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Re: What's that 'one thing' you really screwed up? [Re: Psychedel.EXE]
    #23556394 - 08/19/16 10:14 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I have shared this experience before, but this thread is where it belongs.
So the first time around I did BRF cakes, and I actually did pretty good. Cron helped me a bit back then. I had a great 3 flushes before the cakes started to wind down and turn. My mistake came when I harvested them, I dried them out in front of a box fan in the middle of humid as shit summer. They didnt dry up good until they got to about the 3rd day, even then it wasn't totally cracker dry. Those little fuckers got me so sick. TWICE! Lesson learned. Get a dehydrator.
Then when I moved onto grain, I stupidly went MS syringe>grain. I tried like that probably 6-8 times and only had 1 phenomenal tub. The rest were bacterial and produced minimal results. I almost just quit altogether but instead went on hiatus then came back and dove right into agar. I cant get over how much better I am now with the help of agar and the kind assholes around here. Thanks guys!


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Re: What's that 'one thing' you really screwed up? [Re: Psychedel.EXE]
    #23556873 - 08/19/16 01:16 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Psychedel.EXE said:
I have shared this experience before, but this thread is where it belongs.
So the first time around I did BRF cakes, and I actually did pretty good. Cron helped me a bit back then. I had a great 3 flushes before the cakes started to wind down and turn. My mistake came when I harvested them, I dried them out in front of a box fan in the middle of humid as shit summer. They didnt dry up good until they got to about the 3rd day, even then it wasn't totally cracker dry. Those little fuckers got me so sick. TWICE! Lesson learned. Get a dehydrator.
Then when I moved onto grain, I stupidly went MS syringe>grain. I tried like that probably 6-8 times and only had 1 phenomenal tub. The rest were bacterial and produced minimal results. I almost just quit altogether but instead went on hiatus then came back and dove right into agar. I cant get over how much better I am now with the help of agar and the kind assholes around here. Thanks guys!




My current and first monotub is a MS > Grain...

*Talks to Tub*
(Just give me one sexy fruit little tub... just one. I promise I'll be good and clone you right...I promise!)

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Re: What's that 'one thing' you really screwed up? [Re: morty422]
    #23556885 - 08/19/16 01:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I rinsed all my perlite and set up my SGFC and then realized I needed to dunk and roll.  Oh well I'll put them in there tomorrow.


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Re: What's that 'one thing' you really screwed up? [Re: Inocuole]
    #23556889 - 08/19/16 01:20 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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morty422 said:
You're not perfect- I know you fucked that shit up the first time you tried it... What did you screw up, and how did you do it?





Well once I met this lady, banged her, and took off, and I didn't wrap it up.  That was quite some time back... if there were a child I think they'd potentially be old enough to post here already..

I regret it though, because sometimes I think about that child I've never met and how I never got to tell him things like "shut up and eat your french fries" or "I'll give you something to cry about".




Damn man....

I one time spawned a tub in a ziplok brand tub...had a gasketed seal all the way around the lid with four latches...it didn't allow for enough gas exchange or something because shit went bad real quick....


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Re: What's that 'one thing' you really screwed up? [Re: morty422]
    #23556951 - 08/19/16 01:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I started "growing" just over a year ago because a friend bought me a kit with 6 PF jars and a Penis Envy syringe. So I tried following the "instructions" to the letter, but they were actually pretty vague and I ended up with my colonized cakes in a tiny little tub on some moist perlite, but no holes at all. So after a few weeks, with no misting or fanning, just looking at them every few days, the cakes were a dark blue color from drying out and not a shroom in sight.

Then I joined this website and started trying to fix it, so I drilled holes in the tiny box and put it RIGHT UNDER THE AC VENT because I thought that would help with air exchange. Then I did a little more reading (but not enough) and decided to put some perlite on top of the cakes for them to draw moisture from because they were still inexplicably dried out.

Somehow my first grow ended up fruiting, and I have pictures and I'll post a thread one day when it hurts a little less so everyone can laugh their ass off. Since then I did some better cakes, an underwhelming bulk tray and finally some very happy monotubs, and now I'm experimenting with my first agar clones. So the story ends well. lol


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Invisibled0urd3n
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Re: What's that 'one thing' you really screwed up? [Re: hobofungus]
    #23557052 - 08/19/16 02:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Starting off with PF Tek. Should have just gone straight to bulk and agar. Which is what I did after my first grow.

Not really a big screw up. Just something I would have done differently.

Biggest thing is probably that I used a bic lighter and alcohol lamp on scalpels while doing agar work.

Got a lot of contam issues that I think was from that. Because my sterile technique was actually not too horrible starting off. I'm sort of OCD so that's probably partly why :lol:

Other than that probably just not learning and buy slants earlier. Lost some good cultures because of it.

Nothing too horrible I guess. Luckily these guys on the forum have saved me from any huge fuck ups. :wink:


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Invisiblemorty422
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Re: What's that 'one thing' you really screwed up? [Re: hobofungus]
    #23557059 - 08/19/16 02:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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hobofungus said:
I started "growing" just over a year ago because a friend bought me a kit with 6 PF jars and a Penis Envy syringe. So I tried following the "instructions" to the letter, but they were actually pretty vague and I ended up with my colonized cakes in a tiny little tub on some moist perlite, but no holes at all. So after a few weeks, with no misting or fanning, just looking at them every few days, the cakes were a dark blue color from drying out and not a shroom in sight.

Then I joined this website and started trying to fix it, so I drilled holes in the tiny box and put it RIGHT UNDER THE AC VENT because I thought that would help with air exchange. Then I did a little more reading (but not enough) and decided to put some perlite on top of the cakes for them to draw moisture from because they were still inexplicably dried out.

Somehow my first grow ended up fruiting, and I have pictures and I'll post a thread one day when it hurts a little less so everyone can laugh their ass off. Since then I did some better cakes, an underwhelming bulk tray and finally some very happy monotubs, and now I'm experimenting with my first agar clones. So the story ends well. lol




Haha. Perlite on TOP of the substrate eh? Lmao.  That's awesome. Please post pics when you can, that would be hilarious to view!

Thanks for sharing. Brightened my day for sure. Hehe


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Re: What's that 'one thing' you really screwed up? [Re: d0urd3n]
    #23557074 - 08/19/16 02:23 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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d0urd3n said:
Starting off with PF Tek. Should have just gone straight to bulk and agar. Which is what I did after my first grow.

Not really a big screw up. Just something I would have done differently.

Biggest thing is probably that I used a bic lighter and alcohol lamp on scalpels while doing agar work.

Got a lot of contam issues that I think was from that. Because my sterile technique was actually not too horrible starting off. I'm sort of OCD so that's probably partly why :lol:

Other than that probably just not learning and buy slants earlier. Lost some good cultures because of it.

Nothing too horrible I guess. Luckily these guys on the forum have saved me from any huge fuck ups. :wink:



What is you're tek for sterilizing your agar instruments now? I'm about to hop into agar and would like to know how you do that.

I should probably read a tek soon, eh? I've got Pasty plates ready -but haven't began too much reading on the actual hands on process yet.

I work for a commercial grower (oysters mostly/ Hericium soon) and intend to go and watch our agar/active guy work soon. I'm always too busy stuffing straw though, so there's not too much time for shadowing and apprenticing...


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Invisibled0urd3n
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Re: What's that 'one thing' you really screwed up? [Re: morty422]
    #23557099 - 08/19/16 02:33 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

ul100 bernzomatic

Buy that and a tank. Flame your scalpel between each transfer. Munch has some good videos on agar with pasty plates I believe. I'd find a link but I'm on my phone at work


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Re: What's that 'one thing' you really screwed up? [Re: d0urd3n]
    #23557205 - 08/19/16 03:21 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I basically use the same torch as you except mine I have to click a button to get it going.
I wanna get one of these tho the continuous flame would help huge.

A little tip. Get the short fat green propane tanks for camping rather than the tall blue or yellow cylinders  for plumbing or whatever. Theyre cheaper and are less likely to tip over


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Re: What's that 'one thing' you really screwed up? [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23557210 - 08/19/16 03:23 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I think those tips are like 10$ man


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Re: What's that 'one thing' you really screwed up? [Re: Boogieman47]
    #23557214 - 08/19/16 03:24 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Really? I bought mine for like 50 if I remember correctly. Came with a cylinder
Figured the other ones would be the same price roughly and was putting off getting it.


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Re: What's that 'one thing' you really screwed up? [Re: morty422]
    #23557220 - 08/19/16 03:26 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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morty422 said:
What is you're tek for sterilizing your agar instruments now? I'm about to hop into agar and would like to know how you do that.

I should probably read a tek soon, eh? I've got Pasty plates ready -but haven't began too much reading on the actual hands on process yet.





I just started working with pasty plates a couple weeks ago, and so far for all my agar work I've been just putting the instruments inside their own clean jar, and then PCing that with whatever else I have to PC at the time (if nothing, I make something up lol). I foil the top of the jar, take off foil and open jar in the SAB, and flame sterilize between every transfer.

It's been working well so far, I have some really pretty clones now. But I'd be very interested to know if there's an easier way, or if that much sterilization is overkill and I could just boil everything first. haha


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Re: What's that 'one thing' you really screwed up? [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23557256 - 08/19/16 03:38 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I fucked up plenty. One of my biggest regrets (in terms of mush cult), is buying a shitty kit when i started.

I was a bit intimidated by bulk, and it took a while to really wrap my head around everything. So i got a mycodome. I wasted about $200 on that bs.

I could have gotten a PC, and gone straight to agar and bulk. But it seemed confusing to me, probably from reading so much dated and contradictory information. A 'guaranteed kit' just seemed safer. The only part i use now, is the 3gal. Bucket it came with. A $200 bucket, basically. 

Then, going to bulk, i got a shit 8qt PC that only went to 11psi...

Like Tommy boy said, "you want a guarantee, i can take a shit in a cardboard box and slap a guarantee on it."


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Re: What's that 'one thing' you really screwed up? [Re: morty422]
    #23557272 - 08/19/16 03:43 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

My first fuck up was not enough FAE, it caused the cake to look.. fluffy. So I thought it was a cobweb mold. I tossed a perfectly good cake after waiting impatiently for a month.


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Re: What's that 'one thing' you really screwed up? [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #23557288 - 08/19/16 03:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Wowsers, seems like there's heaps that can go wrong, keep'em coming , a noob's gotta learn !


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Re: What's that 'one thing' you really screwed up? [Re: ozzinated]
    #23557342 - 08/19/16 04:02 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: What's that 'one thing' you really screwed up? [Re: morty422]
    #23557382 - 08/19/16 04:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

letting grain soak too long and filling up grain jars a bit too much.  You could do this hobby forever and u'll always be making mistakes and tweaking your techniques it never ends haha


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Re: What's that 'one thing' you really screwed up? [Re: frankwhite85]
    #23557493 - 08/19/16 04:55 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Only fuck ups for me is my grain prep, ended up too wet and bacteria reared its ugly head.
No other real fuckups thanks to the great people on this site. Reading and listening will get you far.


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Re: What's that 'one thing' you really screwed up? [Re: morty422]
    #23557561 - 08/19/16 05:12 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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morty422 said:
You're not perfect- I know you fucked that shit up the first time you tried it... What did you screw up, and how did you do it?

*If you don't respond-may all your grows be cursed forever and eternity...*

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I'll start off the post by sharing this:
The first time I tried to cultivate BRF jars- I flamed the needle once and wiped down the needle with a paper towel soaked with oust (air sanitizer) between every inoculation. Needless to say, every single one of my jars except #1 had some nasty contams in it. I threw away 11 jars out of 12 and fruited ONE lonely jar. After that, I didn't attempt to grow cubensis for another 4-5 years, and here I am now. Lol
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yeah but how much did that one cake yield? lol


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