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Could my LSD still be LSD?
    #23556343 - 08/19/16 09:53 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Hey,

I bought some LSD from what I thought was a safe supplier. The blotter is 180µg. A friend of mine took half of the same blotters and tripped 6 hours heavy and another 6 hours tripping out. The blotters had no taste.

I wanted to be sure for real and tested them with en Ehrlich Reagent. It doesn't color purple, but it also doesn't color into the colors of the DOB family.

So could my blotter still contain LSD and that my test is wrong or could there be another substance upon it?

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Re: Could my LSD still be LSD? [Re: psychedelick]
    #23556367 - 08/19/16 10:03 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I have never used a test kit. But a good saying to go by is if its bitter, its a spitter. LSD is going to be tasteless, if it doesn't taste like paper then its a RC.


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Re: Could my LSD still be LSD? [Re: psychedelick]
    #23556376 - 08/19/16 10:06 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

And there aren't any other tasteless psychedelic substances on blotters that are tasteless too?


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Re: Could my LSD still be LSD? [Re: psychedelick]
    #23556408 - 08/19/16 10:23 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Any lsd I have had has tested purple, it can take a couple minutes, or test positive within a minute.


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Re: Could my LSD still be LSD? [Re: psychedelick]
    #23556414 - 08/19/16 10:26 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Blotters can be hard to test with a reagent since there's so much paper and so little lsd. It should still work though but the color might be faint and take longer to change colors.

There are lsd analogs going around such as 1p-lsd but they are just as safe as lsd and pretty much give the same trip.

If it's tasteless and makes you trip for 12 hours then it's pretty safe to say it's lsd or an lsd analog.


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Re: Could my LSD still be LSD? [Re: searching]
    #23556422 - 08/19/16 10:28 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I cut the tiniest off of a tab, the corner usually. I would say its 1/10th of the tab, and always purple. Its getting the tab upside down to see the white side to be able to see the white turn purple.

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Re: Could my LSD still be LSD? [Re: LSDollar]
    #23556440 - 08/19/16 10:36 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

But does your drop color with it too?


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Re: Could my LSD still be LSD? [Re: psychedelick]
    #23556455 - 08/19/16 10:41 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

If it tasted like nothing and youre tripping could be : LSD, LAD, LSZ or 1p-LSD
The other compounds are pretty safe and similar like "Searching" was saying. I think you should be ok. The reagent test doenst always work on small samples because of the tiny amount of LSD actually present on the paper. 8-12 hours seems like an average time tripping. Id say you guys will be ok.

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Re: Could my LSD still be LSD? [Re: JesusDaMartian]
    #23556670 - 08/19/16 12:14 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I gave it another shot. Cutted off another piece of my blotter that was +/- 1/10 to 1/9 of my blotter. Dropped 2 drops of reagent. No effects in first 3 minutes. After 7 minutes some purple dots appeared on the blotter and some browny color.

Drops themselves stayed neutral, so nothing like this http://i62.tinypic.com/2mzf52v.jpg
I'm a bit concerned but since it's already 2 years ago that i took my last blotter trip i'm going to take this one no matter what.

Hopefully evil RC's don't get me in the hospital :stoned:


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Re: Could my LSD still be LSD? [Re: psychedelick]
    #23556826 - 08/19/16 01:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

You can try a UV light to see if it glows under it, or you can swallow the tab because research chems don't work when swallowed.

The taste test is not reliable because there is plenty of other things that don't have a taste.

If it didn't give the color for LSD or DOB then what color was it? That's kind of important.


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Re: Could my LSD still be LSD? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23557046 - 08/19/16 02:15 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

When i tested a tab the other day, i just took a tab (white side facing up) and put a drop of reagent on there, after a few minutes the whole thing turned pretty purple. Maybe try a tab with the reagent rather than a small piece of a tab? Or make sure you've got good reagent?


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Re: Could my LSD still be LSD? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23559133 - 08/20/16 04:32 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

My test only tests indoles, amfetamines and some DO(x) compounds. But since it didn't really color at all it could still be some compound of the nbome-family because my test isn't testing that.



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Re: Could my LSD still be LSD? [Re: psychedelick]
    #23559612 - 08/20/16 10:32 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

If it lasted for around 12 hours it's probably LSD or 1P-LSD, if you want to be sure test a larger portion


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Re: Could my LSD still be LSD? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #23560248 - 08/20/16 03:23 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I'm pretty sure 1P-LSD does not last 12 hours


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Re: Could my LSD still be LSD? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23560257 - 08/20/16 03:26 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

What do you mean? 1P is virtually the same as L-25


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Re: Could my LSD still be LSD? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #23560262 - 08/20/16 03:27 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

No it's not and most people report that it doesn't last as long. I'm pretty sure something like ALD-52 is closer to real LSD-25 than 1P.


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Re: Could my LSD still be LSD? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #23560330 - 08/20/16 03:57 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

It's just that people are trying to act like 1P is exactly the same or almost the same and I just don't buy it. I'm not gonna hop on the 1P-LSD bandwagon, people I know that have done it say it will only seem the same to somewhat superficial people or people that are not great at analyzing these experiences because they do have differences. 
When I take LSD-25 I literally feel connected to everyone who has ever taken LSD ever, I can't picture that happening on something that isn't LSD. That's one of the main reasons I take it is because I feel like I'm participating in something that many others have as well. You enter into the same space.

1P-LSD may have a lot of the same effects but from what I hear the essence of the experience is considerably different and the biggest differences between all psychedelics imo are not the effects but the essence of the chemical.


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Re: Could my LSD still be LSD? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23562625 - 08/21/16 10:44 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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No it's not and most people report that it doesn't last as long. I'm pretty sure something like ALD-52 is closer to real LSD-25 than 1P.




I've tried them all, 1P is definitely the closest you can get to a L-25 experience, it lasts the same duration and I speak from experience 95% of the communinity will agree who has tried it, don't spread false information unless you know what's up. In the end it's the same experience. LSD is LSD, no 1p is not identical to LSD but in general it's the same take it and find out


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Re: Could my LSD still be LSD? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #23562736 - 08/21/16 11:23 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Uhhh no..

The majority of people recognize that 1P-LSD does not last as long. 1P typically only lasts 8 or 9 hours when LSD lasts 10 to 12 hours.


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Re: Could my LSD still be LSD? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23562789 - 08/21/16 11:43 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Lasts the same for me, and same potency ug for ug just saying the majority can't distinguish, it has altered come down and come up times but I'm still feeling 150ug 14 to 16 hours later it's just not as smooth of transitions more abrupt due to the propionyl group I've had LSD trips last 30+ hours not tripping but still feeling it, same with 1p I agree that it's not an identical experience but very very close. ALD on the other hand has completely different effects unlike  1P

You also gotta realize most people think they've found lsd because they have 1p sorry it's not the same and most people don't know their exact dosages when taking L25 comparatively to 1p


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Re: Could my LSD still be LSD? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #23562792 - 08/21/16 11:44 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Okay I'm just saying that I didn't make that up that's really what a lot of people say.


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