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r35l
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Re: morel cult thread [Re: moricz]
#23487348 - 07/28/16 08:48 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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anyone have morel spores or culture they would like to share?
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Raven44
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Re: morel cult thread [Re: r35l]
#23556649 - 08/19/16 12:03 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I highly suspect that the old apple tree out front which produces morels... is infected with powdery mildew
So are the little maple trees near the apple tree
Figured I'd note this here
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Uncle Nasty
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Re: morel cult thread [Re: Raven44]
#23611541 - 09/04/16 02:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Acid Horse, Carsten is just a salesman nothing more. I've tried having decent conversations with that guy and all I get is "why did you do that?" They offer nothing as far as indoor cultivation. He's also in my opinion a scam artist, he apparently makes his spawn/cultures in Denmark but it's shipped from Temperance, Michigan, United States?! At $110 a pop this guy is pulling some serious cash.
It's my personal belief that he is kin to Mills. I talked to Dr. Mills myself and he told me to go to Carstens FB page. Understandable as Mills can't talk about his process for legal reasons.
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Uncle Nasty
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Carsten and his lady friend who is stuck up his ass are narcissistic at best.
As for this formulary we all are seeking I have to believe it's stupid simple and not all intricate as we may think. If the process for growing indoors was extremely difficult and hard to accomplish I would think that me as a business man wouldn't even bother with it. Think about it, why the hell would anyone spend all the time and effort for possible failure...and a high one at that, when all you would have to do is cultivate twice the amount of another mushroom to make up for what you profit growing Morels. I've read this whole thread and waited patiently to say what is probably on everyone's mind, "why haven't we succeeded". I believe a vast amount of people on here have the right piece of the puzzle and just need to apply it in your own way. On a side note, I whole heartedly believe Acid Horse is right when it comes to lighting, RH, and strain.
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Uncle Nasty
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For those interested in the current Chinese method of Morel cultivation. https://www.google.com/patents/CN101438667A?cl=en
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drake89
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Yeah true, I don't think there's much money in morels compared to other exotics.
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Chk
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Re: morel cult thread [Re: drake89]
#23613585 - 09/05/16 02:20 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Really ?
i don't know what's the price in america, but it's around 400€ per dry kilogram here.
if a reliable and efficient way could be found to grow it, i would think 2 times before dismissing it !
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anthiawe
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Re: morel cult thread [Re: Chk]
#23613722 - 09/05/16 04:16 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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huge money in morels in canada - they sell for 40+ dollars a pound and have created a huge foraging subculture in northern areas across the country
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drake89
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Re: morel cult thread [Re: anthiawe]
#23614539 - 09/05/16 11:44 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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anthiawe said: huge money in morels in canada - they sell for 40+ dollars a pound and have created a huge foraging subculture in northern areas across the country
That's only because there are middle men paying $5/# to pickers and charging extra. About 4 or 5 months a year. The volume is about a million lbs annually in america where exotics are about 20 million lbs a year.
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anthiawe
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Re: morel cult thread [Re: drake89]
#23614583 - 09/05/16 11:59 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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the fact is, people make a lot of money on morels.
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drake89
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Re: morel cult thread [Re: anthiawe]
#23614765 - 09/05/16 01:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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anthiawe said: the fact is, people make a lot of money on morels.
the fact is that the supply side is so fragile that in good years where harvests are large, demand remains relatively constant and prices paid to pickers are sometimes sub $3-4/lb. Point being that if you had a morel farm that produced year-round you would likely not get much better prices than the foragers. Certainly sub $10/lb. Since you would need a lot of new equipment to setup such a farm, it's just not that attractive when oysters are shiitake are a lot easier to grow and sell en masse.
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anthiawe
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Re: morel cult thread [Re: drake89]
#23614781 - 09/05/16 01:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Chk
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Re: morel cult thread [Re: drake89]
#23614829 - 09/05/16 01:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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3-4$ per lb , is that dry or wet price? Oo
In any case it's insanely low compared to here.
Makes me believe there is a lot more morel there, you lucky guys XD
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foragedfungus
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Re: morel cult thread [Re: anthiawe]
#23614837 - 09/05/16 01:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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From the linked article- "Suppliers will pay around $6 a pound to the pickers".
I'm assuming they're talking in canadian dollars since it's a canadian website, about canada. So closer to $4.60/lb(usd).
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anthiawe
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you'd have to capture the market as a grower - cut out the buyers and supply direct to restaurants or other avenues. and of course researching a method for cultivation would be capital intensive but the market is global. a cultivator can be the picker and buyer - both make a lot of money per day.
Canada has a lot of land burnt in wildfires every year. so yeah, A LOT of morels.
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Uncle Nasty
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Just letting everyone know there is another group for people interested in cultivating Morels. https://www.facebook.com/groups/521750711360298/
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HappyCat
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Re: morel cult thread [Re: AcidHorse]
#23635750 - 09/11/16 01:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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AcidHorse said: "Major development"
I have been saying small hickories and even posted pics but I've realized and figured out that what I thought was shagbark hickory was in fact the Paw Paw tree. Asimina triloba. Leaves of Paw Paw look like Shagbark hickory leaves. Paw Paw flowers look similar to Shagbark hickory female flowers. Hickories exist in the same location and overtop of the pawpaw shrubs as the canopy. Morchella diminutiva has an affinity for Paw Paw shrubs.
This is very interesting, though I suppose it does make sense considering the conditions Asimina likes(I'm very familiar with pawpaws).
Asimina prefers slightly damp shady areas under hardwoods with somewhat sandy soil covered in hardwood forest floor mulch, in areas that are frequently disturbed. Asimina doesn't persist in mature climax forests, they are moderately fire-adapted, Asimina has an impressive tap root, even a 2 foot pawpaw may have taproot as much as 6 feet long or more underground, even if the upper section of the tree is completely destroyed it can re-sprout from its taproot or even from lateral roots(pawpaw stands are often root clones, the unfortunate side affect is a poor fruit set without cross pollination).
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Razare
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Re: morel cult thread [Re: HappyCat]
#23636342 - 09/11/16 04:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I pick wild morels in michigan, near Mesick.
Good spots in the woods, I have wondered about taking spore prints of the local stuff and doing jars and propagating it into our woods which grows them naturally.
As for price, during the season morels in our area go from $20 to $70 per pound, fresh. $70 is roadside, with a certified exchange. $20 is you selling to someone you know, basically.
For 2 years, our forest produced giant white morels, like some 12 inches.
Thing is, the normal sized ones taste a lot better than the tough giants.
-------------------- 2016 was a good year, +5 lb of Morels, and I ate 8 new species of wild mushrooms: Herecium, Chanterelles, Black Trumpets, Parasol Mushroom, Fairy Ring Mushroom (marasmius oreades), Wild Oyster, Slippery Jacks, Honey Mushrooms (found over 100lb, froze 4lb in my freezer.) Reference Pictures for Mushrooms
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Lennybernadino
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Re: morel cult thread [Re: Razare]
#23636434 - 09/11/16 05:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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You may want to do something like this:
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HappyCat
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Been doing a bit of testing with different Morel grow mediums.
60 Hours Post Inoculation Worst Performing so far: 100% Wild Bird Seed. Best Performing so far: 10 year old PF cakes that had sat in a box in a storage shed(because they came out too dry "back in the day"), remanufactued and enhanced with a small amount of (new) cooked WBS.
Edited by HappyCat (09/19/16 12:05 PM)
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