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KRATOM + LSD
    #23557404 - 08/19/16 04:24 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Im on vacation in texas and i recently visited a headshop to pick up a new piece. I noticed they had Kratom in stock . Labelled warm and fuzzy. I have heard of kratom before but am mostly ignorant to the substance. Im wanting to trip when i get home on 100-150 ug LSD. Has anyone had experience with Kratom alone ? How about LSD & Kratomas a combination? I tend to get anxious on Lsd comeups and am wondering if the Kratom may be able to assist.

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Re: KRATOM + LSD [Re: Methodzx860]
    #23557454 - 08/19/16 04:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I've heard Kratom from smoke shops suck for the most part. Usually the real stuff is online at least from what I understand.

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Re: KRATOM + LSD [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23557502 - 08/19/16 04:58 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I've heard Kratom from smoke shops suck for the most part. Usually the real stuff is online at least from what I understand.



Nah i disagree. I am well acquainted with kratom (daily user) and in my experience the shop kratom is usually fine... BUT the prices are outrageous.

I havent ever mixed kratom with psychs.. idk hat it would synergize very well.

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Re: KRATOM + LSD [Re: ak47myth]
    #23557507 - 08/19/16 04:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

If you are a kratom nub i dont recommend mixing the two. It would suck to be coming up on lsd while the kratom could possibly have you feeling nauseous if you use too much.

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Re: KRATOM + LSD [Re: ak47myth]
    #23557624 - 08/19/16 05:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

IME literally nothing eases the come up of acid or shrooms not even weed.

I mean maybe some opiates but really one should just deal with the LSD come up like normal or they just shouldn't take LSD.
Maybe an opiate can ease the come up and Kratom may work on a few opioid receptors but Kratom's effects can very so much.

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Re: KRATOM + LSD [Re: ak47myth]
    #23557638 - 08/19/16 05:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I've been microdosing psiclocybin and kratom together lately and it's great - I highly recommend it. .3g shrooms, about 1g kratom does the job for me. I'm totally in control, feeling positive and upbeat.  Smoke some weed, do a shot of tequila and jump in the pool on a hot summer day. That's what I call FUN :cool:

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Re: KRATOM + LSD [Re: Universe]
    #23557808 - 08/19/16 06:24 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I use kratom all the time and have used it with both cubes and a few different lysergamides.  It has the ability to take a little bit of the edge off of a rough come up without dulling the trip.  However its effects in this case feel fairly weak compared to kratom without potent psyches.

When combined it seems very obvious that the psilocybin or a lysergamide is in an entirely different league of potency and power.  A solid dose of psychedelics can just completely blow away the little kratom buzz like it isn't even there.

All in all it doesn't seem to hurt to combine them, but I would expect the kratom to be largely over powered by the LSD.

Katom is nice stuff no doubt.  However when placed into the mix with most any proper and potent drug it usually becomes quite obvious that it is a relatively mild manner herbal product by comparison.


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Re: KRATOM + LSD [Re: AllGreyThumbs]
    #23557882 - 08/19/16 06:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I usually deal with the comeup with weed. Sometimes though it potentiates the trip. Ive heard good things about Kratom so i decided to try it 1st hand. I bought 40g of warm fuzzy. I think ill try it alone 1st so that i know what im dealing with here. I dont have a scale on hand and wanna take about 1.5 grams. Any suggestions on how to get a good measurement ? Also how often does Kratom last ? How long before tolerance wears off ? I would like to dose today & tomorrow.

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Re: KRATOM + LSD [Re: Methodzx860]
    #23557945 - 08/19/16 07:07 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I dunno... if you like kratom it's great to trip with. But it does nauseate some people. I'd say try the kratom on it's own and if you like it eat then it with your LSD. And have some more on the comedown. I have generally gone with red vein stuff for a more mellowing effect on the trip... but I've honestly never felt overstimulated from green or white vein.

In my experience though, headshop kratom does suck. I've gotten it a couple of times to ease withdrawal and compared to good kratom from a reliable online vendor it was worthless. That was years ago so maybe it's better now. The fact that your kratom is labelled "warm fuzzy" instead of a proper kratom name doesn't really inspire confidence though. Try it out and see how you feel!


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Re: KRATOM + LSD [Re: FriendlyFace]
    #23557976 - 08/19/16 07:17 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Kratom is great for LSD come downs where you can't sleep. I used to take it when I had been trippy for like 13 hours and it would make the comedown a fantastic warm, comfortable thing. Don't overdo it though or you'll get very sick and projectile vomit all over your bathroom. Take it from me, I've been there. Work up slowly until you know how much Kratom is good for you.

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Re: KRATOM + LSD [Re: FriendlyFace]
    #23557981 - 08/19/16 07:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Nice. Well im completely new to the plant. They did have maeng de red and other types but idk the warm fuzzy caught my attention. Seems like a reputable shop. Guys there spoke highly of the product. Whats a typical dose for you ?

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Re: KRATOM + LSD [Re: Methodzx860]
    #23558010 - 08/19/16 07:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I usually deal with the comeup with weed. Sometimes though it potentiates the trip. Ive heard good things about Kratom so i decided to try it 1st hand. I bought 40g of warm fuzzy. I think ill try it alone 1st so that i know what im dealing with here. I dont have a scale on hand and wanna take about 1.5 grams. Any suggestions on how to get a good measurement ? Also how often does Kratom last ? How long before tolerance wears off ? I would like to dose today & tomorrow.






A level teaspoon of kratom powder is usually right around 1.8g to 2.2g....So get a teaspoon measuring spoon, and around 2/3rds to 3/4 of a teaspoon should be around the dose you're looking for. (and that actually so happens to be the dose I suggest to people trying it for their first time, given that they haven't used potent opioids in recent times and have no tolerance to such).



I've been taking kratom daily for a few years now, using it mostly as a medicine, taking the same amounts at the same time ever day...so it's in my system when I trip regardless.


I can certainly see it easing the come up for some people, it does so for me.....It's my favorite thing for the come down of a trip though, that's actually one of the few occasions where I take a bit more than my usual dose to get a strong effect (2.5g to 3.5g).


The stuff also helps relax my body and lessen the body load & tension/pain that LSD creates in my back & legs sometimes.


Good idea to give it a try by itself before taking it on L.


And generally speaking, yea the stuff in smoke shops is really over priced and IME mediocre quality. And who knows what strain you actually got, some strains of kratom can be very sedating and opioid like, other strains are more uplifting and stimulating in nature...they all have a bit of a mild opioid buzz though.





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Re: KRATOM + LSD [Re: openmind]
    #23558093 - 08/19/16 07:54 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I enjoy the combo, well I take kratom daily. So, most my lsd trips I am dropping shortly after taking my kratom dose, and dosing kratom near the end if possible.

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