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Psylocibin treatment for dying?
    #23560020 - 08/20/16 01:45 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I have read that Psylocibin is given for dying as a way to decrease anxiety and increase positivity.
I just wonder how can you trip when you are so sick, physically.
Most of us won't like to trip when we are sick, it doesn't make sense, and will probably end as a bad trip.


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Re: Psylocibin treatment for dying? [Re: jivangilad]
    #23560371 - 08/20/16 04:06 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Not everyone who is dying feels extremely physically sick all the time.


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Re: Psylocibin treatment for dying? [Re: jivangilad]
    #23561438 - 08/20/16 09:32 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

There a was time I was so addicted to shrooms that I would trip even if I had the flu, the trip itself was really enjoyable, I laughed for 30 minutes straight, very intense euphoria


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Re: Psylocibin treatment for dying? [Re: Aureus]
    #23561555 - 08/20/16 10:14 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Dying / being diagnosed as terminal does not always = sick and in pain.

IE: you feel fine but the doctor gets a test result back and diagnoses you as terminal.. says you have six months tops.

I can see pyschedelics being u sefull in learning tii cope / prepare


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Re: Psylocibin treatment for dying? [Re: Aureus]
    #23561752 - 08/20/16 11:43 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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There a was time I was so addicted to shrooms that I would trip even if I had the flu, the trip itself was really enjoyable, I laughed for 30 minutes straight, very intense euphoria




You were not addicted to shrooms


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Re: Psylocibin treatment for dying? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23562147 - 08/21/16 05:21 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

In the beginning I would trip every 3 days, sometimes 2 days in a row, but it was only in the first month, nowdays I rarely trip.

I think this is common with most beginners, they are fascinated and naive.


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Re: Psylocibin treatment for dying? [Re: Aureus]
    #23562394 - 08/21/16 08:55 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I used to trip 2x a month now its like 2x a year.
I feel like each time -  your mind changes a little
So when you get to where you want to be mentally
Youre desire to trip decreases -  Shrooms are a learning tool
To be respected not abused.

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Re: Psylocibin treatment for dying? [Re: Aureus]
    #23562795 - 08/21/16 11:45 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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In the beginning I would trip every 3 days, sometimes 2 days in a row, but it was only in the first month, nowdays I rarely trip.

I think this is common with most beginners, they are fascinated and naive.





That doesn't even come close to addiction bro.

Addiction literally means you cannot go a day without it.


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Re: Psylocibin treatment for dying? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23562914 - 08/21/16 12:36 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Learning that you have a terminal illness and then dealing with symptoms and treatments is a total mindfuck. Your entire perception of life and the future changes on it's own. Tripping must be a whole different thing. I've read/heard that the biggest benefit is that people stop fearing death.

My dad died of cancer at age 90 and towards the end all he talked about was fearing death. I tried to get him to trip on shrooms but he wasn't interested. Too bad, because he was a retired psychiatrist and he would have found it interesting. He was in practice back when LSD was legal and he remembered getting literature in the mail and reading about LSD trials in the medical publications while they were going on.


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Re: Psylocibin treatment for dying? [Re: Universe]
    #23562932 - 08/21/16 12:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

My mother was also a psychologist and she too is afraid of dying. Hopefully I can convince her to give psilocybin a shot.


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Re: Psylocibin treatment for dying? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23563039 - 08/21/16 01:23 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I have zero problem with the concept of tripping one's way out the door.  Since shrooms I have a different view regarding the life, death and the continuity of the universe.  Dying, for me, would not be a passing but a passage, tripping the in-flight movie to hold us until we reach our destination,.


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Re: Psylocibin treatment for dying? [Re: jivangilad]
    #23563097 - 08/21/16 01:58 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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jivangilad said:
I have read that Psylocibin is given for dying as a way to decrease anxiety and increase positivity.
I just wonder how can you trip when you are so sick, physically.
Most of us won't like to trip when we are sick, it doesn't make sense, and will probably end as a bad trip.




I don't know anything about psychedelic therapy for terminally ill people, but I can tell you that when a person starts hospice care they pretty much get a green light for drugs to treat pain and anxiety along with any other discomfort they're having. Becoming dependent on a drug is no longer a concern. It all depends on how good the doctor is. Your average cancer patient is given plenty of benzos and morphine. I guess you'd have to skip the benzos for a couple days if you wanted to trip.


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Re: Psylocibin treatment for dying? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23563881 - 08/21/16 07:21 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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In the beginning I would trip every 3 days, sometimes 2 days in a row, but it was only in the first month, nowdays I rarely trip.

I think this is common with most beginners, they are fascinated and naive.





That doesn't even come close to addiction bro.

Addiction literally means you cannot go a day without it.




No it doesn't. Addiction means you use something excessively despite its negative consequences on your life. THere are plenty of crackheads, meth addicts and alcoholics who are bingers and don't use those substances every single day, yet continue to use them excessively despite it destroying their health, jobs, finances, careers, freedom, etc.

Are you saying these people are not suffering from addiction?


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Re: Psylocibin treatment for dying? [Re: Peyote Road]
    #23563953 - 08/21/16 07:42 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

That's just a bad habit. Addiction means you cannot go a day without it, addiction means you need it and addiction comes after dependecne and if you're to the point of dependence that means you have trouble going just a day without it. Most addicts have trouble going even just a half day without it. Addiction means you have trouble stopping even though you know you should.
People who have a dependance sure they may get some weird feelings when they stop using the drug but at that point they usually don't have trouble stopping at least psychologically. Addiction comes after dependance and dependance comes after everyday use.  I mean you may go without the drug for a day or two every once in a while but for the most part it has to be every single day for someone to become dependent on a substance and then eventually addicted.


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