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Dabiq, What Muslems Really Want and Why they Hate Us-Sam Harris(40 min video)fixed
    #23560679 - 08/20/16 05:48 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Recetly Isis released an article detailing the concerns of Muslims in their magazine, named after the place where they will battle the rusaders in the final battle, Dabiq

They make it extreamly clear that it isnt some idea of economic inequaity, but theological certitude, that drives this growing movement

Sam Harris is a neuroscientist, philosopher, and author on the subject, as well as christianity, meditation, and AI(soon to be released)
the video speaks for itself, and is far from a hate video.



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Re: Dabiq, What Muslems Really Want and Why they Hate Us-Sam Harris(40 min video) [Re: specialpeopleclub] * 2
    #23560808 - 08/20/16 06:34 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

u posted the wrong video breh


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Re: Dabiq, What Muslems Really Want and Why they Hate Us-Sam Harris(40 min video) [Re: morrowasted] * 2
    #23560830 - 08/20/16 06:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

lol


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Re: Dabiq, What Muslems Really Want and Why they Hate Us-Sam Harris(40 min video) [Re: akira_akuma] * 3
    #23560849 - 08/20/16 06:44 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I can't take OP seriously at all with that broken keyboard of his.


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Re: Dabiq, What Muslems Really Want and Why they Hate Us-Sam Harris(40 min video) [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23560899 - 08/20/16 06:57 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

pretending you posted the right video, I'm familiar with sam harris, and he's surely a smart guy who I sometimes agree with, but I think he overstates the actual threat Islam poses to the west, or at least his arguments -largely reasonable- are easily misconstrued or used for nefarious means.

“Hundreds of millions of Muslims are nominal Muslims, who don’t take their faith seriously, who don’t want to kill apostates, who are horrified by ISIS [Islamic State] and we need to defend these people, prop them up and let them reform their faith.”

This quote is directly from Sam Harris.
It is one thing to say that Islam in its original form is awful, and quite another to extend that judgement to all Muslims


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Re: Dabiq, What Muslems Really Want and Why they Hate Us-Sam Harris(40 min video) [Re: Ezuma]
    #23560913 - 08/20/16 07:02 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

basically he's intellectualizing what i've already said in plain words years ago. ISIS started becoming a new threat, and the US didn't do nothing, no, they wanted to remain 'non-interventionist', and now they lay around and complain about ISIS and the Mooslims, all day, these people.


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Re: Dabiq, What Muslems Really Want and Why they Hate Us-Sam Harris(40 min video) [Re: Ezuma] * 1
    #23560937 - 08/20/16 07:07 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Ezuma said:
pretending you posted the right video, I'm familiar with sam harris, and he's surely a smart guy who I sometimes agree with, but I think he overstates the actual threat Islam poses to the west, or at least his arguments -largely reasonable- are easily misconstrued or used for nefarious means.

“Hundreds of millions of Muslims are nominal Muslims, who don’t take their faith seriously, who don’t want to kill apostates, who are horrified by ISIS [Islamic State] and we need to defend these people, prop them up and let them reform their faith.”

This quote is directly from Sam Harris.
It is one thing to say that Islam in its original form is awful, and quite another to extend that judgement to all Muslims




Agreed.


I'm a pretty big Sam Harris fan, I own several of his books, I've seen nearly all his debates, and I listen to his podcast regularly.

But he's wrong on how sever of a problem Islam is. For someone whos a determinist, and doesnt believe in free will, he doesnt seem to grasp that external factors (outside of religion) have thrust radical Islam upon the world.

This is one of the few things we disagree on.


For anyone interesred, theres an excellent 3 hour conversation between Sam and Cenk Uygur of TYT on the topic of Islam.


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Re: Dabiq, What Muslems Really Want and Why they Hate Us-Sam Harris(40 min video) [Re: specialpeopleclub] * 1
    #23560954 - 08/20/16 07:12 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

That video was moderately amusing


On topic, I don't think Islam is a serious threat to the West
Not in the slightest


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Re: Dabiq, What Muslems Really Want and Why they Hate Us-Sam Harris(40 min video) [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23560998 - 08/20/16 07:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

wahhabism seems to be a pretty big threat with all the terrorism


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Re: Dabiq, What Muslems Really Want and Why they Hate Us-Sam Harris(40 min video) [Re: 404] * 1
    #23561004 - 08/20/16 07:27 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

OP basically hates anyone that isn't him.

EDIT: He probably hates him too. Probably the mostest.


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Re: Dabiq, What Muslems Really Want and Why they Hate Us-Sam Harris(40 min video) [Re: 404] * 1
    #23561155 - 08/20/16 08:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

404 said:
wahhabism seems to be a pretty big threat with all the terrorism




Well I agree that they can kill random groups of unarmed civilians

On a national level, they're no threat, even Saudi Arabia and Iran are just pawns.


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Re: Dabiq, What Muslems Really Want and Why they Hate Us-Sam Harris(40 min video) [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23561245 - 08/20/16 08:24 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

haha jokeshop!

You know look out your window, are there any ISIS mofos aiming at you?

No,

so take responsibility for your life.

Fuck this fear mongering shit.

If you're right, about life, if you figure something out, it will be written all over you, so then you don't need to convince anybody, just live your life, people will understand they are wrong, they will seek what you found out.

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Re: Dabiq, What Muslems Really Want and Why they Hate Us-Sam Harris(40 min video) [Re: 404]
    #23561276 - 08/20/16 08:30 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

404 said:
wahhabism seems to be a pretty big threat with all the terrorism



I love wasabi


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Re: Dabiq, What Muslems Really Want and Why they Hate Us-Sam Harris(40 min video) [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23561300 - 08/20/16 08:35 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Repertoire89 said:
Quote:

404 said:
wahhabism seems to be a pretty big threat with all the terrorism




Well I agree that they can kill random groups of unarmed civilians

On a national level, they're no threat, even Saudi Arabia and Iran are just pawns.




wahaibism is an ideology or whatever, likely to blame for radical islam. so at the end of that, you have the terror attacks in the US, France, etc


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Re: Dabiq, What Muslems Really Want and Why they Hate Us-Sam Harris(40 min video) [Re: 404] * 1
    #23561487 - 08/20/16 09:45 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Lol wrong video

You posted a video of a guy talking about how much he loves fucking women on their periods. I approve :thumbup:


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Re: Dabiq, What Muslems Really Want and Why they Hate Us-Sam Harris(40 min video) [Re: Crystal G]
    #23561746 - 08/20/16 11:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Surprise period sex is good but can be a let down when you think you she is getting super wet and then you find a murder scene.  Sheets aren't cheap...

As for Islam not being a threat to the west, tell that to the 1400 years of conflict between the two.  Muslims aren't inherently bad people, in fact many if not most are good people, but to say Islam and the west don't have history is living in denial.  The fact that so many people seem to ignore this aspect of reality is an indicator of its threat level.  :shrug:


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Re: Dabiq, What Muslems Really Want and Why they Hate Us-Sam Harris(40 min video) [Re: 404]
    #23561785 - 08/21/16 12:00 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

404 said:
Quote:

Repertoire89 said:
Quote:

404 said:
wahhabism seems to be a pretty big threat with all the terrorism




Well I agree that they can kill random groups of unarmed civilians

On a national level, they're no threat, even Saudi Arabia and Iran are just pawns.




wahaibism is an ideology or whatever, likely to blame for radical islam. so at the end of that, you have the terror attacks in the US, France, etc




the amount of concern we have about terrorism and the amount of money we spend fighting it is so completely out of proportion to the actual risk.

There are gonna be tiny headed babies born all over Florida in the next year and we can't even get congress to allocate funds to help prevent tiny baby heads.


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Re: Dabiq, What Muslems Really Want and Why they Hate Us-Sam Harris(40 min video) [Re: koods]
    #23561792 - 08/21/16 12:02 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I think the real concern regarding Islam isn't terrorism, it is a coup or colonization- but more likely to happen first in Europe.


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Re: Dabiq, What Muslems Really Want and Why they Hate Us-Sam Harris(40 min video) [Re: koods]
    #23561804 - 08/21/16 12:10 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

zika affects adults too man. I need to get the hell out of here.
by the way, they are taking measures to control it in miami now. they are pretty much destroying mosquito populations in some portions, not a bad idea but i'm skeptical of the implications this may have down the line.


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Re: Dabiq, What Muslems Really Want and Why they Hate Us-Sam Harris(40 min video) [Re: MrBlueYoMind]
    #23561810 - 08/21/16 12:12 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

A coup? Like France is going to fall to Islamic rebels?

Even if Muslims gained enough political power to elect Islamist politicians (which isn't something that is even close to happening), western countries have constitutions that ensure secular government. Even turkey, which is 99% Muslim, has resisted Islamization and sharia. Western European countries aren't even in danger of becoming majority Muslim.


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