on the right track with the bags+fan+light.
Anthiawe is right-you'll need some high humidity to get those guys pinning.
I work at a commercial spot that does oysters for restaurants. We use hanging straw logs in greenhouse scenarios. It's a well known spot so that's all I'll say for the sake of anonymity.
Humidity needs to real high to grab pins.
RR's idea of slicing the bag open and gently laying the plastic back over the substrate is PERFECT as the micro-climate created is wonderful to achieve a brilliant pinset.
All the best! Keep us updated!
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Re: First Oyster and Phoenix Buckets :) [Re: morty422]
#23561873 - 08/21/16 12:44 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I really appreciate the feedback guys, much obliged my friends 
That makes lots of sense!!! It was such a pain in the ass keeping straw from falling out while making them. I think they are 4 gallon and 2 gallon buckets, and I made the holes 2", as per recommendation of the guy that sent me the culture in a trade, he said to make 2" holes lol... So 1/2" really? Is that big enough to support clusters? Should I tape up the holes to restrict them down closer to spec?
Thanks morty, that's really cool! I tried a straw log cube grow once when I first started growing, it didn't do well overall , but it made 5 tiny flushes and then the single largest mushroom I've ever grown as the 7th!! Over 11" long! Crazy compared to the earlier fruits! I would love to try some vertical logs in a greenhouse though, what a cool job!
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Re: First Oyster and Phoenix Buckets :) [Re: c10h12n2o]
#23561892 - 08/21/16 12:53 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have had huge clusters grow out of the air holes i stab in my logs which can't be more than 1/8th inch, 1/2" is plenty.
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Re: First Oyster and Phoenix Buckets :) [Re: weetsie]
#23561907 - 08/21/16 01:00 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Makes sense, thanks buddy!! Anything I can do to salvage these? Maybe tape the holes down to 1/2"?
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Re: First Oyster and Phoenix Buckets :) [Re: weetsie]
#23561983 - 08/21/16 01:46 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah just use anything to reduce the hole, bit of tape will be fine.
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Re: First Oyster and Phoenix Buckets :) [Re: weetsie]
#23562005 - 08/21/16 02:02 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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weetsie said: Yeah just use anything to reduce the hole, bit of tape will be fine.

Remember spawning nor fruiting are sterile events. Whatever you want to do to make the holes smaller will work. No worries! These will be good grows!
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Re: First Oyster and Phoenix Buckets :) [Re: morty422]
#23564291 - 08/21/16 09:26 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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thanks a bunch guys, yall rock
so i was just telling my gf the plan, to tape up the holes to restrict them to a smaller size, and she said "why dont you just tape up all the holes and make new holes with your 3/4" hole saw?" dunno why i didnt think of that lol.... does this sound viable to yall?
if so, do i need to take any special precautions, or is there anything else fundamental i should keep in mind regarding hole placement, size, etc?
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Re: First Oyster and Phoenix Buckets :) [Re: c10h12n2o]
#23564311 - 08/21/16 09:33 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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3/4" might still be a bit big, to be honest. But more importantly, if you drill into it now you will damage the growing mycelium. It will then take several more days for it to recover, and the damage may provide a point of entry for contaminants. Better, I think, just to use tape or some such to reduce the size of the current holes, and leave drilling new, smaller holes until next time.
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Re: First Oyster and Phoenix Buckets :) [Re: kunino]
#23564447 - 08/21/16 10:22 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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kunino said: 3/4" might still be a bit big, to be honest. But more importantly, if you drill into it now you will damage the growing mycelium. It will then take several more days for it to recover, and the damage may provide a point of entry for contaminants. Better, I think, just to use tape or some such to reduce the size of the current holes, and leave drilling new, smaller holes until next time.
Yes. Just apply tape to create a smaller 'hole'. We do the same with our hanging logs when one of us accidentally rips the bag open due to being over zealous with the hole punch.
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Re: First Oyster and Phoenix Buckets :) [Re: morty422]
#23564617 - 08/21/16 11:43 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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thanks a bunch friends, very helpful, i really appreciate it
should i just reduce each hole down to a single 1/2" hole, or should i try to tape it down to fit 2 holes per hole? if i tape each one down to a single 1/2" hole, will i have enough total holes?
Im about to tape them up and then move the blue oyster buckets to the basement, and put a trash bag over them loosely.. as far as misting and other maintainance, do i just 12/12 light and mist the hole areas lightly ? sorry for all the dumb questions, im totally new to these species 
i suppose the i will do the same with the lung/phoenix bucket, except maybe move it to my fruiting room (77 F) or fruit it in my incubator room where it is at 81 F. or perhaps even on my shady back porch here in PNW, temps been in high 80s F. what do yall think?
thanks again for helping me break into the world of edibles
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Re: First Oyster and Phoenix Buckets :) [Re: c10h12n2o]
#23564632 - 08/21/16 11:48 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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You must have 6+ holes in those? that's plenty.
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Re: First Oyster and Phoenix Buckets :) [Re: weetsie]
#23564683 - 08/22/16 12:06 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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i have no idea, apparently the original plan i started with was WAY off, 2" sure made things messy!! if the overall number of holes looks ok i will just tape em down into single 1/2" holes
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Re: First Oyster and Phoenix Buckets :) [Re: c10h12n2o]
#23593682 - 08/30/16 01:19 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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UPDATE:
I finally have some pins on one of my blue oyster buckets!! lots of em actually oddly enough, the identical bucket beside it has zero


any ideas/feedback? assume im totally ignorant haha
also my lung/phoenix bucket, which was WAY colonized , still hasnt pinned :/ i have it in my main fruiting room in the mid 70s
what does it seem like i am doing wrong?
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Re: First Oyster and Phoenix Buckets :) [Re: c10h12n2o]
#23593820 - 08/30/16 01:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey tonin, looks like they need a lot more FAE and light. Oysters grown in low light will produce club-like fruit with tiny caps. Inadequate FAE will result in coral-like or really fucked up looking mushrooms if they don't just abort. What are your growing conditions?
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Re: First Oyster and Phoenix Buckets :) [Re: Mycolorado]
#23593892 - 08/30/16 02:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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thanks buddy!!
my new hygrometer is coming in tomorrow , i will post specifics then
the blue oysters are 2x 2 gal buckets, in a basement that stays pretty cool, probably 70 F at the warmest, usualy 64ish F. i sat it on a plastic bin to raise it off the ground, put a single clear trashbag liner over it as a humidity tent, and i cut slits in the bag for FAE (some holes might have been too big) I then put an oscilating fan in the corner and leave it on low (if the airstream is too close to the buckets, it is impossible to keep the tent humid). i have been using standard incandescent room light manually turning it on and off with the sun. One of the buckets has pins on almost every single hole!!! so cool looking, im stoked but the other has none at all. the one with the pins is furthest from the fan, but only slightly. I have been misting them 1-2 times daily
(FYI: timers, 6500k CFL lights, and hygrometer will all be here tomorrow)
the lung/phoenix is a 4 gal bucket with a clear liner humidity tent like the others. the temp stays 73-78 F , usually 74. misted daily, and leave a fan running in the corner 24/7. no pins at all on this one yet, which surprises me because it was the most colonize and aggressive by far, must be doing something wrong. lol i hope all the pins arent under the lid (i havent checked )
need anything else? i really appreciate your help good people
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Re: First Oyster and Phoenix Buckets :) [Re: c10h12n2o]
#23593914 - 08/30/16 02:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nice pins . I think you need to remove the plastic to fruit them. They can't get enough air under the plastic.
Keep plastic on the Phoenix until they pin.
If you can water the floor or soak some towels to get humidity up while they fruit. Keep humid as possible. Humidifier would be great.
Fan can dry them out.
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Re: First Oyster and Phoenix Buckets :) [Re: Quadman]
#23594209 - 08/30/16 04:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Like Quadman said, it will help to wet the floor or put a wet towel under the buckets to raise rh. The lights will definitely help as well. I think your biggest issue is the FAE...humidity and FAE are a tough balancing act when we're limited by our equipment or live in deserts. Some people build swamp coolers out of 5 gallon buckets(see youtube) to help with rh while simultaneously providing FAE. Not sure on the phoenix...they may just be taking a bit longer to start fruiting...Either way, you're on the right track. I built a 5'x5'x6' fruiting chamber in my basement. Here's a pic with the swamp cooler (don't use it anymore but should). You might be able to do the same or put together a "Martha".
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Re: First Oyster and Phoenix Buckets :) [Re: weetsie]
#23597134 - 08/31/16 11:15 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks for the feedback guys, super helpful 
Will post pics today, oyster pins look so cool!!!
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Re: First Oyster and Phoenix Buckets :) [Re: c10h12n2o]
#23598894 - 08/31/16 08:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have two recomendations for you:
- I would move that grow outside if the conditions make it possible. I remember RR talking about getting nasty allergies due to the spores coming off of his oysters on his indoor grows.
- I recommend even smaller holes than 1/2". Look at the difference below. The orange bucket had 7/8" holes. And the grey one had 1/8" holes.


I attribute the difference to increased moisture retention. Any buckets I make in the future will have the smaller holes.
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Did you line the buckets here with plastic bags, or just using a plastic bucket? And what was the production weight difference of the 2 Buckets? They look like they were substantially higher in the smaller holed one.
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wildernessjunkie said: I have two recomendations for you:
- I would move that grow outside if the conditions make it possible. I remember RR talking about getting nasty allergies due to the spores coming off of his oysters on his indoor grows.
- I recommend even smaller holes than 1/2". Look at the difference below. The orange bucket had 7/8" holes. And the grey one had 1/8" holes.


I attribute the difference to increased moisture retention. Any buckets I make in the future will have the smaller holes.
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Re: First Oyster and Phoenix Buckets :) [Re: OldYamaha]
#23662054 - 09/20/16 02:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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c10, pleasure to meet you, I have seen some of your other posts around here and wanted to thank you for being a breath of fresh air. I wanted to tell you that your tek you just wrote for 150 ppm bleach solution is awesome and should be posted in this forum as well, and may be more appreciated. Anyways, I look forward to seeing more of your oysters, grows, teks and discussions
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Re: First Oyster and Phoenix Buckets :) [Re: Marty Mycfly]
#23662421 - 09/20/16 05:09 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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wildernessjunkie said: I have two recomendations for you:
- I would move that grow outside if the conditions make it possible. I remember RR talking about getting nasty allergies due to the spores coming off of his oysters on his indoor grows.
- I recommend even smaller holes than 1/2". Look at the difference below. The orange bucket had 7/8" holes. And the grey one had 1/8" holes.


I attribute the difference to increased moisture retention. Any buckets I make in the future will have the smaller holes.
dude you rock! killer post, excellent info, +5 
I just read a study about mushroom cultivators lung disease on commercial oyster farms in china, apparently they really mess some people up!
i moved the blues outside (beside some SGFCs full of lions mane blocks lol), and they seemed to love it! I kept the phoenix oysters inside, since the temps might be a bit low for it outside
i have been so enjoying eating these things! been having oysters and lions mane every other meal, its so satisfying eating something you grew 
in all future buckets i will most definitely be using tiny holes instead of the gargantuans i used here


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Marty Mycfly said: c10, pleasure to meet you, I have seen some of your other posts around here and wanted to thank you for being a breath of fresh air. I wanted to tell you that your tek you just wrote for 150 ppm bleach solution is awesome and should be posted in this forum as well, and may be more appreciated. Anyways, I look forward to seeing more of your oysters, grows, teks and discussions
much obliged my friend! and likewise! thanks for the kind words, the pleasure is all mine 
thanks buddy, im glad you found it useful! I see it suggested everywhere but couldnt find any details on the procedure (for math idiots like myself lol), so i shared once i figured it out. very surprised by the technique's effectiveness though
is there a good way to post it here? i suspect it would be very useful to anyone growing king oysters, since they are notoriously susceptible to pseudomonas. but of course it wouldnt make sense to do a double post of the same thing in two forums (and against the rules). i think you are right, it would probably help more people here
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Re: First Oyster and Phoenix Buckets :) [Re: c10h12n2o]
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Lookin good mate!
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Re: First Oyster and Phoenix Buckets :) [Re: TravelAgency]
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Re: First Oyster and Phoenix Buckets :) [Re: Quadman]
#23663772 - 09/21/16 12:04 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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There were no liners in the bucket. And I didnt weigh out the difference in production. Just by visual inspection though, its clear to see the winner.
IIRC those were, P.Pulonaris MS3 culture.
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The spores really fuck me up, I use a 3m p100 mask and make sure everything is exhausting properly and still it affects me, I get sudden fevers and lung problems as symptoms. RR almost DIED because of oyster spores, the story is on here from his words somewhere deep in this forum, but in short he was fruiting oysters in a mini greenhouse in his bed room while he was staying in an apartment in the city, he suddenly fell severely ill and thought he had the flu or something and layed in bed for 3 days in the very same room that was making him sick, he said by the time the misses got him to the hospital he was in anaphylactic shock and almost died, the allergy stayed with him and he could never grow oysters again and would run far away from any he saw growing in the wild while hiking and such. He said said it was so bad, that even after years of not being around oysters he decided to grow a batch in his buried grow house and became ill from inside his own house the minute they started even pinning, had to have the wife go out and chuck a bunch of logs in the snow off property. You can see why he was primarily a shiitaki farmer. These motherfuckers aint no joke, and I feel I fucked myself on my very first grow not taking precaution and boy did it really catch up to me.
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Re: First Oyster and Phoenix Buckets :) [Re: Marty Mycfly]
#23663977 - 09/21/16 02:00 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Great grow and some interesting info re the spores.
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Thanks. I have been using 3.5 gallon frosting buckets from WalMart, with 1" holes but with plastic bag liners. I got 27#s from a 40# bag of sawdust, and I will repeat that but also do a bag with the smaller holes to compare it with. Harry
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Re: First Oyster and Phoenix Buckets :) [Re: OldYamaha]
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Marty Mycfly said: The spores really fuck me up, I use a 3m p100 mask and make sure everything is exhausting properly and still it affects me, I get sudden fevers and lung problems as symptoms. RR almost DIED because of oyster spores, the story is on here from his words somewhere deep in this forum, but in short he was fruiting oysters in a mini greenhouse in his bed room while he was staying in an apartment in the city, he suddenly fell severely ill and thought he had the flu or something and layed in bed for 3 days in the very same room that was making him sick, he said by the time the misses got him to the hospital he was in anaphylactic shock and almost died, the allergy stayed with him and he could never grow oysters again and would run far away from any he saw growing in the wild while hiking and such. He said said it was so bad, that even after years of not being around oysters he decided to grow a batch in his buried grow house and became ill from inside his own house the minute they started even pinning, had to have the wife go out and chuck a bunch of logs in the snow off property. You can see why he was primarily a shiitaki farmer. These motherfuckers aint no joke, and I feel I fucked myself on my very first grow not taking precaution and boy did it really catch up to me.
oh my god, im gonna have to find that post 
here are a few academic papers on the topic:
https://occmed.oxfordjournals.org/content/48/7/465.full.pdf
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4535017/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2367412 <------- check this out at least
holy shit google indexes this site quickly!!

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thanks buddy, glad you found it helpful , i certainly have!! 
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OldYamaha said: Thanks. I have been using 3.5 gallon frosting buckets from WalMart, with 1" holes but with plastic bag liners. I got 27#s from a 40# bag of sawdust, and I will repeat that but also do a bag with the smaller holes to compare it with. Harry
btw whats the reasoning behind using a liner for buckets like these? i see lots of people in other threads who have strong feeling about them one way or another, in some particular context or other, but people never seem to qualify their rants lol
Edited by c10h12n2o (09/21/16 01:58 PM)
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Marty Mycfly
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Re: First Oyster and Phoenix Buckets :) [Re: c10h12n2o]
#23665127 - 09/21/16 01:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Wow, the third link wasn't working, I don't know if you can post it again? But damn, crazy shit.
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Re: First Oyster and Phoenix Buckets :) [Re: Marty Mycfly]
#23665155 - 09/21/16 02:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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thanks buddy, fixed 
apparently its something you really want to avoid; there is basically no treatment for it, drugs are useless. avoidance is really the only way to treat it or prevent it
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Re: First Oyster and Phoenix Buckets :) [Re: c10h12n2o]
#23665166 - 09/21/16 02:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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While growing them it is pretty unavoidable for me no matter what I do, just some getting on my clothes while Im in the room will affect me later, either I just have an allergy concerning oyster spores or it happened from getting over exposed initially.
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Re: First Oyster and Phoenix Buckets :) [Re: Marty Mycfly]
#23665169 - 09/21/16 02:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes that link was very bleak
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Re: First Oyster and Phoenix Buckets :) [Re: Marty Mycfly]
#23665264 - 09/21/16 02:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Easier cleanup, but if you use larger holes (I use 1" holes) I use a 3 blade broadhead to poke holes in the liner through the 1" holes. After the 2nd flush, pull the bags from the bucket, break the bags, send to the recycle center, bags into the recycle container, soak the buckets in a bleach/soap tub, rinse, repeat. Less plastic in the trash, less work.

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btw whats the reasoning behind using a liner for buckets like these? i see lots of people in other threads who have strong feeling about them one way or another, in some particular context or other, but people never seem to qualify their rants lol
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Re: First Oyster and Phoenix Buckets :) [Re: Marty Mycfly]
#23666741 - 09/21/16 11:03 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Marty Mycfly said: The spores really fuck me up, I use a 3m p100 mask and make sure everything is exhausting properly and still it affects me, I get sudden fevers and lung problems as symptoms. RR almost DIED because of oyster spores, the story is on here from his words somewhere deep in this forum, but in short he was fruiting oysters in a mini greenhouse in his bed room while he was staying in an apartment in the city, he suddenly fell severely ill and thought he had the flu or something and layed in bed for 3 days in the very same room that was making him sick, he said by the time the misses got him to the hospital he was in anaphylactic shock and almost died, the allergy stayed with him and he could never grow oysters again and would run far away from any he saw growing in the wild while hiking and such. He said said it was so bad, that even after years of not being around oysters he decided to grow a batch in his buried grow house and became ill from inside his own house the minute they started even pinning, had to have the wife go out and chuck a bunch of logs in the snow off property. You can see why he was primarily a shiitaki farmer. These motherfuckers aint no joke, and I feel I fucked myself on my very first grow not taking precaution and boy did it really catch up to me.
Holy hell. I had no idea. Thanks for the info. I guess I should at least take precautions when I go into my buddy's huge FC.
By the by: good to see you back Marty! let me know if you need any wedges!
Edited by TravelAgency (09/21/16 11:04 PM)
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