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two new books on cultivation look interesting on amazon * 1
    #23559912 - 08/20/16 12:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

in an attempt at being complete i searched amazon today for any new mushroom cultivation books (i have an excellent library {hope the genius doesnt get mad at me for saying that} on a great variety of subjects), and i did find two that i ordered. one will not be available until the end of november. one is called "Magic mushroom growers guide simple steps to bulk cuyltivation" by principium quaesitor and it only cost about $11 or $12 with shipping and i bought a used copy, and then one that i preordered called the "psilocybin mushroom bible: the definitive guide to growing and using magic mushrooms" and the author is dr, mandrake who is a phd in mushroom botany and a supposedly well informed person and also a woman disciple of his that is a photographer and they live in san francisco. it is on sale if you preorder it and the list was $30 and i paid 40 per cent off with free shipping but i have to wait until the end of november as it has not been released yet. also that other book was written last year. i also ordered another book on 9/11 by david ray griffin entitled: "ten years later-when state crimes against democracy succeed" and i have his first book on the same subject entitled "pearl harbor revisited" and another also about the obama adminstrations handling of 9/11. :flyagaric::jah:

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Re: two new books on cultivation look interesting on amazon [Re: paracelsusgold]
    #23559937 - 08/20/16 01:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

waste of money use search engine on recent or TC much more valuable info there....genius... I really am just kidding ron k... No hard feelings appreciate your further input.....

Edited by theGODSmademedoit (08/20/16 01:10 PM)

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Re: two new books on cultivation look interesting on amazon [Re: theGODSmademedoit]
    #23559967 - 08/20/16 01:22 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Not a waste of money for the scholar and collector, I look forward to seeing what you have to say about these, and also look forward to hearing more about your extensive library, not just mycology:super:

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Re: two new books on cultivation look interesting on amazon [Re: Rooster Cogburn]
    #23560231 - 08/20/16 03:17 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

The psilocybin mushroom Bible isn't what I would call definitive.

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Re: two new books on cultivation look interesting on amazon [Re: Rooster Cogburn] * 1
    #23560244 - 08/20/16 03:22 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Not a waste of money for the scholar and collector, I look forward to seeing what you have to say about these, and also look forward to hearing more about your extensive library, not just mycology:super:


rooster i really do have an excellent library and thanks and also besides scholarly information, i am more than sure that these men must know a thing or two that i can study and apply to my work here in mycology.to me the cost of those books is insignificant compared to that. regardless of what the genius has implied directly about me, i am a very manual type person and i have a workshop with many many tools of all kinds and whats more i know how to use them and i do daily here. we are vegans and we are attempting to grow much of our food here and in this pursuit i work daily and have for many years at this endeavor not only at this place but my place in nw arkansas also. i study some alchemists that were really alchemists and i study Paramahansa Yogananda. i am sure you are aware that alchemy was something that actually some few folks, the most famous in society then, could accomplish this GREAT WORK and LOST ART the greatest mystery of all mysteries on the earthplane. also ra schwaller delubicz was a great towering genius and i study his works like temple of man. thanks for your support.:flyagaric::jah:

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Re: two new books on cultivation look interesting on amazon [Re: bodhisatta] * 2
    #23560251 - 08/20/16 03:24 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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The psilocybin mushroom Bible isn't what I would call definitive.



dear tc have you seen this book already?

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Re: two new books on cultivation look interesting on amazon [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23560264 - 08/20/16 03:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I'm always open to good references to professional techniques.  Thanks ron.

There is a lot of useful info on here but it's scattered and unstructured and ghetto.  But it works well (obviously).  Nothing wrong with learning how college-educated professionals get shit done.

Edit:  Alchemy (however it's spelled).....  maybe it's possible.  Gold is only three electrons heavier than lead.  If it was possible though a lot of merchants would be pissed!  maybe a conspiracy.....lol


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Re: two new books on cultivation look interesting on amazon [Re: paracelsusgold]
    #23560273 - 08/20/16 03:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

No it's not out. But if they have techniques that outperform ours I think we would have heard of them. So how is that definitive.

Growers like pastywhyte are pulling better BE then ever has with cubensis so i would love to see that get shown up but I'm 99% sure that book won't be putting any of us to shame

the cultivation methods research labs and universities use are not exactly cutting edge high yield.


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Re: two new books on cultivation look interesting on amazon [Re: Kenetic]
    #23560785 - 08/20/16 06:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I'm always open to good references to professional techniques.  Thanks ron.

There is a lot of useful info on here but it's scattered and unstructured and ghetto.  But it works well (obviously).  Nothing wrong with learning how college-educated professionals get shit done.ed).....  maybe it's possible.  Gold is only three electrons heavier than lead.  If it was possible though a lot of merchants would be pissed!  maybe a conspiracy.....lol


dear kenetic good to hear from you again. please believe me when i emphatically tell you that the GREAT WORK was indeed performed by a very few of the most gifted philosophers and artists and magicians in our past and they all did it with the blessings of the CREATOR since it is a spiritual activity. this much i have learned from my years of study. it should be considered to be a lost art and science. the society today is too far removed from nature to understand such things as sacred science. the mental ground has been altered. we see the first alchemical works coming out of ancient egypt perhaps 4000bc with the works of hermes trismegistus and the smaragdine tablets. it is absolutely fascinating history when studied. also i agree with your evaluation of the mycological books, etc.. please stay in touch.:flyagaric::jah:

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Re: two new books on cultivation look interesting on amazon [Re: paracelsusgold]
    #23560902 - 08/20/16 06:58 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

P.Stammets is leading authority on this subject. If anybody has any other great writers i would be delighted to see them here. Never could find anything advanced in book section...3 P.S. books are about all i could find on subject of growing gourmet mushroms,except fo some stupid booklets and old books..

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Re: two new books on cultivation look interesting on amazon [Re: paracelsusgold]
    #23560919 - 08/20/16 07:03 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

From the biblical land of khem comes alchemy and the emerald tablet the philosophers stone from hermes also known as the eygptian god Thoth....mercury sulphur salt...

Edited by theGODSmademedoit (08/20/16 07:25 PM)

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Re: two new books on cultivation look interesting on amazon [Re: theGODSmademedoit]
    #23561080 - 08/20/16 07:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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From the biblical land of khem comes alchemy and the emerald tablet the philosophers stone from hermes also known as the eygptian god Thoth....mercury sulphur salt...



dear god i think i named you right-on, the genius/poet:flyagaric::jah::jah::jah:

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Re: two new books on cultivation look interesting on amazon [Re: paracelsusgold]
    #23561119 - 08/20/16 07:56 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Let me know if there is some useflness of foil in those texts Ron K.


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Re: two new books on cultivation look interesting on amazon [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23561137 - 08/20/16 08:00 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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No it's not out. But if they have techniques that outperform ours I think we would have heard of them. So how is that definitive.

Growers like pastywhyte are pulling better BE then ever has with cubensis so i would love to see that get shown up but I'm 99% sure that book won't be putting any of us to shame

the cultivation methods research labs and universities use are not exactly cutting edge high yield.




i understand completely what you are saying, however the books cannot hurt anyone, and only supplement our framework of reference. i know what you mean. i experimented for years. they never tell you how to do the most important stuff and you have to figure it out. i have learned alot already on this site and i want to apply it all and i will if i live that long. i am working on it and then i can know for myself. the books didnt cost that much and are new and longer. its one aspect. i read alot of stuff. i am reading 30 books now. i have no friends anymore, just my wife, and i tend to get lost in my work here. :flyagaric::jah:

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Re: two new books on cultivation look interesting on amazon [Re: paracelsusgold]
    #23561166 - 08/20/16 08:07 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Quote:

Trusted Cultivator said:
No it's not out. But if they have techniques that outperform ours I think we would have heard of them. So how is that definitive.

Growers like pastywhyte are pulling better BE then ever has with cubensis so i would love to see that get shown up but I'm 99% sure that book won't be putting any of us to shame

the cultivation methods research labs and universities use are not exactly cutting edge high yield.




i understand completely what you are saying, however the books cannot hurt anyone, and only supplement our framework of reference. i know what you mean. i experimented for years. they never tell you how to do the most important stuff and you have to figure it out. i have learned alot already on this site and i want to apply it all and i will if i live that long. i am working on it and then i can know for myself. the books didnt cost that much and are new and longer. its one aspect. i read alot of stuff. i am reading 30 books now. i have no friends anymore, just my wife, and i tend to get lost in my work here. :flyagaric::jah:


almost forgot to mention my 6 dogs and 3 cats that i take good care of here. and the birds, alot of big birds come to our once huge pond that is drying up due to the heat and drought here in sw georgia......:blush::mushroom2:

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Re: two new books on cultivation look interesting on amazon [Re: paracelsusgold]
    #23561347 - 08/20/16 08:54 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Quote:

Trusted Cultivator said:
No it's not out. But if they have techniques that outperform ours I think we would have heard of them. So how is that definitive.

Growers like pastywhyte are pulling better BE then ever has with cubensis so i would love to see that get shown up but I'm 99% sure that book won't be putting any of us to shame

the cultivation methods research labs and universities use are not exactly cutting edge high yield.




i understand completely what you are saying, however the books cannot hurt anyone, and only supplement our framework of reference. i know what you mean. i experimented for years. they never tell you how to do the most important stuff and you have to figure it out. i have learned alot already on this site and i want to apply it all and i will if i live that long. i am working on it and then i can know for myself. the books didnt cost that much and are new and longer. its one aspect. i read alot of stuff. i am reading 30 books now. i have no friends anymore, just my wife, and i tend to get lost in my work here. :flyagaric::jah:



It's true they don't hurt. Paul might be the authority on a lot of things but cubensis has been improved on by hobby home cultivators. I'm sure Paul could school any of us on growing some turkey tail and a lot of other species of actives. But the cutting edge of yield and efficiency, for cubensis, is here on the forums "proving ground / test grounds"

People just need to know to take it with a grain of salt. For people like you and I can read it and still do what works best for us. For a new grower the book is gospel and it can hold them back from getting the most out of the efforts by being able to think outside the book

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Re: two new books on cultivation look interesting on amazon [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23562241 - 08/21/16 06:58 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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paracelsusgold said:
Quote:

Trusted Cultivator said:
No it's not out. But if they have techniques that outperform ours I think we would have heard of them. So how is that definitive.

Growers like pastywhyte are pulling better BE then ever has with cubensis so i would love to see that get shown up but I'm 99% sure that book won't be putting any of us to shame

the cultivation methods research labs and universities use are not exactly cutting edge high yield.




i understand completely what you are saying, however the books cannot hurt anyone, and only supplement our framework of reference. i know what you mean. i experimented for years. they never tell you how to do the most important stuff and you have to figure it out. i have learned alot already on this site and i want to apply it all and i will if i live that long. i am working on it and then i can know for myself. the books didnt cost that much and are new and longer. its one aspect. i read alot of stuff. i am reading 30 books now. i have no friends anymore, just my wife, and i tend to get lost in my work here. :flyagaric::jah:



It's true they don't hurt. Paul might be the authority on a lot of things but cubensis has been improved on by hobby home cultivators. I'm sure Paul could school any of us on growing some turkey tail and a lot of other species of actives. But the cutting edge of yield and efficiency, for cubensis, is here on the forums "proving ground / test grounds"

People just need to know to take it with a grain of salt. For people like you and I can read it and still do what works best for us. For a new grower the book is gospel and it can hold them back from getting the most out of the efforts by being able to think outside the book



well said tc. well said. life is a series of refinements ad infinitum. i am working on building my new facilites in a small house that is on this property close to the one we live in. it needs quite a bit of work on the outside but the inside is pretty good. i am working in the kitchen/lr now fixing a water leak. i still have alot of my mycological supplies in boxes. the first mushroom i want to try to grow is the king stropharia. i could use some prints. i am trying to grow wild primitive strains of tobacco and i can tell you it is not easy to grow these various primitive strains. i found some unusual pure white mushrooms growing out of one of our dogwoods and i photographed it. i think i will try to order some amanita muscarias online somewhere? i also know alot about herbs. i could use some good herb seeds. i am located in a remote spot and surrounded by pecan orchards and woods and we live on a sand road that is back in the woods 7 miles from a small clean place called camilla which is about 40 min from albany. we see no neighbors whatsoever. there is an 80 acre hunting place right in back of our house. it is bottomland sort of and a creek goes thru the property. i have a news story from april 1986 about my mycological activities then and it was on the front page of the gannett paper then sunday edition i think and thats when people still read newspapers and the title of it is : "ex businessmans mission is mushrooms". i would post it somehow if i knew how. anyhow please stay in touch. ron kay :flyagaric::jah:

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Re: two new books on cultivation look interesting on amazon [Re: paracelsusgold]
    #23562638 - 08/21/16 10:48 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

thanks for the tip

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Re: two new books on cultivation look interesting on amazon [Re: bokaj]
    #23638227 - 09/12/16 10:54 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I'm into collecting books, not that I have a lot, but they're fun. That being said TMC was the first I ever owned.  The Psilocybin Mushroom Handbook will always be one of my favorites.  The Magic Mushroom Growers Guide had some good info, and I tried to find discrepancies. Overall not bad, but not exactly "the future" or anything new. Perhaps to someone just starting out it might be useful. I didn't spend any more than a few days looking at it; now it's just part of the collection.  The new release in October will hopefully be interesting. But in all truth, you can acquire so much more knowledge here. I wouldn't mind seeing a book made from the best of methodologies from here with the most up to date consensus on what is considered viable information.

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Re: two new books on cultivation look interesting on amazon [Re: Hekate]
    #23682791 - 09/27/16 10:28 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Face it - books are better. This medium is from like 1995. Great info on here but you have to dig like crazy to get it. Message boards? Cmon. Its a great historical perspective on the evolution of methods but this is a seriously goofball way to go about it. Uploading pics that take forever? Joke

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