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Grandmother
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Would this Aerus Lux Guardian be usable as a Flow Hood?
#23560525 - 08/20/16 04:52 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I found this Aerus Lux Guardian Air HEPA filter + Germicidal UV lamp air filter system at a thrift shop for $40, after digging around online I found out that they sell new for $1500, so I snatched it up in a heart beat. All it needs is a replacement filter which is pretty cheap. Do you guys think this will be usable as a flow hood if I clean it thoroughly? It's supposed to be rated as a Class II Medical Device.

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36fuckin5
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Re: Would this Aerus Lux Guardian be usable as a Flow Hood? [Re: Grandmother]
#23560751 - 08/20/16 06:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Not a chance.
-------------------- Redd Foxx said: If you're offended I don't give a shit and don't come see me no more. Pat The Bunny said: A punk rock song won't ever change the world, but I can tell you about a couple that changed me. bodhisatta said: i recommend common sense and figuring it out. These are the TEKs I use. They're all as cheap and easy as possible, just like your mom.
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Grandmother
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Re: Would this Aerus Lux Guardian be usable as a Flow Hood? [Re: 36fuckin5]
#23560801 - 08/20/16 06:33 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I dunno, we'll see if it passes the petri dish test in about a week. Kinda surprised I've never seen the germicidal UV light being included in the home builds before since it's so cheap to include.
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36fuckin5
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Re: Would this Aerus Lux Guardian be usable as a Flow Hood? [Re: Grandmother]
#23560819 - 08/20/16 06:38 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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The UVC light doesn't sterilize well for mycology. It also causes cancer.
That machine doesn't have laminar flow. 100% chance that it won't work.
Just stick it in your fruiting room to cut down on sporeload or something.
-------------------- Redd Foxx said: If you're offended I don't give a shit and don't come see me no more. Pat The Bunny said: A punk rock song won't ever change the world, but I can tell you about a couple that changed me. bodhisatta said: i recommend common sense and figuring it out. These are the TEKs I use. They're all as cheap and easy as possible, just like your mom.
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KThunderland
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Re: Would this Aerus Lux Guardian be usable as a Flow Hood? [Re: 36fuckin5]
#23563925 - 08/21/16 07:35 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Its a great find though. I would have grabed it for sure. You might be able to use that in conjuction a lot of air sanitizer and with aseptic technique to make a "clean room" of sorts. thats kinda how i do my work. Agar and all. (of course youd have to scrub in i go the whole 9 with a face sheild and lab coat, mask , head cover , gloves ...but mostly because i think its awesome.
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36fuckin5
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Re: Would this Aerus Lux Guardian be usable as a Flow Hood? [Re: KThunderland]
#23565296 - 08/22/16 08:23 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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KThunderland said:You might be able to use that in conjuction a lot of air sanitizer and with aseptic technique to make a "clean room" of sorts. thats kinda how i do my work. Agar and all. (of course youd have to scrub in i go the whole 9 with a face sheild and lab coat, mask , head cover , gloves ...but mostly because i think its awesome.
That's highly inefficient and ineffective. Just make a box with some holes in it. A box with holes will do absolutely everything you need to grow mushrooms at home.
-------------------- Redd Foxx said: If you're offended I don't give a shit and don't come see me no more. Pat The Bunny said: A punk rock song won't ever change the world, but I can tell you about a couple that changed me. bodhisatta said: i recommend common sense and figuring it out. These are the TEKs I use. They're all as cheap and easy as possible, just like your mom.
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KThunderland
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Re: Would this Aerus Lux Guardian be usable as a Flow Hood? [Re: 36fuckin5]
#23567215 - 08/22/16 08:05 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Inefficient yeah but not ineffective. Its a matter of scale and cost. Sab can be hard to work in. My room is like a sab with me in it if you are doing a lot of work at once , or droping wedges in gallon jars. Its the aseptic technique that matters most. At thw end of the day id rather still air than a hepa blowing shit around. My vaccum is hepa but i would think of running that in my room. Before i repreposed the room i was using a still air box made of 2*2s and painters plastic, big enough but led to the idea of just wanting to get in there to work, which led to a hug sab with multiple holes (like what they use for surgery on aliens...) and eventualy me in the room with with everything. Bleach wipe down before , full aseptic techinique and attire, and a 5% dipro gycol mist (clorox makes one for the lab, and one with ethnol and water for surfaces too) The hepa runs when not in use, my uv-c overheads run when the hepa runs, or whenever i forget to tuen it off with the hepa.it was supposed to be untill i got laminar flow setup, but that hasent happened yet 5 years later. I hate sab how any of you can see into a sterlite or work in one is beyond me, but yeah it works.
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36fuckin5
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Re: Would this Aerus Lux Guardian be usable as a Flow Hood? [Re: KThunderland]
#23567510 - 08/22/16 09:47 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Your room doesn't have still air because you're in it breathing and moving. That method is highly inefficient and ineffective. You don't wanna be closing yourself off in a room like that anyway, especially if you're gonna be doing a lot of work by yourself. You can suffocate.
Get a still air box. If you need to scale up then getting a flowhood shouldn't be hard.
-------------------- Redd Foxx said: If you're offended I don't give a shit and don't come see me no more. Pat The Bunny said: A punk rock song won't ever change the world, but I can tell you about a couple that changed me. bodhisatta said: i recommend common sense and figuring it out. These are the TEKs I use. They're all as cheap and easy as possible, just like your mom.
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KThunderland
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Re: Would this Aerus Lux Guardian be usable as a Flow Hood? [Re: 36fuckin5]
#23568260 - 08/23/16 07:00 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I wear a facesheild and mask. It is for all purposes as still as the air in a sab with moving hands and a gap on the bottom (no matter how small. A flowhood is always gonna be better , and i did expect a rise in contamination rates, but i havent noticed one. Sometimes ill have plates not grow at all, but with zero contamination ever after extwnded incubation. I could be lucky and have a really clean house but with a gaggle of kids and 4 cats i doubt it.
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KThunderland
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Re: Would this Aerus Lux Guardian be usable as a Flow Hood? [Re: KThunderland]
#23568263 - 08/23/16 07:02 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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The point is i think that a sab is the good advice, the advice that wont cost a tc badge. Never let anyone on the shroomery stifle your will to experiment, hell do a plate in front of that as a hood why tf not. Wxperiment get better for u. What works for me might not work for u.
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36fuckin5
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Re: Would this Aerus Lux Guardian be usable as a Flow Hood? [Re: KThunderland]
#23569263 - 08/23/16 01:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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KThunderland said: The point is i think that a sab is the good advice, the advice that wont cost a tc badge.
Lol, I'm not trying to protect my TC tag. I didn't ask for it and could really give a shit less about it. I'm telling you from 13 years of experience, and trying every damn method there is that didn't look just retarded, that it's not a good method.
If you're growing so much that you need a still-air room, then you should be making money somehow off of it. You can't just eat that much, edibles or actives. So you should be able to afford a hood. The cost-benefit ratio is enormous.
You could use a small PVC frame and plastic to house your hood in a small room and use the rest of it for fruiting. That's be the smart way to do it.
-------------------- Redd Foxx said: If you're offended I don't give a shit and don't come see me no more. Pat The Bunny said: A punk rock song won't ever change the world, but I can tell you about a couple that changed me. bodhisatta said: i recommend common sense and figuring it out. These are the TEKs I use. They're all as cheap and easy as possible, just like your mom.
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KThunderland
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Re: Would this Aerus Lux Guardian be usable as a Flow Hood? [Re: 36fuckin5]
#23569305 - 08/23/16 02:08 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Tehe lwts not talk about that but yeah the moneys there and hoods are cheapwr now than ever (at 600! No less) its about the same as making a really good one. But its worked. .it might be a case of it works till it dont, im not saying you are protwcting the tc badge im saying you are offer the best most reproducable advice..thats what science is. I was originally remarking on how i would have grabbed it (when really it was ignorant to say as i dont know the real specs of it)
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KThunderland
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Re: Would this Aerus Lux Guardian be usable as a Flow Hood? [Re: KThunderland]
#23569312 - 08/23/16 02:12 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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The pvc frame was the idea behind the 2x2s (paited with pva paint and framwdnoutside the plastic...a glove bag with a frame to give an idea of how it started...i would post pics but im really paranoid about op. security. As crazy as that might seem the potential info dump years ago really got to me.
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Re: Would this Aerus Lux Guardian be usable as a Flow Hood? [Re: Grandmother]
#23572576 - 08/24/16 11:25 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Grandmother said: I found this Aerus Lux Guardian Air HEPA filter + Germicidal UV lamp air filter system at a thrift shop for $40, after digging around online I found out that they sell new for $1500, so I snatched it up in a heart beat. All it needs is a replacement filter which is pretty cheap. Do you guys think this will be usable as a flow hood if I clean it thoroughly? It's supposed to be rated as a Class II Medical Device.

hey you got a good deal on that for sure. how is it working? how much is a filter? ron k.
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