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paracelsusgold

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older serious gardener getting back into growing gourmet and medicinal mushrooms
#23557354 - 08/19/16 04:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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i am 70 and have not grown any edible mushrooms for many years but i am working on my new facilities right now on my property here in sw georgia on 8 plus acres. i would enjoy meeting any folks growing some interesting medicinal mushrooms so that perhaps i can learn something to get me up to speed again. i garden alot here and have planted quite a few fruit trees and vegetables (we are vegans) and grow muscadines raspberries and other berries as well. i have a huge compost pile here for the vegetables.
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Gr0wer
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Re: older serious gardener getting back into growing gourmet and medicinal mushrooms [Re: paracelsusgold]
#23557765 - 08/19/16 06:14 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Welcome to the GMM forms! Do you just want to grow medicinals or edibles too? Are you looking for outdoor grows? That would be the easiest but seasonal. Shiitake and oyster inoculated hardwood logs are a good place to start, use hardwood dowels or sawdust to inoculate.
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paracelsusgold

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Re: older serious gardener getting back into growing gourmet and medicinal mushrooms [Re: Gr0wer]
#23557829 - 08/19/16 06:31 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Gr0wer said: Welcome to the GMM forms! Do you just want to grow medicinals or edibles too? Are you looking for outdoor grows? That would be the easiest but seasonal. Shiitake and oyster inoculated hardwood logs are a good place to start, use hardwood dowels or sawdust to inoculate.
dear grower thanks alot. i am interested in both medicinal and edible. i want to try the stropharia ruggoso for one. i want to grow outdoors and indoors both as well.
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Gr0wer
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Re: older serious gardener getting back into growing gourmet and medicinal mushrooms [Re: paracelsusgold]
#23558034 - 08/19/16 07:35 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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King stropharia is a great mushroom for a gardner. If your looking to do outdoor logs pick up a few bags of sawdust spawn and an inoculation tool if you plan on doing this for a while. You can also make hard If you want to get into making your own spawn and keeping your own cultures you will need a pressure cooker and learn some serile work with a SAB, glovebox, or flowhood. Do you just want an occasional mushroom meal or a steady supply?
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paracelsusgold

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Re: older serious gardener getting back into growing gourmet and medicinal mushrooms [Re: Gr0wer]
#23558713 - 08/19/16 11:14 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Gr0wer said: King stropharia is a great mushroom for a gardner. If your looking to do outdoor logs pick up a few bags of sawdust spawn and an inoculation tool if you plan on doing this for a while. You can also make hard If you want to get into making your own spawn and keeping your own cultures you will need a pressure cooker and learn some serile work with a SAB, glovebox, or flowhood. Do you just want an occasional mushroom meal or a steady supply?
grower thanks and have you grown the king stropharia? what is sawdust spawn? where do you buy suppltes like inoculation tool? i intend to build my own glovebox/sab and i want a steady supply. what do you mean "make hard"? i want my own cultures as well. where can i purchase a print? thank you for bring so helpful.
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Re: older serious gardener getting back into growing gourmet and medicinal mushrooms [Re: paracelsusgold]
#23558821 - 08/20/16 12:01 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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You should buy the books from Paul Stamets, the mushroom cultivator, gourmet and medicinal mushrooms, mycelium running. Read them then re-read them later. This is money well spent if you are serious.
Edited by invitro (08/20/16 12:02 AM)
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paracelsusgold

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Re: older serious gardener getting back into growing gourmet and medicinal mushrooms [Re: invitro]
#23558838 - 08/20/16 12:09 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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invitro said: You should buy the books from Paul Stamets, the mushroom cultivator, gourmet and medicinal mushrooms, mycelium running. Read them then re-read them later. This is money well spent if you are serious.
invitro i have had that book for many years and used it when i was growing. i have an excellent mycological library
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Gr0wer
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Re: older serious gardener getting back into growing gourmet and medicinal mushrooms [Re: paracelsusgold]
#23559406 - 08/20/16 08:59 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think i was starting to say you can make hardwood mulch beds. Sawdust spawn is sterilized sawdust in jars or bags that you inoculate with colonized grain spawn then use the sawdust spawn to inoculate hardwood mulch beds or logs. If your growing indoors you will need to pasterize wood chips or straw then spawn with grain spawn.
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paracelsusgold

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Re: older serious gardener getting back into growing gourmet and medicinal mushrooms [Re: Gr0wer]
#23560282 - 08/20/16 03:35 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Gr0wer said: I think i was starting to say you can make hardwood mulch beds. Sawdust spawn is sterilized sawdust in jars or bags that you inoculate with colonized grain spawn then use the sawdust spawn to inoculate hardwood mulch beds or logs. If your growing indoors you will need to pasterize wood chips or straw then spawn with grain spawn.
grower what type of sawdust would you suggest? have you ever done this? i do have access to large quantities of wood here and i have piles of cutdown ssmall trees brush behind my workshop but no chipper. a good chipper is about 6 or 700 dollars. what mushroom are we discussing growing? 
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paracelsusgold

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Re: older serious gardener getting back into growing gourmet and medicinal mushrooms [Re: paracelsusgold]
#23560287 - 08/20/16 03:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Gr0wer said: I think i was starting to say you can make hardwood mulch beds. Sawdust spawn is sterilized sawdust in jars or bags that you inoculate with colonized grain spawn then use the sawdust spawn to inoculate hardwood mulch beds or logs. If your growing indoors you will need to pasterize wood chips or straw then spawn with grain spawn.
grower what type of sawdust would you suggest? have you ever done this? i do have access to large quantities of wood here and i have piles of cutdown ssmall trees brush behind my workshop but no chipper. a good chipper is about 6 or 700 dollars. what mushroom are we discussing growing?  
grower i must have spaced out because i know it is the big gym we are talking about now. its been a hard day. anyhow i am having a hard time finding prints available so maybe i ought to forget trying to grow that one. 
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paracelsusgold

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Re: older serious gardener getting back into growing gourmet and medicinal mushrooms [Re: paracelsusgold]
#23560346 - 08/20/16 04:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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paracelsusgold said:
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paracelsusgold said:
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Gr0wer said: I think i was starting to say you can make hardwood mulch beds. Sawdust spawn is sterilized sawdust in jars or bags that you inoculate with colonized grain spawn then use the sawdust spawn to inoculate hardwood mulch beds or logs. If your growing indoors you will need to pasterize wood chips or straw then spawn with grain spawn.
grower what type of sawdust would you suggest? have you ever done this? i do have access to large quantities of wood here and i have piles of cutdown ssmall trees brush behind my workshop but no chipper. a good chipper is about 6 or 700 dollars. what mushroom are we discussing growing?  
grower i must have spaced out because i know it is the big gym we are talking about now. its been a hard day. anyhow i am having a hard time finding prints available so maybe i ought to forget trying to grow that one.  
i am getting my threads confused apparently because we are talking about king stropharia right. do you know where i could get some prints? sorry for the confusion but as i said it has been a hard day.
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anthiawe
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Re: older serious gardener getting back into growing gourmet and medicinal mushrooms [Re: paracelsusgold]
#23560449 - 08/20/16 04:28 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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prints of straphoria? culture would be better. you can find it at many vendors sites or trade for it on the shroomery. but who knows maybe you want prints for a reason.
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paracelsusgold

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Re: older serious gardener getting back into growing gourmet and medicinal mushrooms [Re: anthiawe]
#23560535 - 08/20/16 04:55 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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anthiawe said: prints of straphoria? culture would be better. you can find it at many vendors sites or trade for it on the shroomery. but who knows maybe you want prints for a reason.
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anthiawe said: prints of straphoria? culture would be better. you can find it at many vendors sites or trade for it on the shroomery. but who knows maybe you want prints for a reason.
hello friend thanks for this message. i like prints because i like to soak them beforehand and inject them into the particular solution or substrate filtered and i can refrigerate them until i need them and they do not take up much room. also i can isolate my own strains. and they are cheaper too. i need to find the right sporebank. stay in touch.
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anthiawe
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Re: older serious gardener getting back into growing gourmet and medicinal mushrooms [Re: paracelsusgold]
#23560546 - 08/20/16 05:00 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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have you worked with agar before? test tubes with agar and those tongue sticks/Popsicle sticks work great for storing long term, and you will be able to get to fruit faster from culture on agar than from spores. BUT whatever floats YOUR boat! all up to you
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paracelsusgold

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Re: older serious gardener getting back into growing gourmet and medicinal mushrooms [Re: Gr0wer]
#23560561 - 08/20/16 05:03 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Gr0wer said: I think i was starting to say you can make hardwood mulch beds. Sawdust spawn is sterilized sawdust in jars or bags that you inoculate with colonized grain spawn then use the sawdust spawn to inoculate hardwood mulch beds or logs. If your growing indoors you will need to pasterize wood chips or straw then spawn with grain spawn.
grower i was thinking that i might get myself a real good chipper/shredder when i get ready for one. i have a large amount of tree branches etc sitting behind my workshop that i have been collecting for the past 5 months and i have not burned anything as i usually do because it has been so hot and dry. but i think i will keep just collecting all the brush etc i am continually cutting here by hand and then i will have a huge amount of sawdust or small chips and there are some of the largest water oaks and pecan trees on this earth on this 8 plus acre property in sw georgia believe me brother. i probably will have to spend $1500 to 2000 to get one stout enough. stay in touch. 
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paracelsusgold

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Re: older serious gardener getting back into growing gourmet and medicinal mushrooms [Re: anthiawe]
#23560573 - 08/20/16 05:08 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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anthiawe said: have you worked with agar before? test tubes with agar and those tongue sticks/Popsicle sticks work great for storing long term, and you will be able to get to fruit faster from culture on than from spores. BUT whatever floats YOUR boat! all up to you
should i call you ant? anyhow i have worked a great deal with agar. i have a nice slant tray of wood i have had for years. i just like germinating my own spores and then i can isolate the strongest strains myself. i appreciate your input. stay in touch please. 
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Re: older serious gardener getting back into growing gourmet and medicinal mushrooms [Re: paracelsusgold]
#23561562 - 08/20/16 10:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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You could have quite a lot of wood chips with $1000 at $200 per dump truck load.
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