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Invisibleparacelsusgold

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amanita muscaria
    #23558768 - 08/19/16 11:38 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

dear folks i used to collect the amanita muscaria in large quantities in upstate ny and it was yellowish red there. i made honey balls out of them. i enjoyed them. they have a rich ethnobotanical history. my mentor steve peele could grow them. anyone out there have any experiences with them?:flyagaric:


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: paracelsusgold]
    #23558808 - 08/19/16 11:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Have not eaten NYork gly agaric. Have eaten Eugene, Oregon picked near the house.  Very interesting experiences.

What is this honey ball?  How did you enjoy them?


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: WhoManBeing]
    #23558827 - 08/20/16 12:05 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I have to question your claim that your mentor could grow them. To my knowledge, a method for cultivating them has not been developed.


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: Peyote Road]
    #23558844 - 08/20/16 12:13 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

You can grow them if you have a host tree


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: WhoManBeing]
    #23558849 - 08/20/16 12:15 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Ohhhh....  Imagine so can be done. What do you know about growing them?


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: Peyote Road]
    #23558851 - 08/20/16 12:16 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I have to question your claim that your mentor could grow them. To my knowledge, a method for cultivating them has not been developed.



my mentor was steve peele and he was the owner of the florida mycology research center in pensacola and he is reti:flyagaric::jah:red now and he was the only person for awhile given permission by the govt to grow psilocybe shrooms and he could grow the amanita muscaria believe me :flyagaric::jah:


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: paracelsusgold]
    #23558852 - 08/20/16 12:17 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

How did he do it?


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: Peyote Road]
    #23558856 - 08/20/16 12:21 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

You drop the spores around a pine tree lol


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: Peyote Road]
    #23558862 - 08/20/16 12:24 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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How did he do it?



i really cannot answer that because he never explained it to me. he is an odd duck to say the least. i have known him for many years and i do not communicate with him anymore, although i certainly could, because he tends to annoy me and he is sort of an asshole i hate to say but he was not always like that. i have communicated with him as recently as three months ago perhaps but i am not intending to again because of his rude and unfriendly gestures towards me????:frown:


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: MushroomAreTheKey]
    #23558872 - 08/20/16 12:27 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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You can grow them if you have a host tree


most likely this would be a good way to start:flyagaric::jah:


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: paracelsusgold]
    #23559145 - 08/20/16 04:53 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

As far as I know noone has been able to fruit Amanita muscaria in a lab or growbox so far.
They do need a host tree as they fruit only in symbiosis with roots of birches or palm trees.

I've also read some people have been able to grow Amanita muscaria mycelium on agar, and tried to abadon it in nature next to some host tree. Don't know if anyone was ever succesfull to fruit some, though.

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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: Pandemoon]
    #23561013 - 08/20/16 07:30 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Pandemoon said:
As far as I know noone has been able to fruit Amanita muscaria in a lab or growbox so far.
They do need a host tree as they fruit only in symbiosis with roots of birches or palm trees.

I've also read some people have been able to grow Amanita muscaria mycelium on agar, and tried to abadon it in nature next to some host tree. Don't know if anyone was ever succesfull to fruit some, though.

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Pandemoon said:
As far as I know noone has been able to fruit Amanita muscaria in a lab or growbox so far.
They do need a host tree as they fruit only in symbiosis with roots of birches or palm trees.

I've also read some people have been able to grow Amanita muscaria mycelium on agar, and tried to abadon it in nature next to some host tree. Don't know if anyone was ever succesfull to fruit some, though.

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hey panda nice to hear from you. hows the weather in germany? my me ntor steve peele owner of the florida mycology research center in pensacola fruited it and i know he did. it requires sensitivity. i see you provide an extract. is it muscimol? the mycorhizzal (spelling?) relationship with the roots of certain trees does not make it impossible to grow just more challenging. steve peele was a very great mushroom grower believe me. he is retired now and still lives in pensacola. you can write him and tell him you are a friend of mr. ron. peace and light  brother: stay in touch: :flyagaric::jah:


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: paracelsusgold]
    #23561074 - 08/20/16 07:43 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I love smoking amanitas.  Its real nice with the ganj....

No really.  It is warm.  Never liked to eat it as much.  I am more about the psi containing mush.

Smoking it is nice.  Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.  The skin of an A.  V formosa is bad ass.  Kinda weird too.  As one would expect.

Never really inrested me so much, though it is it's own unique thing.  I am upset that salvia is illegal.  We need more awesome leaf material.

Smoked amanita is very subtle.


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: fractalsybolism]
    #23561191 - 08/20/16 08:14 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I love smoking amanitas.  Its real nice with the ganj....

No really.  It is warm.  Never liked to eat it as much.  I am more about the psi containing mush.

Smoking it is nice.  Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.  The skin of an A.  V formosa is bad ass.  Kinda weird too.  As one would expect.

Never really inrested me so much, though it is it's own unique thing.  I am upset that salvia is illegal.  We need more awesome leaf material.

Smoked amanita is very subtle.


when did they make salvia illegal? i am scared of it sort of. it tries to take me into it. its powerful stuff. i am going to order some amanitas soon if i can and i will try that recipe. stay in touch:flyagaric::jah:


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: paracelsusgold]
    #23561370 - 08/20/16 09:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Amanita is probably the strangest ethnobotanical I've ever taken. Whenever i consume amanita formosa,and var muscaria i get sweats and chills for the first few hours of the experience which eventually after a few hours ends and leaves me in a slight psychedelic headspace. Whenever I've used pantherina I'm able to consume about 1/2 to a full cap and i have full on CEV's absolutely no side effects and i'm stumbling around like i'm drunk. very strange.


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: paracelsusgold]
    #23561381 - 08/20/16 09:08 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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fractalsybolism said:
I love smoking amanitas.  Its real nice with the ganj....

No really.  It is warm.  Never liked to eat it as much.  I am more about the psi containing mush.

Smoking it is nice.  Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.  The skin of an A.  V formosa is bad ass.  Kinda weird too.  As one would expect.

Never really inrested me so much, though it is it's own unique thing.  I am upset that salvia is illegal.  We need more awesome leaf material.

Smoked amanita is very subtle.


when did they make salvia illegal? i am scared of it sort of. it tries to take me into it. its powerful stuff. i am going to order some amanitas soon if i can and i will try that recipe. stay in touch:flyagaric::jah:





Those anti-christ superstars made salvia largely illegal everywhere in the US.  I know that much besides it being so very illegal in mos6t other places in this world.

The leaf was enough.  The extracts are best but made the leaf easy to regulate, or ban.  Because the people who write these laws are law professionals, and disgusting people.

Like kratom.  They ban anything that works and they will patent it later when they get done poisoning people with other things they make billions of dollars from.  You just watch.


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: MushroomMomo]
    #23561388 - 08/20/16 09:13 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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MushroomMomo said:
Amanita is probably the strangest ethnobotanical I've ever taken. Whenever i consume amanita formosa,and var muscaria i get sweats and chills for the first few hours of the experience which eventually after a few hours ends and leaves me in a slight psychedelic headspace. Whenever I've used pantherina I'm able to consume about 1/2 to a full cap and i have full on CEV's absolutely no side effects and i'm stumbling around like i'm drunk. very strange.



It is so very much weird as this person is explaining.

Not the ideal psychedelic, but it is something very real, sweaty, and serious.  I only smoke it with weed ever after taking some full doses orally.  It is a great smoke.  The skin off the cap is divine.


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: fractalsybolism]
    #23562217 - 08/21/16 06:38 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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MushroomMomo said:
Amanita is probably the strangest ethnobotanical I've ever taken. Whenever i consume amanita formosa,and var muscaria i get sweats and chills for the first few hours of the experience which eventually after a few hours ends and leaves me in a slight psychedelic headspace. Whenever I've used pantherina I'm able to consume about 1/2 to a full cap and i have full on CEV's absolutely no side effects and i'm stumbling around like i'm drunk. very strange.



It is so very much weird as this person is explaining.

Not the ideal psychedelic, but it is something very real, sweaty, and serious.  I only smoke it with weed ever after taking some full doses orally.  It is a great smoke.  The skin off the cap is divine.



momo i thought the pantherina was deadly if ingested. whats a cev?:flyagaric::jah:


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: paracelsusgold]
    #23562295 - 08/21/16 07:43 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

A.pantherina is no more toxic than A.muscaria, I read native americans prefer pantherina as it's said to be stronger and less nauseating.

CEV means closed eye visions, it's the opposite to OEV (open eye visions /visuals).

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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: fractalsybolism]
    #23562869 - 08/21/16 12:15 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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fractalsybolism said:
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paracelsusgold said:
Quote:

fractalsybolism said:
I love smoking amanitas.  Its real nice with the ganj....

No really.  It is warm.  Never liked to eat it as much.  I am more about the psi containing mush.

Smoking it is nice.  Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.  The skin of an A.  V formosa is bad ass.  Kinda weird too.  As one would expect.

Never really inrested me so much, though it is it's own unique thing.  I am upset that salvia is illegal.  We need more awesome leaf material.

Smoked amanita is very subtle.


when did they make salvia illegal? i am scared of it sort of. it tries to take me into it. its powerful stuff. i am going to order some amanitas soon if i can and i will try that recipe. stay in touch:flyagaric::jah:





Those anti-christ superstars made salvia largely illegal everywhere in the US.  I know that much besides it being so very illegal in mos6t other places in this world.

The leaf was enough.  The extracts are best but made the leaf easy to regulate, or ban.  Because the people who write these laws are law professionals, and disgusting people.

Like kratom.  They ban anything that works and they will patent it later when they get done poisoning people with other things they make billions of dollars from.  You just watch.



dear fractal so one cannot buy salvia online anymore apparently. this must have happened lately because i think i saw it for sale on one of the sites advertising here/ world seed i think? :flyagaric::jah:


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