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Ovoids? changed to Gymnopus study
    #23553073 - 08/18/16 11:38 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Habitat: woodchips where I placed Ovoid mycelium & LC
Where does it grow? Eg. woods, pasture, state, province, country, altitude, etc. What does it grow on? Eg. soil, dung, wood (dead, living, what kind of wood?), etc.

Gills:
Color, attached/not, gills/pores, etc.

Stem:
Length, diameter, color, texture, hollow/solid, thin/thick, etc.

Cap:
Diameter, color, texture, conical/spherical, convex/concave, etc.

Spore print color:
Very important!

Bruising:
Color that the mushroom bruises, if any.

Other information:
Scent of the mushroom, anything else you think is important, large close-up pictures showing stem, cap and gills.
Hello you all I was needing a little help in an I. D. Is it possible these are Ovoids? I not what are they, and why haven't I seen them before & are they edible? They dried into a purplish cap & stem look, but more purplish than blue. Any help is much appreciated. Peace


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Re: Ovoids? [Re: majicman30]
    #23553082 - 08/18/16 11:39 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Looks like maybe Gymnopus sp.


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Re: Ovoids? [Re: leschampignons]
    #23553085 - 08/18/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Not ovoids, sorry.  It's a wee bit early to get excited for them.


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Re: Ovoids? [Re: leschampignons]
    #23553106 - 08/18/16 11:47 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for the reply. So you don't think it could be a psili cybe because I did not print them because I did not really think they were my Ovoids I was hoping for, but then I saw they were purple & kinda pretty, and even smelled like dry cubes. I don't have my camera right now so I will post a pic of them dry later with a spore print. I never made a print when I took these pics either. There is a new batch starting on the chips so I will make one. Peace & Thanks


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Re: Ovoids? [Re: majicman30]
    #23553136 - 08/18/16 11:55 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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So you don't think it could be a psili cybe because I did not print them because I did not really think they were my Ovoids I was hoping for, but then I saw they were purple & kinda pretty, and even smelled like dry cubes.




I don't think they are Psilocybe because they do not look like Psilocybe.


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Re: Ovoids? [Re: majicman30] * 1
    #23553158 - 08/18/16 12:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The mature gills appear too light to be a psilocybe sp. IMO. A clear gill shot would help confirm Gymnopus, as would a spore print.


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Re: Ovoids? [Re: leschampignons]
    #23553285 - 08/18/16 01:05 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I did not even think Gymnoplious because I thought they were all bright orange. These dry ones do have kinda meaty caps & appear to be purple on top & in the twisty stems. (They do look like Gym stems now that I do look.I have picked active ones out of this same mulch(you can see in my gallery) before that were bright orange with a bright orange spore print. What color spore print would Gymnopilous Sp. have? I'll have pics of the dry ones & spore print asap so today or tomorrow at the latest. Also I saw where bugs had ate the top of some of the dry ones, and the middle of the cap(meaty part)it was yellowish & reminded me of gyms. Peace & Love


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Re: Ovoids? [Re: majicman30]
    #23553694 - 08/18/16 03:32 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Gymnopus, not Gymnopilus. Spores will be white to creamy yellow


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Re: Ovoids? [Re: doctorghosty]
    #23553928 - 08/18/16 04:33 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Are any Gymnopus Sp. active? I couldn't find out much info. on them. Thanks for the replies you all & I will have the my camera back with spore print in the morning. If they are possibly the Gymnopus sp. Would they be edible? Peace


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Re: Ovoids? [Re: majicman30]
    #23553953 - 08/18/16 04:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

No, not active or edible


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Re: Ovoids? [Re: doctorghosty]
    #23586309 - 08/28/16 09:31 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

O.K. so this is what I think it is...
Gymnopus ocior  (Pers.) Antonín & Noordel.

Distribution - Taxonomic History - Etymology - Identification - Culinary Notes - Reference Sources


Gymnopus ocior

Taxonomy

Phylum: Basidiomycota

Class: Agaricomycetes

Order: Agaricales

Family: Marasmiaceae

Such a beautiful mushroom... It is a crying shame that Gymnopus ocior is so rare in Britain and Ireland. This is also one of the neatest of the mushroom in the 'toughshank' group, which were all, until recently, grouped together in the genus Collybia. Many others in that group grow in tightly-packed tufts or lines so that the caps jostle one another into contorted shapes, making a perfect specimen are rarity. Gymnopus ocior, in contrast, seems to show the greatest respect for its neighbours.



Distribution

Gymnopus ocior, a group on rotting hardwoodGymnopus ocior  is seen infrequently in woodland and parkland throughout Britain and Ireland. This strikingly beautiful mushroom is also found on the European mainland, where it is most common in northern countries, This species is also recorded in some parts of North America.

Until 1997, this mushroom had been recorded in most field guides as Collybia ocior, but work by . Czeck mycologist Vladimir Antonín and Dutch mycologist Machiel Noordeloos has changed things greatly. In 1993 they published the first part of a monograph of the genera Marasmius and Collybia in Europe, and then in 1997 they radically reorganized the species into five genera - Collybia, Dendrocollybia, Gymnopus, Marasmiellus and Rhodocollybia. Molecular analysis has since supported their proposals, and recently-published field guides reflect these changes.

The beautiful group shown above was photographed by Van Greaves at Pipers Hill Wood near Bromsgrove/Hanbury, in Worcestershire, England during October 2013. Other pictures on this page are shown by courtesy of David Kelly.


Gymnopus ocior, mature cap
Taxonomic history

The basionym of this species dates from 1828, when Christiaan Hendrik Persoon described is scientifically and gave it the binomial name Agaricus ocior. The currently-accepted scietific name Gymnopus ocior was established in 1997 in a Mycotaxon publication by Antonin and Noordeloos.

Synonyms of Gymnopus ocior include Agaricus xanthopus Fr., Agaricus dryophilus ß funicularis Fr., Agaricus ocior Pers., Collybia extuberans (Fr.) Quél., Collybia succinea (Fr.) Quél., Collybia exsculpta (Fr.) Gillet, Collybia luteifolia Gillet, Collybia xanthopoda (Fr.) Sacc., Marasmius funicularis (Fr.) P. Karst., Gymnopus exsculptus (Fr.) Murrill, Marasmius exsculptus (Fr.) Rea, Collybia dryophila subsp. exsculpta (Fr.) Konrad & Maubl., Collybia dryophila var. funicularis (Fr.) Halling, and Collybia ocior (Pers.) Vilgalys & O.K. Mill.



Etymology

Gymnopus, the generic name, comes from Gymn- meaning naked or bare, and -pus meaning foot (or, in the case of a mushroom, stem). The specific epithet ocior means swifter or more rapid.

Despite its great beauty and the fact that it is fairly common, Gymnopus ocior has no common name in the British Mycological Society's list of English Names of Fungi.

Identification guide

Cap of Gymnopus ocior
Cap

Convex, becoming shallowly convex or flattening with a wavy margin and sometimes developing a shallow central depression; 1.5 to 5cm across; dark reddish brown with usually a paler marginal zone; hygrophanous, drying out paler; margin not significantly striate. Cap flesh is thin and whitish.

Cap of Gymnopus fusipes
Gills

White at first, becoming cream or yellowish with age; moderately crowded; adnexed to emarginate.

Stem

Cylindrical, smooth, slightly bulbous and finely hairy at the base; colour ochre to reddish-brown but significantly paler than the cap; 2 to 7cm long and 2 to 6mm in diameter; no stem ring.

Spores of <em>Gymnopus ocior</em>
Spores

Ellipsoidal to oblong, 4.5-6 x 2.5-4μm; hyaline.

Spore print

White.

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Odour/taste

Not distinctive.


Habitat & Ecological role

Saprobic on humous-rich soil in broadleaf and mixed woodland; also occasionally on wood chip mulch in parks and gardens.


Season

June to October in Britain and Ireland.


Similar species

Gymnopus dryophilus is a much paler toughshank which appears in clusters but does not have spindle-shaped stems.


Culinary Notes

Gymnopus ocior  is recorded as 'edible but not worthwhile' in some field guides, but in any case these mushrooms are too tough to be tempting and are therefore not worth considering as a culinary collectible.

Reference Sources

Antonín, V.; Halling, R.E.; Noordeloos, M.E. 1997. Generic concepts within the groups of Marasmius and Collybia sensu lato. In: Mycotaxon 63:359–368

Fascinated by Fungi, Pat O'Reilly 2011

Dictionary of the Fungi; Paul M. Kirk, Paul F. Cannon, David W. Minter and J. A. Stalpers; CABI, 2008

Taxonomic history and synonym information on these pages is drawn from many sources but in particular from the British Mycological Society's GB Checklist of Fungi and (for basidiomycetes) on Kew's Checklist of the British & Irish Basidiomycota.

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Re: Ovoids? Gymnopus Study [Re: majicman30]
    #23586353 - 08/28/16 09:46 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Which is probably the same as Gymnopus Luxurians which could possibly be active in my openion. It could also possibly breed with other myceliums & make it's own new species more often than other mushrooms.(possibly active) I don't know they haven't been studied that much either, so I don't know I just might have to go all Alan Rockefeller on these mugs! Oh snap I might have made a new species how do we know. I'll post some picks that make me think they could be possibly active some dry ones & fresh & some in habitat. Peace & Love


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