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My psyche moved to Arizona, and she left a substitute doc, a muslim dude. When I was waiting, I noticed this chick came out of his office crying, i was like WTF.
So I went in he looked at my record--didn't shake my hand, introduce himself, anything. Then he said, 'Well, let me tell you. I don't understand ADHD. I don't treat it. You know, Doctor W, I saw 4 of her patients today, they are all on really high doses of adderall. I said '50mg?' He said, 'that's a really high dose. I never prescribe more than 15mg if i have to.
At this point I started laughing. he asked me what. i said, you know, i been using and abusing amphetamine since 1970. Injecting 500mg of meth is a starter dose.... 
He was like, What? He said. you know, you on 40, 50mg of adderall, you are activating your dopamine receptors, you are going to end upwith parkinsons disease or alzheimers, or with severe brain disease if you keep using adderall.
I said 'really>'
he said, 'I'm on the board of neauropsychiatry at UCSD. Amphetamines are really bad for the brain. I told him I just read 2 studies that said moderate dose adderall is actuall neuroprotective. he got indignant.
he said, i don't treat ADHD. I dont believe it. I don't treat symptoms. I treat disease. i called up the office and told them not to send any more of Dr. W's patients who are on adderall.
I said, should I see you again? He said, I dont think I can help you.
I stood up, told him, you know, I don't need to get it by scrip. You know how easy it is to get on the streets? he gave me a dirty look and i walked out saying, 'you don't know what the fuck you are talking about'
This guy has got to be the most condenscending, arrogant fucking prick I have ever encountered in the medical industry. In fact, he probably should be reported.
Oh well. Time to crank up the lab. I got my glassware in 2 weeks.
This is a prime example of cultural bias against drugs. PS...i dont really need it anyway. But it sure helps with work.
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Damn bro, so the doctor wouldn't prescribe you unnecessary meds? Harsh.
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Fuch him. Time to go shopping. Dr shopping is the best kind of shopping Open a telephone book and pick any other dr in your city...any of them will prescribe addies...any of them
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clock_of_omens said: Damn bro, so the doctor wouldn't prescribe you unnecessary meds. Harsh.
Yeah haha those MUSLIMS amirite
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that's not what I said. This is the overall description:
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I'm sure the dude was a dickhead
I hate to break it to you though, speed is terrible for your brain
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I hate to break it to you though, speed is terrible for your brain
Im sure it is-but not in therapeutic doses.
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clock_of_omens said: Damn bro, so the doctor wouldn't prescribe you unnecessary meds? Harsh.
that's not what I said.
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Oh no?
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big·ot [ˈbiɡət] NOUN
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Bro, he just wants some amps like every other American...chill
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Dude yeah Muslim head shrinks are the worst. The one shrink who had me forcible commitment was Muslim . Wouldn't talk to my doctors and had my volunteer commitment turned over . Was in the nut house for more than a week because of that fuck face. He also took all my meds gave me shit ton of anti physios and seizure meds with aggressive side effects.
The worst doctors I've ever had have been super religious one way or another.
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That's how this reads by far. He called you on u wanting a Amps not needing them (like a good doc should do) . Also as an adult you should know if you go into to a docs office barking up one specific tree like adderal and you try and tell tell the PHd he doesn't know anything because of the studies you read . You're lucky he just said ( I don't think I can help you). Next time you say, I have been having debilitating focus issue and it affects my work tremendously . Can you give me ANYTHING to help my attention and energy a bit? Because then they don't think you know what pill you want (therefore not trying to get them without an issue)
It's a little like pussy pretend you dont want it and you'll get it more
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My point was he made no attempt to even ascertain if anything was there. I know one thing--I'm working like shit now compared to when i was on amps--and he cold-turkeyed every single adderall patient of Dr. W. That isn't cool.
Whats bad is that low dose amps dont cause alzheimers, parkinsons or brain damage. Sorry, it just isn't true.
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I had a mormon psyche tell me once that Wellbutrin was just as effective as amp for ADD; that the effects were the same.
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Maybe more doctors should be like OP's Muslim who don't prescribe people medications based on retarded shit like claiming not to be able to focus. Pills aren't the solution to all problems.
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hahahaha
yeah good luck selling that in present day America. Half of the population is convinced they need pills and the other half is going to lie and cheat to get pills.
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ADD is not a real disease
Doctors are not supposed to be drug dealers
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I agree the doc was a dickhead but I don't think it's just a Muslim thing to be a fru-fru new-age dick who eschews evidence-based medicine in favor of being a sanctimonious prick. I hear white people saying this kind of shit all the time.
I should know, medicinal doses of stimulants might as well be a different drug from recreational doses, but there's no shortage of dicks who will call me a tweaker or a freak for taking medicines that enable me to be happy and healthy, and I don't notice a special preponderance of Muslims in this population.
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starfire_xes said: OK Doctor Clock. I can see you have your Phd.
Lol nice ad hom. I hope you see the irony in your having posted this thread about you arguing with someone who does have a doctorate saying the same thing as me.
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Damn, how did the entire history of the human race manage to accomplish something as difficult as focusing before pills?
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A doctor being hesitant to prescribe strong psychiatric medicine is a (very) good thing, America has an overwhelmingly large over-prescription problem.
His faith probably has nothing to do with your experience went whatsoever. If you're familiar with what in the religion would apply here, please enlighten us. A cultural bias against drugs? Adderall is plain illegal in Australia and some other countries, and many countries have a max prescribed dose of 20-30mg amphetamine total daily. Prescription amps are extremely rare in the U.K. and several countries in the E.U.
"Causing Parkinson's" isn't black and white. Amphetamines exhaust dopamine, Parkinson's is related to dopamine function. I'd love to see the study on amphetamine being a neuroprotectant. Nothing comes up on Google Scholar. Methamphetamine at extremely low doses has shown to possibly act as a neuroprotectant in some ways after traumatic brain injury [cite]. That in no way means it should be a neuroprotectant taken normally or especially regularly.
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credibility is shot when you make a clearly untrue statement like '40mg of adderall causes alzheimers or parkinsons.'
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Forgive me if I don't trust your reporting of what he actually said.
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Prove that a non-existent condition does not exist? The whole premise is childish, you cannot quantify an attention span.
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ok. Your forgiven. But its exactly what he said.
Its just 'drugs are bad' rhetoric.
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Explain what your rhetoric is besides being butthurt that the MUSLIM wouldn't feed your addiction, junkie
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Junkies take heroin. Rhetoric is claiming a drug does something bad that it doesnt TOOL.
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Sometimes I have a hard time believing you're a genius
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Actually the entire premise of this thread has been a pretty quickly transparent platform for you to do your usually shitty posting gimmick, which is juvenile internet racism and regurgitating tired right-wing rhetoric that everyone has heard a thousand times.
Boohoo, the mean muslim doc is skeptical of my admittedly nonexistent condition and won't feed me pills.
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My post was rhetorical, but I was genuinely asking for the study on amphetamines being neuroprotective.
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starfire_xes said: My point was he made no attempt to even ascertain if anything was there. I know one thing--I'm working like shit now compared to when i was on amps--and he cold-turkeyed every single adderall patient of Dr. W. That isn't cool.
Whats bad is that low dose amps dont cause alzheimers, parkinsons or brain damage. Sorry, it just isn't true.
No doubt that's what what really should've happened ,he should've investigated it more . Docs with young people 20-30 immediately blacklist you if you mention what you think would be good for you even if it really would be good for you. What I posted though is how to get a constant adderal script. Also if they want to put you on something retarded like Vyvanse or Straterra tell them you'll try it and the next visit say that it made you sick but felt u could focus a little better. Because they will peg it as a bad reaction and give u something like adderal which believe it or not doesn't have many side effects as far as stims go..
So yeah doc was an ass but it's incredibly intricate to get these scripts at a young age. My buddy prefers adderal for work and sometimes he really does need some adderal to make it through work but he can't get a script to save his life. So he takes caffeine pills and I swear they work better for focus sometimes then adderal
Anyway I hope you can get treated because that actually could be what u need
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he is a fuckwad thats for sure. Not for me, i could care less. You know how EASY it is to get speed? What about people that have been on a regime for years and suddenly are cold-turkeyed? That's fucked up. When I had liver disease really bad, i would have been devestated. The point is, he didn't even make the vaguest attempt to find out about his patients.
What a fucking prick. Like I said, i knew a moromon psyche with the same mindset. Tried to tell me Bupropion has the same effect.
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Prove that a non-existent condition does not exist? The whole premise is childish, you cannot quantify an attention span.
ADD is a cop out for: parents with "misbehaving" children adults who lack discipline drug dealers in white coats
try the abundance of data and brain scans for the disorder's set of symptoms. i really hate seeing this kind of stuff, it's like the rhetoric i see from people claiming that vaccines cause autism, when clearly the data we have show's otherwise.
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my niece went 3 years without being able to learn to read. then, 15mg adderall--she was reading in about 4 weeks. She stopped taking it when she was 12,
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starfire_xes said: he is a fuckwad thats for sure. Not for me, i could care less. You know how EASY it is to get speed? What about people that have been on a regime for years and suddenly are cold-turkeyed? That's fucked up. When I had liver disease really bad, i would have been devestated. The point is, he didn't even make the vaguest attempt to find out about his patients.
What a fucking prick. Like I said, i knew a moromon psyche with the same mindset. Tried to tell me Bupropion has the same effect. 
Yeah that's one thing I can say for sure the religious beliefs of the Doctor has nothing to do with it. I've had my psychiatrist condemned me nearly to hell once for telling him I was thinking about using kava and or Kratom . He works emergency psychiatric so gets a lot of mental patients that's probably tell them they took kava and really took some psychedelic. Anyway immediately said how he had to treat someone that had a "schizo episode" brought upon by only large amounts of kava and almost died . I called bs and still think that guy probably lied to him because it's a legal substance.Then he had to google Kratom to tell me not to use it
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To be fair, most doctors in general aren't really drug-savvy --- even the psychiatrists. none of my physicians new what Salvia Divinorum was, and they all had to ask what mushrooms were. one even thought that LSD was a thing of the 60's and that no one ever did it anymore.
When you go in to see a doctor, chances are they spent most of their time in books and this and that studying rather than 'expanding their minds' or taking various hallucinogens or other kinds of drugs, which probably allowed them to get to where they were as they are, but also has negative impacts considering they are seemingly drug illiterate when drug use is a top concern (and treatment in many cases!) of mental health services. many are just ill-informed. I've yet to meet anyone brilliant that could really explain what what was going on in the brain regarding various substances and why things happened as they were... I've had to teach myself about the brain and everything else from the internet and books.
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Sophistic Radiance said: I agree the doc was a dickhead but I don't think it's just a Muslim thing to be a fru-fru new-age dick who eschews evidence-based medicine in favor of being a sanctimonious prick. I hear white people saying this kind of shit all the time.
I should know, medicinal doses of stimulants might as well be a different drug from recreational doses, but there's no shortage of dicks who will call me a tweaker or a freak for taking medicines that enable me to be happy and healthy, and I don't notice a special preponderance of Muslims in this population.
Because he was Muslim he had too be brown right
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Re: Dickhead Muslim Psychiatrist [Re: starfire_xes]
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starfire_xes said: I had a mormon psyche tell me once that Wellbutrin was just as effective as amp for ADD; that the effects were the same.
Clueless.
so you hate mormons and muslims, do you also hate methodists? I suspect you're bigoted against religions starting with the letter M
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Re: Dickhead Muslim Psychiatrist [Re: Bubbles85]
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Sophistic Radiance said: I agree the doc was a dickhead but I don't think it's just a Muslim thing to be a fru-fru new-age dick who eschews evidence-based medicine in favor of being a sanctimonious prick. I hear white people saying this kind of shit all the time.
I should know, medicinal doses of stimulants might as well be a different drug from recreational doses, but there's no shortage of dicks who will call me a tweaker or a freak for taking medicines that enable me to be happy and healthy, and I don't notice a special preponderance of Muslims in this population.
Because he was Muslim he had to be brown right 
I didn't say that
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Boohoo, the mean muslim doc is skeptical of my admittedly nonexistent condition and won't feed me pills.
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Re: Dickhead Muslim Psychiatrist [Re: California]
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i can agree with everything he said up until the "non-existent" part. That kind of stuff you normally only hear from nameste vibes anti-vax hippies. It exists, and lots of people are misinformed about it on both sides. Furthermore, OP could have been on 50mg of adderall, tolerance does build to these drugs over time... when i cold turkey my stimulant meds (wish i hadn't now) i was up to 54mg of concerta (methylphenidate). it's quite a lot for me to take now. my tolerance these days is low, and anything over 10mg of adderal is outside of the therapeutic range, of which i don't like to venture due to the crash.
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Sophistic Radiance said: I agree the doc was a dickhead but I don't think it's just a Muslim thing to be a fru-fru new-age dick who eschews evidence-based medicine in favor of being a sanctimonious prick. I hear white people saying this kind of shit all the time.
I should know, medicinal doses of stimulants might as well be a different drug from recreational doses, but there's no shortage of dicks who will call me a tweaker or a freak for taking medicines that enable me to be happy and healthy, and I don't notice a special preponderance of Muslims in this population.
Because he was Muslim he had to be brown right 
I didn't say that
You didnt have to, your brief follow up about white people confirmed it.
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Re: Dickhead Muslim Psychiatrist [Re: Bubbles85]
#23555738 - 08/19/16 01:39 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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White people are Christians.
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I should know, medicinal doses of stimulants might as well be a different drug from recreational doses, but there's no shortage of dicks who will call me a tweaker or a freak for taking medicines that enable me to be happy and healthy, and I don't notice a special preponderance of Muslims in this population.
Because he was Muslim he had to be brown right 
I didn't say that
Ya ya did. What do you think we are twelve year olds that can be smoke screened with sophistry?
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Re: Dickhead Muslim Psychiatrist [Re: 404]
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404 said: i can agree with everything he said up until the "non-existent" part. That kind of stuff you normally only hear from nameste vibes anti-vax hippies. It exists, and lots of people are misinformed about it on both sides. Furthermore, OP could have been on 50mg of adderall, tolerance does build to these drugs over time... when i cold turkey my stimulant meds (wish i hadn't now) i was up to 54mg of concerta (methylphenidate). it's quite a lot for me to take now. my tolerance these days is low, and anything over 10mg of adderal is outside of the therapeutic range, of which i don't like to venture due to the crash.
uhhh or i could have been talking about the part at the end of the op where he says "ps i dont need it anyway". You know, admitting that his condition is fabricated and the premise for his visit was drug seeking behavior.
Oh yeah and adhd isn't real.
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I'm guessing he had a super brown sounding name like "Habib" or "Singh"
If the dude's name had been Tsarnaev, he would have referred to him as a Russkie or something, I'm sure
Also I think it's pretty cute thinks he can finger Muslims for disrespecting women when every other post he makes is about his fetish for one or another ethnicity of women
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uhhh or i could have been talking about the part at the end of the op where he says "ps i dont need it anyway". You know, admitting that his condition is fabricated and the premise for his visit was drug seeking behavior.
Oh yeah and adhd isn't real.
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Re: Dickhead Muslim Psychiatrist [Re: starfire_xes]
#23556470 - 08/19/16 10:48 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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you don't even have to give me your two cents to know that you and your muslim psychiatrist are full of shit spewing out of an asshole at a truck stop over the border...
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Re: Dickhead Muslim Psychiatrist [Re: starfire_xes]
#23556556 - 08/19/16 11:29 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't think it's been asked yet: How, specifically, do you know the doctor that you saw is a Muslim?
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Re: Dickhead Muslim Psychiatrist [Re: abltsandwich]
#23556571 - 08/19/16 11:35 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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He had a bomb vest on and was praying towards Mecca duh
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what did him being muslim have to do with anything? Also how do you know he was muslim, did you have a conversation about it when you entered the door? I mean I'm sure he was but just cus someone's called muhammad or whatever don't make em a practicing muslim anymore than having the name Joseph makes you a practicing christian, so i'm curious
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starfire_xes said: My psyche moved to Arizona, and she left a substitute doc, a muslim dude. When I was waiting, I noticed this chick came out of his office crying, i was like WTF.
So I went in he looked at my record--didn't shake my hand, introduce himself, anything. Then he said, 'Well, let me tell you. I don't understand ADHD. I don't treat it. You know, Doctor W, I saw 4 of her patients today, they are all on really high doses of adderall. I said '50mg?' He said, 'that's a really high dose. I never prescribe more than 15mg if i have to.
At this point I started laughing. he asked me what. i said, you know, i been using and abusing amphetamine since 1970. Injecting 500mg of meth is a starter dose.... 
He was like, What? He said. you know, you on 40, 50mg of adderall, you are activating your dopamine receptors, you are going to end upwith parkinsons disease or alzheimers, or with severe brain disease if you keep using adderall.
I said 'really>'
he said, 'I'm on the board of neauropsychiatry at UCSD. Amphetamines are really bad for the brain. I told him I just read 2 studies that said moderate dose adderall is actuall neuroprotective. he got indignant.
he said, i don't treat ADHD. I dont believe it. I don't treat symptoms. I treat disease. i called up the office and told them not to send any more of Dr. W's patients who are on adderall.
I said, should I see you again? He said, I dont think I can help you.
I stood up, told him, you know, I don't need to get it by scrip. You know how easy it is to get on the streets? he gave me a dirty look and i walked out saying, 'you don't know what the fuck you are talking about'
This guy has got to be the most condenscending, arrogant fucking prick I have ever encountered in the medical industry. In fact, he probably should be reported.
Oh well. Time to crank up the lab. I got my glassware in 2 weeks.
This is a prime example of cultural bias against drugs. PS...i dont really need it anyway. But it sure helps with work.
Sorry, but he is correct. High doses of stimulants are indeed linked to Parkinsons disease.
I would be more suspecting of a doctor that constantly wrote high doses of adderall to pretty much any patient.
How did you know he was Muslim? Was he wearing a taqiyah or something?
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#23556766 - 08/19/16 12:44 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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starfire_xes said: Whats bad is that low dose amps dont cause alzheimers, parkinsons or brain damage. Sorry, it just isn't true.
Who says that? I'll tell you who. The same medical fields that allow you to be prescribed amphetamines.
Of course they can never admit that it causes Parkinsons or long-term brain damage. If they did, it would open them up for a shitload of lawsuits.
Amphetamines are in fact, the worst for your brain out of all other drugs to take.
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Re: Dickhead Muslim Psychiatrist [Re: Crystal G]
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Re: Dickhead Muslim Psychiatrist [Re: Crystal G]
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Used to think starfire was a pretty cool dude, but his intolerance of muslims has made him out to be a major asshole.
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You never noticed his intolerance of anyone who isn't a white male?
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Re: Dickhead Muslim Psychiatrist [Re: koods]
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How does he even know this doctor is a Muslim? He could just be a regular, reformed Arab who doesn't subscribe to a barbaric religion that preaches hate, murder, rape, and pedophilia.
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He probably had an Arabic name.
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Re: Dickhead Muslim Psychiatrist [Re: koods]
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OP would blame muslims if he was late to work.
I bet your doctor wasn't even muslim, you just added that description in there to fit your recent campaign of hating on muslims.
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PeyoteZen said: One flew over the Koods Koods head.
Isn't that what trump wants? To ban people with Arabic names? How is trump gonna tell a "reformed Arab" from one who "subscribes to a barbaric religion that preaches hate, murder, rape, and pedophilia?"
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Re: Dickhead Muslim Psychiatrist [Re: koods]
#23556955 - 08/19/16 01:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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So clearly the alternative option is to do as Hillary wants (really what her handler George Soros wants, but I digress) and import thousands upon thousands of mostly fighting age men from ISIS stronghold nations? I'm sure that'll go over just fine. All in the name of progression and tolerance, eh?
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DustBunny said: My post was rhetorical, but I was genuinely asking for the study on amphetamines being neuroprotective.
I want to see these articles too. Please post them if they exist, otherwise revoke the claim.
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Doesn't sound like a dick to me. That's not how you talk to doctors.
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PeyoteZen said: So clearly the alternative option is to do as Hillary wants (really what her handler George Soros wants, but I digress) and import thousands upon thousands of mostly fighting age men from ISIS stronghold nations? I'm sure that'll go over just fine. All in the name of progression and tolerance, eh?
I've previously established that Muslims are less likely to commit rape. I have no doubt this applies to other violent crimes. We should import as many as possible to dilute the violent native citizen population.
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This guy agrees with you. In fact, he's orchestrating it personally.
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Maybe because he has been in the same situation as Syrian refugees. He was a Jewish refugee during World War II when bigots like yourself were spreading doom and gloom scenarios about what would happen if Jews were allowed to come to the US.
Your brand of ignorance is nothing new
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Oh you mean around the same time he was busy selling out his own people to save his own hide? That brand of traitorous cowardice is nothing new.
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Re: Dickhead Muslim Psychiatrist [Re: starfire_xes]
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The Quran always did have a deep-seated bias against amphetamines. Seems the only recourse you have is to access these substances illegally and never have to deal with the guy again, regardless of his Islamic proclivities.
Telling doctors that you'll buy drugs off the street if they don't prescribe them is funny, but it isn't particularly pragmatic.
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Most modern psychiatrists are quacks. Most DSM V entries are bullshit. The medical model of treating the mind with a pill is as ridiculous and aspecific as lobotomies and electroshocks.
But I must say I'm loving the irony. Its like he read your posts in the Pub on Muslims and thought "I'm gonna get that bitch".
Get another doctor or a good dealer, its amphetamine you want anyway.
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But I must say I'm loving the irony. Its like he read your posts in the Pub on Muslims and thought "I'm gonna get that bitch".
Get another doctor or a good dealer, its amphetamine you want anyway.
I say this about pills abd get told how we have a system for dealing with all of that so its safe stupid people
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I want to see these articles too. Please post them if they exist, otherwise revoke the claim.
He's not going to post them. He didn't address my posts whatsoever-
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DustBunny said: A doctor being hesitant to prescribe strong psychiatric medicine is a (very) good thing, America has an overwhelmingly large over-prescription problem.
His faith probably has nothing to do with your experience went whatsoever. If you're familiar with what in the religion would apply here, please enlighten us. A cultural bias against drugs? Adderall is plain illegal in Australia and some other countries, and many countries have a max prescribed dose of 20-30mg amphetamine total daily. Prescription amps are extremely rare in the U.K. and several countries in the E.U.
"Causing Parkinson's" isn't black and white. Amphetamines exhaust dopamine, Parkinson's is related to dopamine function. I'd love to see the study on amphetamine being a neuroprotectant. Nothing comes up on Google Scholar. Methamphetamine at extremely low doses has shown to possibly act as a neuroprotectant in some ways after traumatic brain injury [cite]. That in no way means it should be a neuroprotectant taken normally or especially regularly.
His believing this doctor is Muslim was apparently because of a "cultural bias against drugs", despite his desired Adderall dosage being higher than the limit in the vast majority of the world America may well be the only country such doses are legal. It was surely because of the color of his skin. Funny the doc is Indian and Hindi.
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there's nothing wrong with taking medicine, mushrooms are medicine.
no one wants to see anyone abuse drugs -- but taking medicine prescribed for something that you feel you need is not a bad thing, not necessarily, just because it's not shrooms or weed or something "natural". if Amphetamines helps an adult concentrate and that person wants help to concentrate then wtf.
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i know this is off topic, but -medicine under the right circumstances* it grinds my gears when i hear old hippies talking about psychedelics and other drugs as "medicine" it's pretty much as if they don't give proper respect to the power of the entheogens themselves.
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Your statistics proved nothing. It did not state what percentage of rapists had any particular religious affiliation. All you proved was that people in California and New York were less likely to commit rape than in southern states. But note that certain minority groups only live in concentrated small regions of these states, and therefore are not representative of these states.
A better way to compare the two would have been to look at rapes committed in Little Arabia or Little Syria, and then compare them to the rest of the population. But even that is not indicative of anything, since reporting rapes are very discouraged by imams in some of these communities.
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sweden or switzerland are veritable rape countries now, and by that i mean that whereas before you had a low number of rapings per year there is now a big problem that's arisen which has coincided with the migrants coming into the country, and it's not just localized to those countries, germany had a problem too. If you look at pakistan, another middle eastern country, they have serious problems with rapings of young boys, they have busses that go around and pick boys up who sometimes end up in the sex industry, it's pretty awful and rampant. There's a documentary somewhere about it on youtube.
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Really, the Q'uran mentioned amphetamines thousands of years before they were invented? That is quite remarkable. 
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that the quran has a big problem with any type of inebriation, so yeah amphetamines would probably be lumped in there along with alcohol and opiates etc etc iirc
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sweden or switzerland are veritable rape countries now, and by that i mean that whereas before you had a low number of rapings per year there is now a big problem that's arisen which has coincided with the migrants coming into the country, and it's not just localized to those countries, germany had a problem too. If you look at pakistan, another middle eastern country, they have serious problems with rapings of young boys, they have busses that go around and pick boys up who sometimes end up in the sex industry, it's pretty awful and rampant. There's a documentary somewhere about it on youtube.
Are you even reading the posts, koods claimed that he proved that Muslims are LESS likely to commit rapes, which is a disagreeable conclusion considering what his methodology was.
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That's not just in the Q'uran, doctors in the medical field are not SUPPOSED to prescribe medications just to make a person intoxicated. Just because some doctors don't follow the rules and prescribe whatever like candy just to keep their patients coming back, doesn't mean they are supposed to.
Besides, if it was for a real legitimate medical reason, then it would be allowed under Islamic belief and law.
There is a huge problem with opium in plenty of Muslim countries, so clearly not everybody follows this rule.
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Koods is a Muslim apologist of the highest order. Pretty strange considering this thread.
Also, BD's post was obviously sarcastic.
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CG utterly demolished by a tiny bit of obvious sarcasm. Good job, England.
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Hah. He is technically right in that thread though. Muhammad was a violent war criminal and a sexual pervert. The guy was obviously very sick and psychologically disturbed. Nobody should be idolizing him or worshipping him.
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sweden or switzerland are veritable rape countries now, and by that i mean that whereas before you had a low number of rapings per year there is now a big problem that's arisen which has coincided with the migrants coming into the country, and it's not just localized to those countries, germany had a problem too. If you look at pakistan, another middle eastern country, they have serious problems with rapings of young boys, they have busses that go around and pick boys up who sometimes end up in the sex industry, it's pretty awful and rampant. There's a documentary somewhere about it on youtube.
Are you even reading the posts, koods claimed that he proved that Muslims are LESS likely to commit rapes, which is a disagreeable conclusion considering what his methodology was.
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i was simply making an analogy. i understand what you mean though. i do not do that. when i refer to entheogens i refer to them as simply plants and/or fungi...or simply chemicals.
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Your statistics proved nothing. It did not state what percentage of rapists had any particular religious affiliation. All you proved was that people in California and New York were less likely to commit rape than in southern states. But note that certain minority groups only live in concentrated small regions of these states, and therefore are not representative of these states.
A better way to compare the two would have been to look at rapes committed in Little Arabia or Little Syria, and then compare them to the rest of the population. But even that is not indicative of anything, since reporting rapes are very discouraged by imams in some of these communities.
Go back and look at what I posted. For example, Dearborn has one of the lowest rape rates in Michigan.
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Your statistics proved nothing. It did not state what percentage of rapists had any particular religious affiliation. All you proved was that people in California and New York were less likely to commit rape than in southern states. But note that certain minority groups only live in concentrated small regions of these states, and therefore are not representative of these states.
A better way to compare the two would have been to look at rapes committed in Little Arabia or Little Syria, and then compare them to the rest of the population. But even that is not indicative of anything, since reporting rapes are very discouraged by imams in some of these communities.
Go back and look at what I posted. For example, Dearborn has one of the lowest rape rates in Michigan.
Please read my last sentence.
A better way would have been to look at the population of offenders in Dearborn, and see what percentage is Christian, Muslim, Jewish, or other religious affiliation.
Approximately 40% of the population in Dearborn is Muslim, so if the offender percentage of Muslims is higher than 40%, that would be a better indication of the statement you're trying to convey.
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But I must say I'm loving the irony. Its like he read your posts in the Pub on Muslims and thought "I'm gonna get that bitch".
Get another doctor or a good dealer, its amphetamine you want anyway.
Stop posting. You are contradicting your own view points. I will bring up the use of psychedelic assisted therapy looking at mdma for ptsd among others, and i distinctly remember seeing you post on other social media sites about how low doses of psilocybin can be used to treat migraines.
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But I must say I'm loving the irony. Its like he read your posts in the Pub on Muslims and thought "I'm gonna get that bitch".
Get another doctor or a good dealer, its amphetamine you want anyway.
Stop posting. You are contradicting your own view points. I will bring up the use of psychedelic assisted therapy looking at mdma for ptsd among others, and i distinctly remember seeing you post on other social media sites about how low doses of psilocybin can be used to treat migraines.
Some medicines work. Most however are a carpet bombing to take out a single target. Aspecific.
Most mental problems of most people are psychological. They need life modification, not a pill once a day for the rest of your life.
Normal psychiatrists wouldnt do MDMA therapy for PTSD. Therapists do, people who specialize in life modification.
Many psychiatrists are horrid quacks.
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I mean I hear what you're saying but it's all just fucking ridiculous to me. I used to think "man, those scientologists are fucking crazy." Now I ask myself what makes them more crazy than any of the others? Just because it's a newer religion and with far fewer people, they get singled out.
They're all fucked. I suppose the super Jihad-y types are way fucking out there, but the regular muslims are equally as crazy as the regular Christians, Jews, etc. Or the speaking-in-tongues-Christians are equally as fucked as the Jihad-y's. Delusional.
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regular muslims are not the same as regular christians, just look at the societies they create. Its impossible to show liberals their false relativism.
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Scientology was created by a science fiction novelist. That should really be a red flag.
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I hope 1000 years from now we as a society will look back at religion the same way we currently look back at Greek Mythology - that it's all fucking hogwash.
how is it hogwash? Mythology is older then fuck. it's a way of preserving culture and information. of all the things humans are useful for through the ages, the most useful is preserving information, for posterity of nations and humankind. don't be silly.
hopefully rationalist schools within religions take hold, like they all have at one point or another in the past, and simply have had to contend with a slightly stunted population of normies, simply put.
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I hope 1000 years from now we as a society will look back at religion the same way we currently look back at Greek Mythology - that it's all fucking hogwash.
Uhh that's a pretty stupid comparison seeing as antiquity mythology is still astoundingly relevant to numerous contemporary arts and has had a lasting influence easily seen just about anywhere. So I guess you really want religion to be remembered fondly; that's a very thoughtful sentiment.
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Yes for sure.
And Jesus was in Missouri (or was it Kansas) a few hundred years ago according to Joseph Smith. Or was it Brigham Young? God created the entire universe. Oh wait, that's not supposed to be taken literally (after science obliterated that argument and many others). The ambassadors of a certain religion fucked little boys in the b-hole, and then tried to cover it up.
Who the fuck knows which white dude/dudes came up with Christianity. And by came up, I mean stole a little bit of shit from many other religions that was around centuries before...and I'm pretty sure that applies to the man made creation of all religions.
They are all fucking ridiculous in their own fucking way. It took me awhile to realize that. Grew up catholic and was an atheist at a very early age, probably around 9-10 yrs old, but was too embarrassed/ashamed to admit it at the time.
I wish it was a law that no person under the age of 18 can be introduced to religion. If that were to ever happen, religion would be wiped out in fucking no time. Imagine hearing about shit in the bible, Koran (SP?) for the first time ever on your 18th b-day. You'd be like WHAT. THE. FUCK.
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Ok, it was a stupid/poor comparison.
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But I must say I'm loving the irony. Its like he read your posts in the Pub on Muslims and thought "I'm gonna get that bitch".
Get another doctor or a good dealer, its amphetamine you want anyway.
Stop posting. You are contradicting your own view points. I will bring up the use of psychedelic assisted therapy looking at mdma for ptsd among others, and i distinctly remember seeing you post on other social media sites about how low doses of psilocybin can be used to treat migraines.
Some medicines work. Most however are a carpet bombing to take out a single target. Aspecific.
Most mental problems of most people are psychological. They need life modification, not a pill once a day for the rest of your life.
Normal psychiatrists wouldnt do MDMA therapy for PTSD. Therapists do, people who specialize in life modification.
Many psychiatrists are horrid quacks.
You are not a psychologist or a medical doctor, you do not have a degree in working with the brain or any disorder, you have little to no educational background to make an assertion against what is largely agreed upon in the field, and I believe you are largely misinformed.
I can attest to the last statement however, as many whom i've seen have been kind of bad doctors...
However, if you look at many of the treatments like long term use of amphetamines or long term use of benzos, it's well acknowledged today BY doctors that these are NOT proven to be effective passed a certain time frame, more so the latter treatment.
I know one user on here who has schizophrenia and would be a wreck without abilify, he says it's the only thing that helps keep him stay normal... i think what you've posted is potentially dangerous, as someone with an illness who is doing well on their med regimen may see it and think 'o hey an admin said i don't need this medicine everyday, maybe i really don't?' I know when i quit taking my meds, a lot of bad stuff came about and i flunked out of college as a result of quitting my medications - granted, some good came of it but not enough to really justify my course of action.
Some ailments are life long and difficult to manage without certain medications, so in some cases, there is no 'one pill cure' or whatever, as is the case with neurovascular disorders or schizophrenia. In the future however, our work with CRISPR may change the playing field with these genetic disorders, allowing for the removal of inherited predispositions from our DNA, changing the way we look at things like autism and schizophrenia.
as far as ADD and ADHD go, amphetamines and other stimulants really help, increasing levels of dopamine and norepinephrine which are notably less in abundance in people who are afflicted with it, increasing the connectivity within the frontal lobe and other areas of the brain involved with attention, working memory, mood and behavior. they work, that's why they prescribe them. Maybe there is some kind Big Pharma conspiracy, but until someone comes forward with substantial data that counters the troves of published research we have on the working of the brain/mind, i'm inclined to write off these sorts of assertions as unfounded hippy conspiracy theories.
furthermore, not even the positive effects from Ketamine or psilocybin last forever, the efficacy of ketamine on depression was good for a week or two last i read what they found on it.
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Your statistics proved nothing. It did not state what percentage of rapists had any particular religious affiliation. All you proved was that people in California and New York were less likely to commit rape than in southern states. But note that certain minority groups only live in concentrated small regions of these states, and therefore are not representative of these states.
A better way to compare the two would have been to look at rapes committed in Little Arabia or Little Syria, and then compare them to the rest of the population. But even that is not indicative of anything, since reporting rapes are very discouraged by imams in some of these communities.
Go back and look at what I posted. For example, Dearborn has one of the lowest rape rates in Michigan.
Please read my last sentence.
A better way would have been to look at the population of offenders in Dearborn, and see what percentage is Christian, Muslim, Jewish, or other religious affiliation.
Approximately 40% of the population in Dearborn is Muslim, so if the offender percentage of Muslims is higher than 40%, that would be a better indication of the statement you're trying to convey.
The religious affiliation of offenders is not a statistic kept by the fbi
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scientology, created by L ron hubbard, came about from a bet between him and some other dude to see who could get the most followers for a cult IIRC. it's not a real religion, it's a scam, and a dangerous one at that. (not that other more established religions haven't been the center of countless murders and what not)
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Yeah I'm a vocal atheist. I'm not one that goes around picking fights or looking for constant debated with people online or in real life. In fact I avoid altercations at all costs if I'm being honest.
But for whatever reason, religion gets my blood boiling. I can't help it sometimes. It's really the only thing that I will openly "preach" but typically only do it when it is triggered or started by someone else.
Went off the deep end here. My bad folks.
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Religion sucks but Christ is the king of kings. The lamb of God. The way, the truth and the life. I don't expect you to be able wrap your head around that one right away, but maybe someday it will become clear to you. God Bless.
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I'd like you to address your flip-flop on Muslims koods.
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And so great is a man goin' to be praised Selassie I every time I say Jah shall execute judgment and justice And none shall escape, what me say Selassie I leave em terrified, what me say
Boy you better put on the wings of de morning and fly There is no escape from King Selassie I Flying on the income must fall to the sea There is no escape from his Majesty
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I don't think it's a flip flop, I agree with him. Islam sucks. Islam however is an ideology. Muslims are people. There's a difference
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The religious affiliation of offenders is not a statistic kept by the fbi
Yes, I'm aware. So unfortunately we can't get accurate statistics.
But my point is that you cannot use one city to accurately represent any demographic.
There are a couple cities that are densely populated with Asians in the area I used to live in California.
In Irvine, which is approximately 40-50% Asian with most of them being affluent and well-educated, there is almost no crime. In fact, Irvine was listed as one of the "top 10 safest cities in the USA" several times in the past.
In Buena Park/Garden Grove/Westminister type of area, another district with also very high Asian population (little Saigon and little Seoul is located here), crime rates are much higher. I recall Sublime made a song called "Garbage Grove," which was supposed to be about what a shit city Garden Grove was.
You cannot say that Asians commit crimes, or don't commit crimes, simply by using either of these cities as examples. Do you see what I mean?
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I thought the title was deadhead muslim psychiatrist.
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Of course you did, hippy.
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This whole thing stinks to high heaven.
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This being the "pub" and all, aren't we supposed to avoid politics and religion?
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Koods, have you always lived in the DC area? Were you born and raised there? Do you have memories as a child of being anally probed or having your eye lids clamped open and forced to watch moving images on a screen? I'm just trying to put my finger on how you turned out the way you did.
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I find anyone who talks to there imaginary friend and takes that into consideration when medicine is involved should have their license taken and never have access to modern medicine. The imaginary friends in the ski can save them.
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Thats a stupid position If you are Muslim, you believe the tenants of Islam to some extent, which are almost all terible. a distinction that doesnt exist.
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you don't know shit about religion, in general. all of the abrahamic religions have different set beliefs on what is taken on faith within scripture, or how said scripture is interpreted.
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I can see how the majority of the adhirent act and believe from pew polls and actions, which is more important then scripture
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I think economic conditions have a lot to do with differences between the beliefs of the average christian and muslim, though it does seem to be true that there are more literalist muslims than christians, or at least they are more violent. That kind of extremism doesn't pop up just anywhere though. I do think Islam is a problem, I just believe that muslims will over time adapt and become more moderate abroad under different conditions. In any case, hating on muslim people won't help matters, it only helps to radicalize hot-headed european and american youths from otherwise potentially moderate muslim families.
That said, I expect the average muslim is probably more archaic and reactionary in their thinking than the average christian, and some of that is due to core differences in their religious upbringing and scriptures, but you cannot imo pretend that is the ONLY reason for these differences
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Ezuma said: I think economic conditions have a lot to do with differences between the beliefs of the average christian and muslim, though it does seem to be true that there are more literalist muslims than christians, or at least they are more violent. That kind of extremism doesn't pop up just anywhere though. I do think Islam is a problem, I just believe that muslims will over time adapt and become more moderate abroad under different conditions. In any case, hating on muslim people won't help matters, it only helps to radicalize hot-headed european and american youths from otherwise potentially moderate muslim families.
That said, I expect the average muslim is probably more archaic and reactionary in their thinking than the average christian, and some of that is due to core differences in their religious upbringing and scriptures, but you cannot imo pretend that is the ONLY reason for these differences
There are poor christians too.
Muhammed was the perfect Muslim. If you go against the mainstream Muslim beliefes, you are not part of their community
religion isnt some abstract thing. Christianity changed for historical reasons, such as the rise of scientific thought and the Proistant Reformation, the US and all it stands for.
Isis also released a staement confirming why they are waging their holy war, and its because these people believe in what they say.
also, the more educated you are as a Muslim the more likely you are to be a terrorist or sympathize with them. Bin Ladin was very educated, for example, along with the hijackers on 9/11
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I do think this will eventually happen too. The only reason Christianity is a more peaceful religion now, is because it underwent a revolution. Before that, Christians were killing people left and right, and doing all the same shit.
So, Islam also has to go through the same secular revolution, and I think it is just on the cusp of happening in the future. There are some Muslim scholars who are pro-gay and pro-women... they are not very popular at the moment and are largely criticized by the majority Muslim community, but it's only a matter of time.
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Muslims dont want to go through a revolution
christianity was just the religin of the people who started wstern scientific thought
the Protistant Reformation was the Largest change, and that was really just the bible not being available to laymen
dopeople all want basically the same things? Islam is the fastest growing religion right now.
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Sharia isnt written in a dead language noone speaks. Kill means kill. so, now I cant speak of what I see because Im nor Muslim? Its like the idiotic rhetoric that men cant have opinions on abortion
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I'm just saying, man, how would you know? Your treatment of the subject, itself, is lame enough to give away the fact that you don't know the first thing about it
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What does that even mean? My treatment of the subject. There are a bunch of countries ruled by Sharia right now, and they are all terrible. The best is Indonesia, because the Muslems culterally decemated the Hindus there
Think of it this way, noone has any problems with Hindus. England has a huge Indian population. Noone gives a fuck.
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Surprisingly many of them do--especially women, Muslims that have lived for a long time in places like the USA, and a lot of Muslims who just generally disagree with the uber-strict school of thought. The problem is you don't see many of them openly speaking out about it, because their culture is so strict, and you could face backlash from the entire community.
The problem is, is that any time a Muslim leader comes out and dares to speak out in one of those heavily politicized countries, they face threats, assassination, among other things that is meant to deliberately silence them.
This is exactly what happened to Mahmoud Taha, he developed what is called "the second message of Islam," and he preached about a version of Islam that was about equality and freedom. He ended up being assassinated by one of those terrorist Sunni Muslim organizations, their reasoning being that he was an "apostate."
It even happened to the Prime Minister of Israel, Rabin. When Rabin called for peace in the Middle East and sought to stop Israel from fighting with Palestine, he was murdered. That's what happens to political or religious leaders who try to challenge these extremists.
I'm sure you know why a lot of Iranians fled here to America during the 1970's and 1980's. Because when the Iranian Revolution was happening and those extremists took power, they fled the country because they didn't like what was happening in their countries. All those Iranians who came all unanimously think those extremists are psycho and crazy. That's why you tend to see more Persians here in certain areas. That alone should tell you something.
You know how it's always the people who are the most crass or extreme or controversial who are the loudest? It's kind of like that. People always hear the voices of people with the most extremist opinions. Crazy people always get noticed more.
I definitely think we should be very critical about Islam though, and challenge its notions and school of thought. Because the truth is, if the religion is to ever undergo a secular transformation, we must continuously challenge specific aspects about the religion.
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Lol. No, it wasn't. Scientific thought existed long before Christianity was ever popular in the West, back when polytheistic religions such as ancient Greece were the primary religion. And of course, the Middle East also had schools of scientific thought, particularly in ancient Egypt.
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We got many of the foundational principles of mathematics, chemistry, and other disciplines from Muslim scientists and scholars.
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Also, the European Enlightenment was spurred by access to ancient Greek and Roman texts which had only been preserved by Muslim scholars. You could make the case that Islam liberated Europe from the dark ages.
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They actually got a lot of their ideas by translating ancient Egyptian and ancient Greek texts. We definitely got algebra and alchemy from ancient Egypt, but Islam was not existing back then. More refined and scientific methods of chemistry, you could say that came from the Islamic World.
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Its self selecting. The unpious get weeded out. Muhammed was the perfect Muslem, and a real person, who killed thousands and raped children. I mention this often, but it gets ignored.
Scientific thought as we know it, thank you Greeks an Italians. If you have a broad defenition, we all are amature scientists. If things arent defined then they mean nothing. People seem to like to over abstract
Its the best thing the Islamic world has done. Linier time, Islam is a problem now.
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their architects were pretty dope, just sayin' look at some of the mosques in iran and you will see very intricate patterns and colors etc
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Their contemporary architecture is off the hook, too. Them moslems got pizazz
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I've actually been following the Men in Hijab movement on Facebook. If you read the comments, lots of people are praising the movement in Arabic and Farsi: https://www.facebook.com/StealthyFreedom/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED&fref=nf
There's a Muslim movement taking place in Iran, where men are wearing hijabs to protest the idiocy of a compulsory hijab for women.
A lot of people in these countries desire a secular state, but they simply can't win against those violent extremists. It's a long, uphill battle they are going to have to fight. And many of them will be killed. I definitely think the fight needs to take place though, Islam absolutely needs to undergo a revolution.
This is what Iran looked like before those stupid extremists took over:
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If any Muslim country an push back, its Iran. They were on their way to sanity once. I think you liberals underestimate the pervasiveness of these deeply held beliefs. Muhammed was real, Jesus ws not. Muhammed was a conqueror, Jesus died by the state. This may not seem important to you, but people actually believe this stuff, and believe in their god. Not everyone wants to live in a diverse secular democracy
Extremist doesnt mean anything. They arent being extreme. The word you want is 'standard' and what we want is 'dilution'. Extremism implies that they are not the norm or doing something not prescribed. Its an idiotic term
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Extremist doesnt mean anything. They arent being extreme. The word you want is 'standard' and what we want is 'dilution'. Extremism implies that they are not the norm or doing something not prescribed. Its an idiotic term
Dude, are you serious? Blaming Islam for the insanity of Iran's government? Do you know what happened there politically that enabled the clerics to take over in spite of their obvious insanity?
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You just skip over all the important things, as usual.
We fucked up in that case, though Im not intimately familiar.
The more islamic a place is,the more we view it as extreme. You are showing a western bias when those terms are used. Islam isnt christianity.
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specialpeopleclub said: If any Muslim country an push back, its Iran. They were on their way to sanity once. I think you liberals underestimate the pervasiveness of these deeply held beliefs. Muhammed was real, Jesus ws not. Muhammed was a conqueror, Jesus died by the state. This may not seem important to you, but people actually believe this stuff, and believe in their god. Not everyone wants to live in a diverse secular democracy
Everybody is ignoring your point because nobody in this thread believes (at least not to my knowledge) that Mohammad was a good person. In fact, I said earlier in this thread that Muhammad was a sexual pervert and a war criminal, and that he was psychologically disturbed. Nobody should be idolizing him.
Also, what do you mean Jesus was not real? Muslims actually believe Jesus was real, and was a prophet. They actually believe in Jesus, because one thing Jesus says is that one last prophet will come after his death. They simply don't accept that he was the son of god.
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There is no evidance Jesus was a real person, and he isnt the one Muslims want to imitate
Muhammed was the lat and perfect prophet, and the words that come later in the Koran arethe ones with more validity. These are the verses after he was banished from mMecca, and the more troubling ones. The whole first chapter was about how terrible the Jews are and how god mnakes the non believers what they are and nothing will change them. Then there are the hadiths, which get more down to the killing.
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We fucked up in that case, though Im not intimately familiar.
The more islamic a place is,the more we view it as extreme. You are showing a western bias when those terms are used. Islam isnt christianity.
as we see, its easy for places to go backward, and many people are wanting that.
Saudi Arabia is just as Islamic. Our govrrnment doesnt view them as extreme.
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Crystal G said: I've actually been following the Men in Hijab movement on Facebook. If you read the comments, lots of people are praising the movement in Arabic and Farsi: https://www.facebook.com/StealthyFreedom/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED&fref=nf
There's a Muslim movement taking place in Iran, where men are wearing hijabs to protest the idiocy of a compulsory hijab for women.
A lot of people in these countries desire a secular state, but they simply can't win against those violent extremists. It's a long, uphill battle they are going to have to fight. And many of them will be killed. I definitely think the fight needs to take place though, Islam absolutely needs to undergo a revolution.
This is what Iran looked like before those stupid extremists took over:
r u srs
that must have been in the 50's after the US overthrew Iran's government, installing a pro-western Shah or whatever, who gave women the right to vote and some other things. The religious leaders in the country included Ruhollah Khomeini who had been one of the leading critics of the Shah at the time, who had been imprisoned for 18 months and then exiled for 14 years because of the shah's secret police and tactics that included torturing and imprisoning anyone that dissented. The religious leaders had been seeing that the shah was trying to push out islam in a country that was mostly muslim, lol.
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#23559893 - 08/20/16 12:48 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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The democratically elected Mossadegh government overthrown by the US was socialist and secular. Iran has not generally been known for extremism in the past AFAIK. The Iranian revolution was a reaction to US meddling, but it didn't restore some prior status quo. It was a brand new flaming bag of crazy which resulted from an unprecedented civil power vacuum as orchestrated by Western meddling. I'm sorry but we really fucked Iran up. They were once very progressive, but we don't like our puppet states to be progressive, we like them to be authoritarian. That is the social order we impose on them and that is how the Iranians learned to live.
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akira_akuma said: you don't know shit about religion, in general. all of the abrahamic religions have different set beliefs on what is taken on faith within scripture, or how said scripture is interpreted.
No need to condescendingly state obvious and basic facts about how religion works.
but that's my job on the shroomery. point out glaring obvious bullshit to people with their blinders on. what else would i do here? discuss things?
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Re: Dickhead Muslim Psychiatrist [Re: akira_akuma]
#23560063 - 08/20/16 02:06 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sophistic Radiance said: I'm sorry but we really fucked Iran up. They were once very progressive, but we don't like our puppet states to be progressive, we like them to be authoritarian, and that is the social order we impose on them.
Why are you saying sorry? i never suggested that we did otherwise to Iran. The Shah placed in power was not a good dude
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specialpeopleclub said: There is no evidance Jesus was a real person, and he isnt the one Muslims want to imitate
Muhammed was the lat and perfect prophet, and the words that come later in the Koran arethe ones with more validity. These are the verses after he was banished from mMecca, and the more troubling ones. The whole first chapter was about how terrible the Jews are and how god mnakes the non believers what they are and nothing will change them. Then there are the hadiths, which get more down to the killing.
so what you're getting at is that in antiquity and medieval times people were just as prone to crazy unfounded beliefs as they are today, but didn't have the wherewithal to question anything because they didn't have the truth jutting out 24/7, due to lack of media, internet, press, liberalism ect?
not surprising. but why don't you just say that?
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Re: Dickhead Muslim Psychiatrist [Re: 404] 2
#23560087 - 08/20/16 02:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sophistic Radiance said: I'm sorry but we really fucked Iran up. They were once very progressive, but we don't like our puppet states to be progressive, we like them to be authoritarian, and that is the social order we impose on them.
Why are you saying sorry? i never suggested that we did otherwise to Iran. The Shah placed in power was not a good dude
I agree, but I further meant to say that the Islamic Republic of Iran owes a lot to the US. Iran was secular before the series of upheavals that resulted in the present status quo. We made them into the fundamentalist freaks they are.
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Re: Dickhead Muslim Psychiatrist [Re: trekie] 1
#23560091 - 08/20/16 02:22 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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trekie said: You forgot melt .
um...k. not like you've been in spam melt mode for the longest time now. still having religious visions?
also, i thought we were cool, man? 
remember Grandpa? Gramps?
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Re: Dickhead Muslim Psychiatrist [Re: akira_akuma]
#23560114 - 08/20/16 02:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I was just giving you a hard time buddy. Nah my head is better. Still an emotional wreck but I'm working on that. For the record it wasn't the Christian god .
During medieval times people were almost always hammered beer and wine was much safer than water. People are getting less religious as a whole. Once all these old fucks die off we will be living in a godless paradise.
I've had several bad head shrinks the ones who were ultra religious were the worst. Have you tired praying the sadness away? Bwahaha.
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#23560118 - 08/20/16 02:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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My neighbor is from Iran, actually. An aging single woman. She doesn't wear a burqa, she dresses like a yuppie. She is a yuppie. She's still a Muslim, but she is a secular yuppie. I wouldn't be surprised if the Iranian yuppie diaspora is huge.
She's a total bitch, but not because she wants to kill the faggots or force women to wear burqas or something. She's a bitch because she always comes to my door to complain when somebody is parked too far into her side of the property line. Still, I wouldn't want to have her deported, she's alright.
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Re: Dickhead Muslim Psychiatrist [Re: trekie]
#23560129 - 08/20/16 02:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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trekie said: I was just giving you a hard time buddy. Nah my head is better. Still an emotional wreck but I'm working on that. For the record it wasn't the Christian god.
well...good to see you're doing better. sometimes the spiritual is often conflated with the religious, and not that there's anything wrong with that. a good head could use some worship of higher deeds.
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During medieval times people were almost always hammered beer and wine was much safer than water. People are getting less religious as a whole. Once all these old fucks die off we will be living in a godless paradise.
Yeats said the antithetical search for order through religion has been in it's downfall since a century ago; and that the thetical/secular reasoning is the rising factor.
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I've had several bad head shrinks the ones who were ultra religious were the worst. Have you tired praying the sadness away? Bwahaha.
LOL medicine is a secular science, and will always be. pray the fucking...ahahahaha....i have to remember that when i wake up in the morning. just pray.
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specialpeopleclub said: There is no evidance Jesus was a real person, and he isnt the one Muslims want to imitate
Muhammed was the lat and perfect prophet, and the words that come later in the Koran arethe ones with more validity. These are the verses after he was banished from mMecca, and the more troubling ones. The whole first chapter was about how terrible the Jews are and how god mnakes the non believers what they are and nothing will change them. Then there are the hadiths, which get more down to the killing.
so what you're getting at is that in antiquity and medieval times people were just as prone to crazy unfounded beliefs as they are today, but didn't have the wherewithal to question anything because they didn't have the truth jutting out 24/7, due to lack of media, internet, press, liberalism ect?
not surprising. but why don't you just say that?
you literally dont make any sense I didnt mention any of that
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Sophistic Radiance said: My neighbor is from Iran, actually. An aging single woman. She doesn't wear a burqa, she dresses like a yuppie. She is a yuppie. She's still a Muslim, but she is a secular yuppie. I wouldn't be surprised if the Iranian yuppie diaspora is huge.
She's a total bitch, but not because she wants to kill the faggots or force women to wear burqas or something. She's a bitch because she always comes to my door to complain when somebody is parked too far into her side of the property line. Still, I wouldn't want to have her deported, she's alright.
real muslims woyuld not consider her a muslim then.
Liberals want to seperate Muslim and Islam, which is retarded. Just because christianity is diluted doesnt mean nothing has meaning. Its explicit that Muhammed was the best muslem, so the farther you stray from him, the less Muslim you are
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funny thing is, that's you, about 90% of the time. the rest of the time, here i am, just, basically, planting seeds.
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Re: Dickhead Muslim Psychiatrist [Re: akira_akuma]
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#23560394 - 08/20/16 04:13 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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boy oh boy this thread fucking sucks
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Re: Dickhead Muslim Psychiatrist [Re: Great Scott]
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am i gonna watch that loud mess? no. i'm listening to music. is this you, he asks me...lol...is this you? haha. ok. i don't even know what post of mine you responded to, let me go see what is first, before i continue....
ok, no. whatever you're getting at, with some "libtard alert" no...i'm more fiscally conservative than liberal, from a personal standpoint. anyone who knows me knows that i'm laissez faire all the way. i'd rather make corn, or chairs, and books, then work for some cretins...but that's not the world we live in. unfortunately, you're just a person, who's either got their blinders up on full shade, or your dish just ain't working straight.
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Re: Dickhead Muslim Psychiatrist [Re: Asante]
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love u too asante
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Didn't you used to eat hot dogs with jelly or something fucking disgusting like that
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Re: Dickhead Muslim Psychiatrist [Re: starfire_xes]
#23560491 - 08/20/16 04:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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You're racist.
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you can't go wrong with an all beef kosher dog and some grape jelly pal
try it out for yourself
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Ugh. You grape hot dogs?
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Re: Dickhead Muslim Psychiatrist [Re: koods]
#23560533 - 08/20/16 04:55 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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look I know it SOUNDS disgusting but it actually tastes really good and you should try it
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I'm thinking about putting you on the official degenerate list for that, jesus christ.
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the only way i'm trying it is if someone makes their own grape jelly sauce, and makes it bomb, and i have to pay, trick my cognitive mind to send dopamine into my brain and thus relieve myself of any pressure of having to think to enjoy myself, because it'd be more easy to enjoy the fact that i bought an expensive hot dog with fucking grape jelly on it!
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Re: Dickhead Muslim Psychiatrist [Re: akira_akuma]
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then you plug the grapedog
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Can this become the delicious recipe thread?
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for maximum effect.
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A Pub here serves them with Swiss and Strawberry jam-

I like salami with jam, too.
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Re: Dickhead Muslim Psychiatrist [Re: DustBunny]
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that looks good as fuck holy shit
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