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frankwhite85
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gas exchange affected by drier climates?
#23557365 - 08/19/16 04:09 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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So I recently moved to a place with a desert climate and was wondering if it might affect gas exchange in my grain jars. I know RR says to put 4 small holes in you jar lids for proper ge; would this be a bit excessive? I'm worried that many holes might dry out the grain. Should I keep using four or maybe only do like 2? does a filter disk keep in most of that moisture?
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Re: gas exchange affected by drier climates? [Re: frankwhite85]
#23557584 - 08/19/16 05:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I use one 1/4" hole or one 3/8" hole with a filter disc under the lid. My grain jars never dry out, sometimes masters sit colonized in the fridge for a month before expanding. I don't think the climate change will be anything to worry about as long as you don't go changing too many things to your method at once.
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Re: gas exchange affected by drier climates? [Re: PirateSwazey]
#23557611 - 08/19/16 05:30 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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The humidity outside of your jars makes no difference as long as you make your lids the way they're supposed to be made
RR has never said 4 small holes for anything other than PF cakes
If he said 4 small holes on grain jars you find me where he said it
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Re: gas exchange affected by drier climates? [Re: bodhisatta]
#23558032 - 08/19/16 07:34 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Trusted Cultivator said: The humidity outside of your jars makes no difference as long as you make your lids the way they're supposed to be made
RR has never said 4 small holes for anything other than PF cakes
If he said 4 small holes on grain jars you find me where he said it
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14985722#14985722
here is says 5x.5mm holes are okay, https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5102542
here he prefers 4x1/8" holes, https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11080387#11080387
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Re: gas exchange affected by drier climates? [Re: h0ldthedoor]
#23558073 - 08/19/16 07:47 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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h0ldthedoor said:
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Trusted Cultivator said: The humidity outside of your jars makes no difference as long as you make your lids the way they're supposed to be made
RR has never said 4 small holes for anything other than PF cakes
If he said 4 small holes on grain jars you find me where he said it
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14985722#14985722
here is says 5x.5mm holes are okay, https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5102542
here he prefers 4x1/8" holes, https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11080387#11080387

4,10,6 years ago don't poke TC
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Re: gas exchange affected by drier climates? [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23558085 - 08/19/16 07:51 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm not trying to poke anyone. It wasn't clear whether he was trying to say OP is lazy or that 4 holes for grain is wrong. I'm trying to learn about this.
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Always keep your foes confused. If they are never certain who you are or what you want, they cannot know what you are like to do next. Sometimes the best way to baffle them is to make moves that have no purpose, or even seem to work against you. – Petyr Baelish
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Re: gas exchange affected by drier climates? [Re: h0ldthedoor]
#23558103 - 08/19/16 07:56 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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One 1/4-3/8 hole is all you need.
The first post you linked he was explaining surface are not saying to do it.
The other links are old as shit.
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mrmazdarx9
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Re: gas exchange affected by drier climates? [Re: h0ldthedoor]
#23558112 - 08/19/16 07:59 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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h0ldthedoor said: I'm not trying to poke anyone. It wasn't clear whether he was trying to say OP is lazy or that 4 holes for grain is wrong. I'm trying to learn about this.
Learn by reading not searching key words then posting links from yester year trying to show up much more knowledgeable members When I search through your posts that's all you seem to be doing post count means nothing if you get called out every time you post
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Re: gas exchange affected by drier climates? [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23558119 - 08/19/16 08:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Again, sarcasm is difficult to detect on the internet. And to that point, no one is trying to "show up" anyone. Where is this coming from?
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Edited by h0ldthedoor (08/19/16 08:02 PM)
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Re: gas exchange affected by drier climates? [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23558128 - 08/19/16 08:02 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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OP, I live a desert climate. if you are using poly, stuff it so tight that its like rock hard. i needs to be very compact.
i actually just don't use holes in my lids at all anymore. i leave the lid upside down and unscrew the band a few twists so that the lid can movely just a little when you put your finger on it and wiggle it. provides perfect GE
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Re: gas exchange affected by drier climates? [Re: h0ldthedoor]
#23558129 - 08/19/16 08:02 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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h0ldthedoor said: Again, sarcasm is difficult to detect on the internet.
No sarcasm in my post genuine concern that your going the wrong way
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Re: gas exchange affected by drier climates? [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23558150 - 08/19/16 08:11 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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h0ldthedoor said: Again, sarcasm is difficult to detect on the internet.
No sarcasm in my post genuine concern that your going the wrong way
I wasn't speaking to any sarcasm in your post but rather the one prior to yours. This one in particular https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23557611#23557611.
I was not sure whether TC was calling OP out to provide the posts that confirm exactly what he's asking to prove how it's simple to use the search feature to confirm the number of holes in the lid or if he was proving a point about how wrong it is to use 4 holes to begin with. Again, no harsh vibes man.
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Always keep your foes confused. If they are never certain who you are or what you want, they cannot know what you are like to do next. Sometimes the best way to baffle them is to make moves that have no purpose, or even seem to work against you. – Petyr Baelish
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Re: gas exchange affected by drier climates? [Re: h0ldthedoor]
#23558170 - 08/19/16 08:15 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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h0ldthedoor said:
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mrmazdarx9 said:
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h0ldthedoor said: Again, sarcasm is difficult to detect on the internet.
No sarcasm in my post genuine concern that your going the wrong way
I wasn't speaking to any sarcasm in your post but rather the one prior to yours. This one in particular https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23557611#23557611.
I was not sure whether TC was calling OP out to provide the posts that confirm exactly what he's asking to prove how it's simple to use the search feature to confirm the number of holes in the lid or if he was proving a point about how wrong it is to use 4 holes to begin with. Again, no harsh vibes man.
RR may have said that but the reality is I dont think very few people ever took that advice or passed it on. in all my years, this is the first I've seen of this '4 small holes for grain jars.' honestly, I would have thought u were BSing too if I was the first one to read your comment.
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mrmazdarx9
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Re: gas exchange affected by drier climates? [Re: h0ldthedoor]
#23558182 - 08/19/16 08:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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h0ldthedoor said:
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mrmazdarx9 said:
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h0ldthedoor said: Again, sarcasm is difficult to detect on the internet.
No sarcasm in my post genuine concern that your going the wrong way
I wasn't speaking to any sarcasm in your post but rather the one prior to yours. This one in particular https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23557611#23557611.
I was not sure whether TC was calling OP out to provide the posts that confirm exactly what he's asking to prove how it's simple to use the search feature to confirm the number of holes in the lid or if he was proving a point about how wrong it is to use 4 holes to begin with. Again, no harsh vibes man.
All you do is post links literally every post usually massively out of date in the search engine type less than 4 years and at least post accurate info or try posting info for yourself by learning it instead of melting the search engine with copy paste links jeez Those blue mushrooms will quickly turn white if you keep posting shit you haven't read properly yourself no harsh vibes just trying to help
Edited by mrmazdarx9 (08/19/16 08:24 PM)
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Re: gas exchange affected by drier climates? [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23558235 - 08/19/16 08:34 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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mrmazdarx9 said:
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h0ldthedoor said:
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mrmazdarx9 said:
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h0ldthedoor said: Again, sarcasm is difficult to detect on the internet.
No sarcasm in my post genuine concern that your going the wrong way
I wasn't speaking to any sarcasm in your post but rather the one prior to yours. This one in particular https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23557611#23557611.
I was not sure whether TC was calling OP out to provide the posts that confirm exactly what he's asking to prove how it's simple to use the search feature to confirm the number of holes in the lid or if he was proving a point about how wrong it is to use 4 holes to begin with. Again, no harsh vibes man.
All you do is post links literally every post usually massively out of date in the search engine type less than 4 years and at least post accurate info or try posting info for yourself by learning it instead of melting the search engine with copy paste links jeez
Not sure what you've got against my posts, sure, not every post is a gem but an earnest effort is being made.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23381304#23381304 https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23400877#23400877 https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23411146#23411146 https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23447052#23447052 https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23452283#23452283 https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23483240#23483240 https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23541168#23541168 https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23465028#23465028 https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23466614#23466614 https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23488609#23488609 https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23489446#23489446
or these few from earlier,
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23557818#23557818 https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23556736#23556736 https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23556610#23556610
Effort is being taken to be remain respectful and help other users as possible. If my post history bothers you, avoid other parts of the site where duplicate posting, multiposting, requesting things like ID with zero useful information and/or photos and re-bumping for no apparent reason is not uncommon.
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Always keep your foes confused. If they are never certain who you are or what you want, they cannot know what you are like to do next. Sometimes the best way to baffle them is to make moves that have no purpose, or even seem to work against you. – Petyr Baelish
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Re: gas exchange affected by drier climates? [Re: h0ldthedoor] 1
#23558240 - 08/19/16 08:35 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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guys, take it to or drop it
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mrmazdarx9
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Re: gas exchange affected by drier climates? [Re: h0ldthedoor]
#23558254 - 08/19/16 08:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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h0ldthedoor said:
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h0ldthedoor said:
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mrmazdarx9 said:
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h0ldthedoor said: Again, sarcasm is difficult to detect on the internet.
No sarcasm in my post genuine concern that your going the wrong way
I wasn't speaking to any sarcasm in your post but rather the one prior to yours. This one in particular https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23557611#23557611.
I was not sure whether TC was calling OP out to provide the posts that confirm exactly what he's asking to prove how it's simple to use the search feature to confirm the number of holes in the lid or if he was proving a point about how wrong it is to use 4 holes to begin with. Again, no harsh vibes man.
All you do is post links literally every post usually massively out of date in the search engine type less than 4 years and at least post accurate info or try posting info for yourself by learning it instead of melting the search engine with copy paste links jeez
Not sure what you've got against my posts, sure, not every post is a gem but an earnest effort is being made.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23381304#23381304 https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23400877#23400877 https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23411146#23411146 https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23447052#23447052 https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23452283#23452283 https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23483240#23483240 https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23541168#23541168 https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23465028#23465028 https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23466614#23466614 https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23488609#23488609 https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23489446#23489446
or these few from earlier,
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23557818#23557818 https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23556736#23556736 https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23556610#23556610
Effort is being taken to be remain respectful and help other users as possible. If my post history bothers you, avoid other parts of the site where duplicate posting, multiposting, requesting things like ID with zero useful information and/or photos and re-bumping for no apparent reason is not uncommon.
As I said all you do is post links point proven No actual info given in any just links or advice to wait for someone else to post just trying to get up your numbers Munchauzen I'm done
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Re: gas exchange affected by drier climates? [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23558643 - 08/19/16 10:47 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I am in a dry climate also and never have issues with the grain jars but maybe a humidifier in the room or two depending on how big your grow room is ... I've only had issues with my subs getting dry but I'm also still getting the hang of this great hobby
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