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TubularPsycadelia
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Taking plain, un colonized spores to the wild?
#23560079 - 08/20/16 02:15 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have read about starting the cakes and burying them in the ground, but I think about every mushroom growing in the wild and how their reproduction is based solely on them dropping spores and the spores starting to grow on their own. With that I am wondering is there any reason if one were to order a spore syringe online and then just take it and injecting a bit into the ground here and there, where mushrooms are growing in abundance. Is there any reason that this would not work at possibly finding that variety sprouting up where you put it a couple months later?
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Pastywhyte
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For cubes put the spores in the water trough. Check the manure a month later. For woodlovers make a slurry and spray on woodchip piles. Come back in 2 years and you might be lucky.
Injecting spores into the ground will not work 99.999999% of the time.
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TubularPsycadelia
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Re: Taking plain, un colonized spores to the wild? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23560150 - 08/20/16 02:53 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Interesting.
So what if you take some shrooms you find in the wild and shake some spores out from the caps and place some caps on the ground. Are you increasing chances of them growing in that area more?
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bodhisatta 
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Probably not
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dankington
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Well, judging from the answer you got, it may work .000000001% of the time or so…
What he said about a slurry is more along the lines of what you should do. Take a few stem butts from your specimens and blend them up with some water. Spray that on some nice woodchips in a lower, shaded spot. At least that'd work for the woodlovers.
Like he said, for cubensis, you should just put the spores in the water trough the cattle drink from.
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Re: Taking plain, un colonized spores to the wild? [Re: dankington]
#23560202 - 08/20/16 03:09 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
dankington said:
Like he said, for cubensis, you should just put the spores in the water trough the cattle drink from.
I know this is a real thing but it's still fucking funny. Props to the genius that figured that one out.
More props to the guy that figures out how to counter-act the fungicide treatment the cows get nowadays.
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Re: Taking plain, un colonized spores to the wild? [Re: dankington]
#23560265 - 08/20/16 03:28 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Years ago someone posted on here about going out to the pasture and finding a fair amount of shrooms and then taking a blender and making a slurry with some of them and spraying it back on the field.
They posted back with pictures showing all the shrooms they found a couple weeks later, but we could never really determine if any of the shrooms grew from the slurry or not being that cubes were already growing in that particular field.

The reason we grow indoors is because we can control the environment. Optimal conditions produce optimal results. I have never seen any field picked cubes that were even half as potent as cubes grown indoors on nutrient rich substrates under optimal conditions.
I could be wrong because I've only come across field harvested cubes a handful of times, but it seems like you needed at least an eighth to even feel them, whereas an eighth from a properly maintained indoor grow would give me a much more substantial buzz. Also now that I'm thinking about it the field picked cubes were in all likelihood not preserved expeditiously and professionally like you would assume that they should be. I have never had the pleasure of enjoying fresh picked field cubes. I imagine they would be comparable to freshly picked shrooms from your home grow.
Maybe someone with some experience with both will chime in with a little bit of first hand knowledge.
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Kenetic
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Re: Taking plain, un colonized spores to the wild? [Re: george castanza]
#23560297 - 08/20/16 03:42 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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To (hopefully) compliment your argument I'd like to add that growing indoors is much better than outdoors because when you grow indoors, you are providing the mycelium with a non-competitive and ideal environment for them to grow, versus outdoors where survival of the fittest is the only thing that matters.
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Edited by Kenetic (08/21/16 09:28 AM)
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Re: Taking plain, un colonized spores to the wild? [Re: Kenetic]
#23560313 - 08/20/16 03:50 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Wild prints are genetically heterozygous so potency should be expected to be lower than a stabilized linage with homozygous genes
Though even in cubensis varieties that are stabilized there remains a good amount of variation in potency
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Re: Taking plain, un colonized spores to the wild? [Re: bodhisatta]
#23560355 - 08/20/16 04:02 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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what if one sprayed some good LC into the ground? or into trees or chips or whatever :P
would it just be the same?
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TubularPsycadelia
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Re: Taking plain, un colonized spores to the wild? [Re: vikingleif]
#23561522 - 08/20/16 09:56 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I am very interested in growing indoors. I sometimes wonder where people on this forum are from, in the sense that some of you may be doing this all legally, whereas for me in the USA this is not a legal process. But yea I know plenty of folk here are not in legal areas. Anyway i have been having luck finding cincts outdoors and they were reasonably potent for the simplicity of it all. I may wind up getting more devoted to the whole process and I am just trying to gather information. As much as I love doing things like this, none of it's really worth it if you wind up in prison or out of a job.
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george castanza
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I guess you will just have to come to terms with your fears and desires.
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