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Solidarity among whites = racist? * 1
    #23555816 - 08/19/16 03:11 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

If you think about it the concept of solidarity among whites (especially white christians) is very unfashionable - you know cos when whites get together we oppress everyone else. I think this is what minorities are most afraid of at least in Europe.

On the other hand there are certain minorities that have loads of solidarity - muslims I'm looking at you... I'm pretty sure blacks have some solidarity (just check out BLM) but apparently they also kill each other a lot in the US, Chinese (chinatown), Indian, Hispanic etc

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Re: Solidarity among whites = racist? [Re: boilingpoint]
    #23555826 - 08/19/16 03:22 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I use to think this way too. I'm glad I don't anymore. Read dude, read.

My thoughts, buy a book.


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Re: Solidarity among whites = racist? [Re: SkagitHunter]
    #23556041 - 08/19/16 07:16 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I use to think this way too. I'm glad I don't anymore. Read dude, read.

My thoughts, buy a book.





What do you mean? How do I think? Which book? Be specific.

I'm just inviting debate that's all.


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Re: Solidarity among whites = racist? [Re: boilingpoint]
    #23556063 - 08/19/16 07:27 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Solidarity by whites  equals KKK or... Hitler ...  There is nothing wrong with white solidarity as long as you guys don't go off killing undesirables.


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Re: Solidarity among whites = racist? [Re: Kinko]
    #23556661 - 08/19/16 12:10 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I don't strongly identify with the white race even though society classifies me as being white. That being said the society we live in is so race conscious because of the schools that it makes it so I would never have kids with a non-white person because in our society it may make the child confused to have a mixed race identity.

If the schools and media were not talking about "white privilege" and "whiteness" constantly I maybe would be open to dating outside my race because in reality I dont think race means a lot in terms of identity but I not only have to take my opinion into account I also have to consider the prevailing concepts taught in schools and the schools place a lot of emphasis on race so because of that I really am forced to not date outside my race.

Even if I was to homeschool any future kids they would have race consciousness imposed upon them by society because most of society is educated by the public schools.

I dont particularly even like white people but things have gotten to the point where I dont really even want to be around non-whites anymore because the schools and media have taught them that its normal to complain about whites and a lot of them treat whites like whites are some sort of parent thats supposed to solve their problems.


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Re: Solidarity among whites = racist? [Re: lines] * 1
    #23557703 - 08/19/16 05:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I don't strongly identify with the white race even though society classifies me as being white. That being said the society we live in is so race conscious because of the schools that it makes it so I would never have kids with a non-white person because in our society it may make the child confused to have a mixed race identity.

If the schools and media were not talking about "white privilege" and "whiteness" constantly I maybe would be open to dating outside my race because in reality I dont think race means a lot in terms of identity but I not only have to take my opinion into account I also have to consider the prevailing concepts taught in schools and the schools place a lot of emphasis on race so because of that I really am forced to not date outside my race.

Even if I was to homeschool any future kids they would have race consciousness imposed upon them by society because most of society is educated by the public schools.

I dont particularly even like white people but things have gotten to the point where I dont really even want to be around non-whites anymore because the schools and media have taught them that its normal to complain about whites and a lot of them treat whites like whites are some sort of parent thats supposed to solve their problems.



I've heard a lot of crazy here but you win.
The name of this thread says it all without opening but I had to. I must be the only black guy here and some of the stuff I read is just pure comedy.

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Re: Solidarity among whites = racist? [Re: spock]
    #23557794 - 08/19/16 06:21 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

To bad nimrod built the tower of babel and them fucking gods came down and seperated mankind through skin and language...Oldest trick in the book..that the gods ever played on mankind..that his skin divided and conquered. The Mitochondrial eve originated in east africa...which is the oldest female every human on the planet is actually related to... Its all a trick ......the eve was black from east africa every man woman and child on planet Earth is descendants from an eastern african woman...so dont let the gods manipulation fool you...one that top elitist occult info insiders of ashkenazi descendants know is a Huge red trigger which they push cause they know how it sends this physical realm into choas everytime....dont be so easily played any color you come...


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Re: Solidarity among whites = racist? [Re: spock]
    #23557844 - 08/19/16 06:35 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I've heard a lot of crazy here but you win.
The name of this thread says it all without opening but I had to. I must be the only black guy here and some of the stuff I read is just pure comedy.

Peace
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How about being specific as to what is 'pure comedy' - otherwise you might as well just post 'you are wrong' and leave it at that.

The 'white privilege' stuff is a load of BS. The privilege would be living amongst a racial majority yes.... but the privilege isn't much when like I said earlier there isn't huge solidarity among whites and actually a lot of minorities get a big advantage from this.


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Re: Solidarity among whites = racist? [Re: theGODSmademedoit]
    #23557939 - 08/19/16 07:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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To bad nimrod built the tower of babel and them fucking gods came down and seperated mankind through skin and language...Oldest trick in the book..that the gods ever played on mankind..that his skin divided and conquered. The Mitochondrial eve originated in east africa...which is the oldest female every human on the planet is actually related to... Its all a trick ......the eve was black from east africa every man woman and child on planet Earth is descendants from an eastern african woman...so dont let the gods manipulation fool you...one that top elitist occult info insiders of ashkenazi descendants know is a Huge red trigger which they push cause they know how it sends this physical realm into choas everytime....dont be so easily played any color you come...



Not sure if you are talking to me but if so then yes. I agree.

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Re: Solidarity among whites = racist? [Re: boilingpoint]
    #23557944 - 08/19/16 07:06 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I used to hang out on a Rez quite a bit, I swear almost every native I knew had "Native Pride" tattooed on them somewhere, I always teased them that I was gonna get a "White Pride" tat:lol:
They never saw the humor in it...


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Re: Solidarity among whites = racist? [Re: boilingpoint] * 1
    #23558035 - 08/19/16 07:35 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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spock said:
I've heard a lot of crazy here but you win.
The name of this thread says it all without opening but I had to. I must be the only black guy here and some of the stuff I read is just pure comedy.

Peace
Spock





How about being specific as to what is 'pure comedy' - otherwise you might as well just post 'you are wrong' and leave it at that.





"I would never have kids with a non-white person because in our society it may make the child confused to have a mixed race identity."

"I dont particularly even like white people but things have gotten to the point where I dont really even want to be around non-whites"

"I really am forced to not date outside my race"

"treat whites like whites are some sort of parent thats supposed to solve their problems."

As someone who has white and black in my family and have always lived around both I find this funny. I've never seen this "confusion of a mixed race identity". And I'm a lot older than most here so I wonder where this viewpoint comes from. Treating whites like parents just because they are white.lol. "I don't like white people but I REALLY don't like black people"

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Re: Solidarity among whites = racist? [Re: spock]
    #23558810 - 08/19/16 11:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

It's actually a prevailing theme in society that Whites are supposed to take on a parental role by solving the problems of minority communities. Like I said I don't even like White people but it's too damn emotionally draining to have to navigate non-White peoples racial issues so I would rather just not be around them, there is only so much I can do during the day. I have a life of my own, I can't spend all my time listening to the problems of communities that no matter how much I do to help them will reward me with more complaints about my race. I don't even like my race but I'm not a masochist. I have some self-respect.

Also another reason I don't like being around non-Whites is because it makes me feel like a neutered dog being around non-neutered dogs being around them because they often express racial pride but I know I would face a lot of condemnation if I were to express racial pride. And so the prohibition against Whites expressing racial pride is a form of social castration that Whites face. And one of the reasons I don't even like Whites is because Whites are the main ones enforcing the doubble standards against White people. And so many Whites are very annoying to me.

In reality I don't have White pride but it just makes me feel socially castrated knowing I am prevented by society from expressing it and it makes me feel uncomfortable to be around racial groups who are able to openly express their pride.

But the people who claim White pride usually I find very annoying because of how negative they are. So my feelings on this are complex and I would be open to spending time with non-Whites if the schools and media didn't ruin race relations but the way things are in society it forces me to "stick with my own". I don't even like it but it is what it is. I got to live in the world the way it is.


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Re: Solidarity among whites = racist? [Re: boilingpoint]
    #23558898 - 08/20/16 12:46 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I use to think this way too. I'm glad I don't anymore. Read dude, read.

My thoughts, buy a book.





What do you mean? How do I think? Which book? Be specific.

I'm just inviting debate that's all.



I mean if you read more you'll be less ignorant. It really doesn't matter what you read. At this point you'd benefit by reading the back of a shampoo bottle.

This may help bring you back to reality: what is your motivation for having white pride?
Does it have anything to do with minority pride? My guess is yes.
I'm sure you'd argue no, so I'll pose another question.
Wouldn't it be more effective to celebrate your heritage than your skin color?


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Re: Solidarity among whites = racist? [Re: SkagitHunter]
    #23558938 - 08/20/16 01:12 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Wouldn't it be more effective to celebrate your heritage than your skin color?




Skagi while on the one hand you have a point about heritage being more important than skin color, things like family traditions and geneaology and etc, I have to say you are placing an unreasonable burden on one particular race. No one is telling non-White races to celebrate their heritage rather than skin color. Furthermore we also have to keep in mind that the society is treating Whites as an ethnic group. And even though it may be technically inaccurate to make the claim that Whites are an ethnic group we have to accept the fact that functionally Whites are an ethnic group based on the way society treats Whites.

Similarly we can say that Native American is not a real ethnicity and that ethnicity for the Native American is more about what tribe they are from. But Native Americans were seen as one group by the European colonists and because of that it would have made sense for Native Americans to see themselves as being Native Americans because acting from that understanding was necessary considering they were treated as being part of one monolithic group.

Not all women are the same but its necessary for women to have "woman" as a part of their identity because of the fact society treats women as being part of a group.

And the comment you made about the shampoo bottle was really uncalled for and it betrayed some underlying nastiness. And having a bit of nastiness is necessary in this society but it just really doesn't seem necessary for this particular discussion though.


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Re: Solidarity among whites = racist? [Re: SkagitHunter]
    #23559128 - 08/20/16 04:26 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I mean if you read more you'll be less ignorant. It really doesn't matter what you read. At this point you'd benefit by reading the back of a shampoo bottle.

This may help bring you back to reality: what is your motivation for having white pride?
Does it have anything to do with minority pride? My guess is yes.
I'm sure you'd argue no, so I'll pose another question.
Wouldn't it be more effective to celebrate your heritage than your skin color?





If you say something that doesn't conform to the present day PC narrative then the word 'ignorant' is often fired back at you... usually without any counter arguments. I merely made an observation that 'anti-racism' *seems* to also mean anti-solidarity among the group politically known as 'white people' of which I am a part of.

"Wouldn't it be more effective to celebrate your heritage than your skin color?"

Actually that is a good point and I am very proud of my heritage (half English, half French European) but it still annoys me if some minority with a weird, long ass name comes up to me and says I have 'white privilege'. Do you know why? It shows he's not treating me as an individual and is treating me more as a representative of the group 'white people' - therefore he's racist right? Or am I not allowed to say that about a minority?


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Re: Solidarity among whites = racist? [Re: boilingpoint]
    #23559500 - 08/20/16 09:44 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Read more huffington post!:cookiemonster:


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Re: Solidarity among whites = racist? [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
    #23559659 - 08/20/16 10:56 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

So your answer to my first question was yes. Meaning you only want to celebrate white pride in response to minority pride. Meaning your premise for this entire thread is bitterness. And I don't say ignorant because you don't conform. I say it because you've obviously been kicked by a horse.


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Re: Solidarity among whites = racist? [Re: SkagitHunter]
    #23559701 - 08/20/16 11:21 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Skagi whites are the minority. We live in a global world and whites are the racial group with the least members.

Are you saying Whites should try to be superior to nonWhites by avoiding racial pride, on a subconscious level do you think Whites should adhere to superior standards? Do you subconsciously think Whites are superior?

People have instincts for a reason. Having racial pride isnt good or bad. Its clear our society is going too far with criticizing White people. Im somewhat of a liberal at heart. My natural inclination is to be critical of White people. But society has taken things way too far and things are getting out of hand to the extent where I think Whites really do have to stand up for themselves and speak against antiWhite racism.

And I will fully support White pride as long as society continues to make antiWhite racism mainstream. People have to stand up for themselves and right now antiWhite sentiment is mainstream. Its not right. Groups that are ridiculed have a right to stand up for themselves.


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Re: Solidarity among whites = racist? [Re: SkagitHunter]
    #23559862 - 08/20/16 12:37 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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So your answer to my first question was yes. Meaning you only want to celebrate white pride in response to minority pride. Meaning your premise for this entire thread is bitterness. And I don't say ignorant because you don't conform. I say it because you've obviously been kicked by a horse.





errr, I think you sound bitter to be honest. In terms of the racial prejudice displayed by minorities I think that yes there is a lack of balance absolutely. Also it seems as though it's a 'minorities vs whites' situation, which is bullshit.

Again I'm only proud of my 'whiteness' inasmuch as I'm proud of being a true European - i.e. being from Europe, the continent that founded all western first world countries - in other words the envy of the world.

In fact a lot of minorities are very bitter and vindictive towards 'whites' since they perceive 'us' as having an advantage. In fact it's just culture - despite a good few errors along the way, traditional western culture is far and away the best.

You can throw insults but it basically confirms you don't have much of an argument.


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Re: Solidarity among whites = racist? [Re: boilingpoint]
    #23559921 - 08/20/16 01:00 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

:facepalm:
Try Howard Zinn's A People's History of the United States
I guarantee you'll feel silly


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