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ShroomCorta
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Shroom Caps Turning Green
#23556052 - 08/19/16 07:23 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hi everyone. I am a total newbie in this hobby. I've recently bought my first PES Hawaiian SupaGro Kit from MagicMushroom, started the procedures as they said so, 1 week later the pins started forming, and since then the shrooms have grown quite good IMO, but now im on day 13, and the fruits are starting to have green caps and some of the shrooms are growing with weird cap shapes.. i've searched a lot and couldnt find anything about it. If anyone could help me with this... i've post some pics. thank you.


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Re: Shroom Caps Turning Green [Re: ShroomCorta]
#23556083 - 08/19/16 07:36 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm sure the fact that they can't breathe in that bag has something to do with it. Could probably use like 2 dozen holes.
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Re: Shroom Caps Turning Green [Re: ShroomCorta]
#23556085 - 08/19/16 07:37 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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You dont have fae... Round here we call those choke bags...build a sgfc to specs and prosper
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Inocuole
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Yeah those are definitely aborting, and it's definitely because of the fresh air situation.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20195542#20195542
Or just... poke a lot of holes in the bag. Next time you can do it yourself for far cheaper and get better results. Grow kits are made to separate people from their money.
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Until you build your SGFC, poke some holes in the bag at the very least
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Re: Shroom Caps Turning Green [Re: Peteyboy]
#23556102 - 08/19/16 07:46 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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hmm, yes i thought it may have to due with FAE, thank you a lot ! i guess those bags really really suck.. its my first time, didnt knew about the PF teks and making your own thing, only knew about it after buying the kit xD i cant make the SGFC at least until the first flush finishes !
should i make holes in the hole bag ? or more on the bottom for CO2 extracton or more on the up for Oxigen ? or is it the same ? i have a fan blowing wind to it a few hours a day .
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Re: Shroom Caps Turning Green [Re: ShroomCorta]
#23556105 - 08/19/16 07:47 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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And will the shrooms eventually get to their normal state if i improve FAE ?
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Re: Shroom Caps Turning Green [Re: ShroomCorta]
#23556132 - 08/19/16 08:00 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Don't worry man I got hosed even worse! I bought a kit and a bunch of Bullshit I didn't even end up taking out of the box. After I bought it I came here and immediately kicked myself in the ass, and then again when I threw most of the shit out hahaha!
I scrapped the "kit" idea and followed a couple teks to get started on here, and BOOM look at my signature....monster KSSS!
I also have some KILLER treasure coast cakes that should finish today and I'll be posting pics.
These guys are the pros follow their teks and do what they say, and you WILL be successful!
FAE should improve things, but you'll be hard pressed to get advice on a project around here if your not following the TEKS
Edited by Peteyboy (08/19/16 08:02 AM)
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ShroomCorta
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Re: Shroom Caps Turning Green [Re: Peteyboy]
#23556140 - 08/19/16 08:05 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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ahaha yeah it really turned out good for you i can see ! i've been searching for 13 days in this website now and i've seen A LOT, these guys here know the drill ! Next time i plant some shrooms, im defenitly make my own ! My goal is to make a frikin huuuuge harvest ! will sure be around here for the next months.
But just tell me if i will be able to continue growing from this kit ! coz im really excited about having my own shrooms( even if it is a kit xD ) will the problem be solved with FAE ? even for future flushes ? Props 
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Re: Shroom Caps Turning Green [Re: Peteyboy]
#23556145 - 08/19/16 08:09 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oh ok then yes ill defenetly start my own after this moneysucker kit xDD Thank you A LOT for the info !!
Good luck on the harvest bro
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Re: Shroom Caps Turning Green [Re: ShroomCorta]
#23556387 - 08/19/16 10:12 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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My first fruits I got in a makeshift mono/sgfc hybrid, and they too had green caps. But they also gave me an epic first trip!
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Re: Shroom Caps Turning Green [Re: Peteyboy]
#23556392 - 08/19/16 10:14 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Peteyboy said: I scrapped the "kit" idea and followed a couple teks to get started on here, and BOOM look at my signature....monster KSSS!
Conveniently unchecks "include signature" for just this post.
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Re: Shroom Caps Turning Green [Re: Inocuole]
#23556401 - 08/19/16 10:18 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Inocuole said:
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Peteyboy said: I scrapped the "kit" idea and followed a couple teks to get started on here, and BOOM look at my signature....monster KSSS!
Conveniently unchecks "include signature" for just this post. 
Hahahaha oh jeez...I was wondering how that happened! What a dumb dumb...
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Re: Shroom Caps Turning Green [Re: ShroomCorta]
#23558928 - 08/20/16 01:07 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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So, i've improved FAE a lot, and i've noticed better coloration on the shrooms, yet some of them are still green, and they are about to start opening the veils... if i harvest them with this greenish are they edible anyway ?
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Re: Shroom Caps Turning Green [Re: ShroomCorta]
#23558979 - 08/20/16 01:33 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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They aren't going to become not green at any point, that's a permanent physical change to the cap. They should still be edible. I think if they were no longer edible someone would've told you in the first response. Or hope anyway, but since I've eaten weirder shit than that, I feel pretty qualified to tell you it's safe.
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Re: Shroom Caps Turning Green [Re: Mad Season]
#23559019 - 08/20/16 01:54 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Mad Season said: My first fruits I got in a makeshift mono/sgfc hybrid, and they too had green caps. But they also gave me an epic first trip!
And they were much greener than yours op
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Re: Shroom Caps Turning Green [Re: Mad Season]
#23559896 - 08/20/16 12:49 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ok, that is pretty good to know !

can you tell me what is this dark green on the stem ? i've read it may be bruising or something, i tried to match with contaminations, but dont seem like it. the pic is bad quality but i hope you can see it... maybe it was because of my FAE problem. here are some more pics



im just afraid of eating some nasty things that are not supposed to ! glad if you can help me.
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Re: Shroom Caps Turning Green [Re: ShroomCorta]
#23560041 - 08/20/16 01:53 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Looks like bruising to me.
The problem with mold spores comes into play when you inhale them, not when you eat them.
That being said a few hours in your dehydrator @160F should kill any unwanted organisms that may be living on your shrooms.
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ShroomCorta
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So here it is ! The first harvest of Shrooms in my life ! This would not be possible if you guys didnt told me about the lack of FAE signals. I really appreciate it !
i got 160g of wets, from what i read i should get around 15-16 g of dried shrooms. And im using, inside a weedgrow tent, a fan, blowing wind directly, and a dehumidifier. I dont have a dehydrator for now, can you tell me if this technique is good anyway ? in terms of keeping the potency and safeness !?
Big hugs !
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Re: Shroom Caps Turning Green [Re: ShroomCorta]
#23562941 - 08/21/16 12:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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It should work but will take a long time...I was doing that for awhile but I got sick of it quick and sprung for a dehydrator. It was less then 40 bucks and man in a couple hours your cracker dry.
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Re: Shroom Caps Turning Green [Re: ShroomCorta]
#23563021 - 08/21/16 01:15 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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ShroomCorta said:

So here it is ! The first harvest of Shrooms in my life ! This would not be possible if you guys didnt told me about the lack of FAE signals. I really appreciate it !
i got 160g of wets, from what i read i should get around 15-16 g of dried shrooms. And im using, inside a weedgrow tent, a fan, blowing wind directly, and a dehumidifier. I dont have a dehydrator for now, can you tell me if this technique is good anyway ? in terms of keeping the potency and safeness !?
Big hugs ! 
I would suggest getting a dehydrator one of your best investments going forward. High heat (160F) and a breeze is what you need. I might try putting them on paper towels on a tray or in a paper bag and dry them down in a 160F oven. It won't be as fast as a dehydrator but faster than room air and a fan. Dehydrator would be 4 to 6 hours.
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Re: Shroom Caps Turning Green [Re: ShroomCorta]
#23563023 - 08/21/16 01:15 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I would spread them out a bit more if you're fan drying them. And I would eat some of those bad boys fresh!
As long as your ambient humidity is low the fan drying tek works fine. My region gets really humid sometimes so if I have any shrooms leftover I always store them in an airtight container or else they turn spongy.
The dehydrator is really the way to go, so if you're planning on fruiting anymore and especially if your increasing your production your going to want to buy a dehydrator at some point.
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Don't waste all your time and effort by not dehydrating them.. You won't even know their real weight, nor their real potency, if you're not getting them all the way dry. Heat is necessary in most climates to get the last bit of moisture out.
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Re: Shroom Caps Turning Green [Re: Inocuole]
#23563429 - 08/21/16 04:42 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I know this is off topic but could be relevant for OP...
Inocuole-just wanted to throw out 5 shrooms to you brotha, I used your Tea Tek last night on some wild cinctulus and it worked perfectly! After the extraction, the liquid was BLUE! INCREDIBLE! You da man!
OP- check out the link tor Tea in Inocuole's signature. You will definitely enjoy it!
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Re: Shroom Caps Turning Green [Re: ShroomCorta]
#23563485 - 08/21/16 05:00 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yes, after a few hours its already a lot dryer, it takes about 12 to 15 hours with my method. But its working. For future flushes and projects i will defenetly buy one ! i see it is a must have ! but cant really buy one right now
Now i have another question ( buggy mind xD ) i've filled the cake with water, its on cold temp. can i keep it in cold temp, so that i can put it a few hours later, and not on 12h mark ? if yes, should i drain the water after the 12h ? i know this is not related to contams but dunno, just askin xD
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Re: Shroom Caps Turning Green [Re: ShroomCorta]
#23563488 - 08/21/16 05:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's "working" but when it comes to the last bit, it won't "work". You can definitely use a fan to dry mushrooms 90% of the way, but they won't get any drier than the ambient humidity level without the application of heat. That last 10% of moisture will make your mushrooms weigh twice as much, and their potency will be severely diminished within a couple weeks. Don't try to trip off a gram if you don't get them all the way dry. 
I'm not sure what you're asking about the temp of the water... Filling a cake with water? Dunking? Whatever the ambient temp is will be fine for dunking.. Cold could have negative consequences.
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Re: Shroom Caps Turning Green [Re: Inocuole]
#23563605 - 08/21/16 05:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ok ill take it out of the cold, but its been there for 12h :s i read i had to put it in the cold for dunking and reflush... my real question is, i cant put the cake fruiting right now, can i store it for later use after dunking ?
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Re: Shroom Caps Turning Green [Re: ShroomCorta]
#23563606 - 08/21/16 05:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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And, my dehumidifier is making heat, and inside the weedgrowtent is hot, how much temp do i need to get that last 10% ?
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Re: Shroom Caps Turning Green [Re: ShroomCorta]
#23563608 - 08/21/16 05:42 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Is there a particular reason you can't put the cake into fruiting when it's ready? Stalling colonized substrate can hurt the bottom line a bit..
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Re: Shroom Caps Turning Green [Re: Inocuole]
#23563635 - 08/21/16 05:50 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yes there is of course. i can only put it tomorrow, the best way to avoid risk is to leave the water or to drain it ? its gonna be a 10h perioud until i can put them.
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Re: Shroom Caps Turning Green [Re: ShroomCorta]
#23563644 - 08/21/16 05:53 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
ShroomCorta said:
my real question is, i cant put the cake fruiting right now, can i store it for later use after dunking ?
Put it in a plastic bag and tie the top tight, put it somewhere it get hits by sunlight.
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Inocuole
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Re: Shroom Caps Turning Green [Re: ShroomCorta]
#23563646 - 08/21/16 05:53 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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..... If there's a reason a grown adult can't fruit a cake at a certain time in their own home, I don't wanna know it.
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Re: Shroom Caps Turning Green [Re: Inocuole]
#23563672 - 08/21/16 06:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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It is better you dont know ahaha anyway, thank you a lot for the information and sorry for the silly questions !
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