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Re: While We are Talking SABs... [Re: Kenetic]
    #23590831 - 08/29/16 05:12 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

:pm: me for some great offers on mold repellent crystals :peace:


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Re: While We are Talking SABs... [Re: spacechildo]
    #23591063 - 08/29/16 06:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

ha ha I see what you did there....:wink:


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Re: While We are Talking SABs... [Re: Kenetic] * 1
    #23591265 - 08/29/16 07:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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kenetic said:
I think the U.V. is a great idea if you can afford it.  At some point I'd like to sell edibles to markets or superstores and I'd like the best equipment I could get.  I love tools, and could easily spend all my money on them just to have to nicest things possible. 
I use tools every day for work and I've noticed the better stuff I have, the easier my job is.  Hell, people waste money on far worse things.





i totally agree with the jist of what you are saying: i LOVE lab equipment and medical equipment and have good relationships with several local companies supplying both, and i constantly research better ways to do things, mainly trying to learn from the way things are done in an academic setting, and by other people who are truly skilled in these practices and i try to imitate them and learn the underlying principles. i have collected nice lab and medical equipment since i was a kid. and it can really broaden your horizons and save lots of time if you find/use the right stuff

BUT what is WAAAAAAY more important than having the right tool is using the tool RIGHT, understanding the purpose of the tool and what you are trying to accomplish, and utilizing it properly.

For instance, there are some folks on here who have built or bought badass flow hoods and still cant get clean cultures, and then there are people who can work in an SAB they made stone drunk with less than 1% contam rate. So which tool is better? its kind of relative (and i dont like thinking in terms of superlatives anyway, its a fast track to being wrong; something is only "best" until someone thinks of something better)

I have started asking the old men at the lab supply stores how they would go about doing various things, just about anything i try to do. they are brilliant, and often there is a WAY simpler and more effective way to do things than my initial assumptions. Discovering buchner funnels and vacuum aspirators changed my life!!! has probably saved me hundreds of hours

another time, i was doing this crazy extraction the most roundabout way possible, and i asked my 74 yr old buddy up there how to get some crazy chem, he asked what i was trying to do, i explained, and he said "well that would work if you have time and money to burn, but why dont you just use a cation resin in a chromatography column?" and named some particular resin that worked perfect for what i was tryin to do!! saved me hundreds of hours. the old folks are sharp, definitely worth pickin their brains


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Re: While We are Talking SABs... [Re: c10h12n2o]
    #23591931 - 08/29/16 10:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Lol if you have a real chromotogography column you got one helluva lab


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Re: While We are Talking SABs... [Re: spore-ty] * 1
    #23593851 - 08/30/16 02:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

hahaha maybe its a decent lab for someone who's degrees are in english, but its very amateur to someone who has a few organic chem classes under their belt. but i am learning! ive always collected stuff like that, i love learning how things work and love breaking things down

after i got in good with some lab supply companies, i would go spend a large chunk of my check with them every time i got paid. i love having the ability to do acid/base extractions and other random stuff without getting too ghetto, and it is also great to be able to experiment with various solventless extraction methods for the cannabis industry, being able to test stuff small scale allows me to plan larger and connect the dots.

between my lab stuff and 3d printing i can prototype and test stuff more easily than i ever imagined would be possible, since i grew up in the middle of nowhere in the deep south, where i struggled to find basic supplies, much less lab equipment

also handy to be able to do reagent tests and do broad ID, something i help friends with anytime they think they are buying a particular powder that might test as another compound entirely, though i havent done much of that for several years. (if anyone is interested in doing this on the go, check out Dance Safe kits, you can order one for less than 50$ that will have 3 or 4 different reagent test kits in it and a chart showing the reactions of different substances to each reagent)

lol i will never forget one time in college a guy swore he had pure cocaine, and nothing i could say would change his mind. he had watched blow and thought melting point is the ultimate test of purity. i already knew it was gonna be more like 30% from sampling it (still high for USA), but this guy loved talking about how pure it was. i finally convinced him to wash it and find out and he literally cried when he saw how little was left hahaha

btw chromatography columns themselves arent that expensive, you can get a small one under 100$, but all the stuff you need to use it can definitely add up fast... i always have a list of stuff i am looking for, with craigslist and ebay alerts set up for all of em, and i try to prioritize the stuff i "need" by how many different things i can use it for, and how much it will expand my capabilities

though my own limited understanding and knowledge are usually the primary ceiling i run into. i try not to buy too much stuff i dont understand how to use. and quite often, simply reading more, learning more, or asking the right person the right question is the best way to solve a problem.


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"Partial knowledge is more triumphant than complete knowledge; it takes things to be simpler than they are, and so makes its theory more popular and convincing."

"Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies"
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Re: While We are Talking SABs... [Re: c10h12n2o]
    #24374912 - 06/03/17 08:59 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

sorry for the old bump. but what is the material you are placing on the hole openings? pretty cool. i use magnets myself but i like the way that looks. i used to use those nice big pvc pipe fitting but a few times i dropped my sab they came off and i got too lazy to glue em back on.

check out my old one.



and the new one.



i definitely like my ac magnets better than the old pvc pipe design. the larger pvc would reduce the space in my sab as well.


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Re: While We are Talking SABs... [Re: eatyualive]
    #24375229 - 06/03/17 11:49 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

no worries :smile:

i was using little plastic pails from the hardware store, just stuffing them in the holes to block them. i usually had them turned the other way around, but i was still figuring that out when i took that shot lol...

i would have put magnets on the side of the pails with a little bar for it to snap onto if i still had this SAB, so that the pails snap into place with the magnets (i really like that idea)

yours is slick! i dig it :smile: i tried pipe fittings on my first one but my arms are too big lol... i couldnt find any big enough to get in so i ended up cutting off the bottom of pails and putting a shower cap on it when not in use

i REALLY enjoyed working with that thing, i built it out of plexiglass i found on the side of the road lol... it had a hinged lid where i could put bags in and out, and when i started using a towel and rack combo my success rate went over 99% (for real, i actually tracked it, i did over 15,000 plates in this so i had a plenty big enough sample size lol )

couldnt be happier with my new FH though, i LOVE this thing, i havent even seen contam since i built it (except on a plate i dropped on the floor lol)



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