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Alcohol lamp
#23556165 - 08/19/16 08:17 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Been looking at some on the internet but don't wanna wait or rig something up entirely lol... so I was at my wallyworld and came across these any one have any experience with these or should I just go by the ten dollar benson torch they have?
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Re: Alcohol lamp [Re: spore-ty]
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Re: Alcohol lamp [Re: spore-ty]
#23556179 - 08/19/16 08:25 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'd just buy a propane or butane torch, much more convenient. You'll still have to buy a jug of denatured alcohol with that and you'll be in for about $20 total, for $30 you can get a nice propane torch from home depot with electric trigger ignition.
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Re: Alcohol lamp [Re: spore-ty]
#23556187 - 08/19/16 08:30 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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While you're there, grab a wick and some denatured alcohol. Ask an associate and they'll help you find it. The wick you're looking for is a white/light tan color with a red stripe going down the center.
Once you're home, grab a jar and drill a hole in it, just large enough to pull the wick through. It should not come through easily, you should take a little effort to pull it through.
Once the wick is pulled through and there is a .5-1" of wick sticking through the top of the lid, add some denatured alcohol to the jar and screw the lid on.
Voila, light the wick and you've got an alcohol lamp.
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Thanks guys for the quick input really appreciate it,
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Re: Alcohol lamp [Re: spore-ty]
#23556410 - 08/19/16 10:23 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you want to go ghetto, I just inverted a shot glass and dropped hand sanitizer on the bottom (now the top). I'm sure there's probably some reason why that's not a good idea, but it gave me a blue flame and turned my needle red, so I was happy. Just had to add more hand sanitizer and relight periodically.
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Hahaha thanks I'll jot that down in my notebook
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Re: Alcohol lamp [Re: spore-ty]
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ul100 bernzomatic
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I'm more of a TS3000 kind of fancy lad.
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ul100 bernzomatic
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How many jigawatts does that bernzomatic produce TC?
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Buy a small jar of garlic....a bag of cotton balls....and some denatured alcohol (hardware store)
  
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Those ones break eventually and have a shitty wide flame
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My experience is it is very durable, taken several falls no problem. I guess you mean the electric start will wear out? Mine is about 4 or so years old. The flame is fine, doesn't seem very wide to me, not that it even matters for heating a needle or scalpel. You're just jelly of my swag, admit it.
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99% of my torch use is for dabs. The pencil brass tip does the best job IMO. Those plastic torch heads with the ignitors in them are just junk to me. That's all
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Bodh do you just let that thing run the whole time you do transfers? Just curious I have the same one.
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That thing is redonculous. Lol. Let me just try to fit that in my SAB xD Totally the best for dabs though. No question about it.
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Bodh is right. Most the others are shit and break unless you want to spend over 80 bucks on a torch.
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Your torch doesn't go in your SAB...
Yes it runs the whole time. On very low
Ridiculous would be these shitty dinky DIY alcohol lamps people use.
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Yeah I did that for far too damn long haha. I blame my contam issues on it for a large part. Kept taking transfer and always had at least one spot of bacteria. Really annoyed me. Rarely ever happens now. Maybe it was partially technique, but either way I'm blaming the lamp
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If you like soot, and not having your utencils get red hot instantly be my guest with that garbage.
May as well fumble through using a bic
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Trusted Cultivator said: Ridiculous would be these shitty dinky DIY alcohol lamps people use.
TC is right though why arse about what's a torch cost maybe a little more than a shitty alcohol burner why waste time and money buy right buy once. People need to stop cutting corners it might work once but in the end you'll be out of pocket
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Pencil brass torch tip is under 20$ blue propane tank is a few $
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Trusted Cultivator said: Pencil brass torch tip is under 20$ blue propane tank is a few $
Exactly I think my gas torch was £3 used for soldering copper pipe seals and any camping cooker gas tank fits it I can get a box of 4 for £10 and will last probably years
Edit: the torch was £6.98
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No, no, no one can argue the virtues of a blow torch vs an alcohol lamp. But, shitty, dinky, garbage? That's harsh, man

Not everyone has the extra $20-50 bucks to buy a torch and fuel. Most people have a baby food jar, garlic jar, jelly dish, extra jar, etc and some alcohol (ISO is more common, but campers especially may have denatured already) or similar fuel and cotton or similar fabric laying around. In those cases, an alcohol lamp is ideal. Also, an alcohol lamp should not leave soot. That's one benefit of denatured alcohol.
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All that stuff added up costs more than a cheap torch head and a bottle of lighter gas Even a jigged lighter can provide a decent blue flame before it spatters
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mrmazdarx9 said: All that stuff added up costs more than a cheap torch head and a bottle of lighter gas Even a jigged lighter can provide a decent blue flame before it spatters
Did you not read what I wrote? Why would you need to buy those things, if you already have them?
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h0ldthedoor said: Most people have a baby food jar, garlic jar, jelly dish, extra jar, etc and some alcohol (ISO is more common, but campers especially may have denatured already) or similar fuel and cotton or similar fabric laying around. In those cases, an alcohol lamp is ideal.
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So you stole them found them got them donated? No bought them as I said added together that lot would cost more.... Did you not read my post? Here a bottle of iso alone costs £17+ wayyy more than my torch set up will cost for a few years once I use up all my gas Understand I'm not attacking you or saying you are wrong I'm saying its not the best way which in this hobby (for this purpose is what I'll call it) isn't good enough
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No, in this case the materials needed were already on-hand from other projects.
The wick came from the spares for tiki torches, denatured goes in the alcohol stove(s) or other oil lamps, the jar was sitting on a shelf. Look no one is arguing against using a torch. What doesn't make sense though is for a new cultivator to spend one more dollar than is truly necessary, if tools already available can do the job. Budgeting is hard enough without taking on additional expenses from an ancillary hobby.
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h0ldthedoor said: No, in this case the materials needed were already on-hand from other projects.
The wick came from the spares for tiki torches, denatured goes in the alcohol stove(s) or other oil lamps, the jar was sitting on a shelf. Look no one is arguing against using a torch. What doesn't make sense though is for a new cultivator to spend one more dollar than is truly necessary, if tools already available can do the job. Budgeting is hard enough without taking on additional expenses from an ancillary hobby.
Its necessary because its necessary for the hobby IMO if you can't afford a hobby as it reduces the standard of living for you or god forbid your children then fuck wake up you shouldn't be doing this hobby, scoring a high should be the last thing on your mind if you cant afford a few dollars/pounds On another subject have you had a grow that hasn't gone to shit yet apart from one that started as actual shit? Only give advice with proven results or stfu
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mrmazdarx9 said: scoring a high should be the last thing on your mind if you cant afford a few dollars/pounds
It is, hence being an ancillary secondary hobby. With wild fruit in abundance growing them is not a high priority. It's a mix of science and fun.
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mrmazdarx9 said: scoring a high should be the last thing on your mind if you cant afford a few dollars/pounds
It is, hence being an ancillary hobby. With wild fruit in abundance growing them is not a high priority. It's a mix of science and fun. 
Then pick wild and store if you can't afford you don't get into car tuning if you can't afford to buy and run a car
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mrmazdarx9 said: scoring a high should be the last thing on your mind if you cant afford a few dollars/pounds
It is, hence being an ancillary secondary hobby. With wild fruit in abundance growing them is not a high priority. It's a mix of science and fun. 
Dunno why ancillary was used here and earlier, the antithesis was intended. 
Haha caught before the edit lol
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mrmazdarx9 said: scoring a high should be the last thing on your mind if you cant afford a few dollars/pounds
It is, hence being an ancillary secondary hobby. With wild fruit in abundance growing them is not a high priority. It's a mix of science and fun. 
Dunno why ancillary was used here and earlier, the antithesis was intended. 
Haha caught before the edit lol
I have about five different things going on around me, lol. Making it hard to decide if I'm using the word right, but you get my point. No harsh vibes intended, man.
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mrmazdarx9 said: scoring a high should be the last thing on your mind if you cant afford a few dollars/pounds
It is, hence being an ancillary hobby. With wild fruit in abundance growing them is not a high priority. It's a mix of science and fun. 
Then pick wild and store if you can't afford you don't get into car tuning if you can't afford to buy and run a car
That's what's been going on and will likely continue. Thanks for the advice.
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mrmazdarx9 said: scoring a high should be the last thing on your mind if you cant afford a few dollars/pounds
It is, hence being an ancillary secondary hobby. With wild fruit in abundance growing them is not a high priority. It's a mix of science and fun. 
Dunno why ancillary was used here and earlier, the antithesis was intended. 
Haha caught before the edit lol
I have about five different things going on around me, lol. Making it hard to decide if I'm using the word right, but you get my point. No harsh vibes intended, man.
No worries mate I've been there from your first post trying to help with the limited knowledge (but growing) I have, I've learned doing things on the cheap eventually leads you to having to buy the thing you've been told you need in the begining but only after wasting money and resources to come to that conclusion just trying to help cut out those money wasting steps I guarantee you'll be saying this shit soon once you've ruined your fair share of plates and cakes
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That's it in a nutshell. With emphasis on if things don't turn out well. In all likelihood, with increased interest the MAPP torch will be broken out, but it seems a bit overkill at the moment. Though, it's not doing any good all boxed up god only knows where, so....
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h0ldthedoor said: That's it in a nutshell. With emphasis on if things don't turn out well. In all likelihood, with increased interest the MAPP torch will be broken out, but it seems a bit overkill at the moment. Though, it's not doing any good all boxed up god only knows where, so....
MAPP now where talking just don't melt the equipment
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Use propane not mapp.
Mapp makes your scalpels very dull quicker and also makes them sort of corode and pit as it get the blade so hot it reacts with oxygen in the air.
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Nice tip, thanks. Haven't used propane with it before, but those camp tanks should work fine right?
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I can think of a certain subset of people who probably shouldn't be growing felony narcotics then. Priorities.
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h0ldthedoor said: Nice tip, thanks. Haven't used propane with it before, but those camp tanks should work fine right?
Its what I use get a nice clean flame
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I can think of a certain subset of people who probably shouldn't be growing felony narcotics then. Priorities. 
My point exactly
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Yes you can use MAPP head on propane gas, but not a propane head on MAPP gas.
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Agreed inocuole, but posts about not being able to afford X or Y are not an uncommon occurrence.
Sweet, thanks mrmazdarx9.
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Sweet, thanks mrmazdarx9.
No worries mate
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I've only ever used propane heads with mapp and I've soldered my fair share of 1"+ copper
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you guys and your torches make me feel bad. i just use this little lamp i got on amazon for 7 bucks. works like a charm *shrug*
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At least it looks cool and isn't ghetto.
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Re: Alcohol lamp [Re: Inocuole]
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Look around sometimes you can find the torch head for about 12$ and the short Coleman tanks are 2.50-3$
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Re: Alcohol lamp [Re: d0urd3n]
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Thanks A gift from a good friend
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