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Alonzo
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Would would an ideal world be like?
#23552631 - 08/18/16 08:44 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Try to imagine or describe how a perfect world would look like.
I know it's a question that can have a billion different answers, but what would be a few of the core elements of such an ideal world and society?
For me, core elements would include: Democracy Universal language Free education Character € Ethics classes in high school
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Re: Would would an ideal world be like? [Re: Alonzo]
#23553476 - 08/18/16 02:27 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Would would an ideal world be like? [Re: PaulyAnna]
#23554310 - 08/18/16 06:15 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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One love! Everyone to realize we may all look differently or have different beliefs or ideas or religions or whatever indifference there may be, its really all an illusion were all the same on the inside made of the same energy and atoms
So like yeah world peace... and legal psychedelics
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Re: Would would an ideal world be like? [Re: Alonzo]
#23554318 - 08/18/16 06:18 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Alonzo said: Try to imagine or describe how a perfect world would look like.
reminds me of the joke:
masochist: "beat me"
Sadist: "no"
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Re: Would would an ideal world be like? [Re: laughingdog]
#23554384 - 08/18/16 06:38 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Read the "myth" of Atlantis. It was a peak human civilization for a good minute
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Re: Would would an ideal world be like? [Re: Alonzo]
#23555715 - 08/19/16 01:17 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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laughingdog said:
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Alonzo said: Try to imagine or describe how a perfect world would look like.
reminds me of the joke:
masochist: "beat me"
Sadist: "no"

I can't imagine a perfect world, at least not one that takes compassion into consideration as someone will always be displeased. A planet that actually functions, maybe , but given human nature it would never be perfect, so removing that:
Best answer is probably a world without humans where I get to experience life as shrubbery.
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How could there be a shrubbery without demand for one?
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Re: Would would an ideal world be like? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#23555794 - 08/19/16 02:50 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Un-Biased, Laws based on intellect truth, freedom of choice within moral and equal respect for everything
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Re: Would would an ideal world be like? [Re: Alonzo]
#23556429 - 08/19/16 10:30 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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It would look just like this.
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Re: Would would an ideal world be like? [Re: viktor]
#23556522 - 08/19/16 11:09 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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i thought about this once, here is my opinion:
regular competency tests for all things. all drugs and any kind of behavior (such as suicide) is legal but you need to pass tests in order to access them and demonstrate your understanding of their inherent risks. these tests have to be renewed every now and then to show you dont forget
anyone can vote for any government policies.. but there is a catch.. you need to pass specific tests in order to demonstrate your knowledge of the subject. you cant vote on foreign affairs policies without demonstrating you understand them.
a lot of politics and debate will be centered around the content of these tests which will form the central body of knowledge for our society..
experts in any particular field will convene on a chat forums like shroomery or reddit where they will debate and the best opinions will be up-voted by peers and will be available to the public.
cars will be banned within a 1km radius of the cities. everyone will drive go-carts which will greatly reduce fatalities.
also there will be no private property. the government owns everything and if you want to sleep somewhere you simply check in the night before. first come first served. all the houses are self cleaning and are stocked with cowls for your use the next day...
oh everyone wears cowls. because they are easy to wear and i think they're cool.
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Re: Would would an ideal world be like? [Re: quinn]
#23557064 - 08/19/16 02:20 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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go karts and cowls sounds great
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Re: Would would an ideal world be like? [Re: quinn]
#23559744 - 08/20/16 11:39 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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quinn said: i thought about this once, here is my opinion:
regular competency tests for all things. all drugs and any kind of behavior (such as suicide) is legal but you need to pass tests in order to access them and demonstrate your understanding of their inherent risks. these tests have to be renewed every now and then to show you dont forget
anyone can vote for any government policies.. but there is a catch.. you need to pass specific tests in order to demonstrate your knowledge of the subject. you cant vote on foreign affairs policies without demonstrating you understand them.
a lot of politics and debate will be centered around the content of these tests which will form the central body of knowledge for our society..
experts in any particular field will convene on a chat forums like shroomery or reddit where they will debate and the best opinions will be up-voted by peers and will be available to the public.
cars will be banned within a 1km radius of the cities. everyone will drive go-carts which will greatly reduce fatalities.
also there will be no private property. the government owns everything and if you want to sleep somewhere you simply check in the night before. first come first served. all the houses are self cleaning and are stocked with cowls for your use the next day...
oh everyone wears cowls. because they are easy to wear and i think they're cool.
Well this made me smile today.
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Re: Would would an ideal world be like? [Re: Alonzo]
#23560532 - 08/20/16 04:55 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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ideal world would be thus: -- A: model a substantial goodwill towards sustainable growth for the food industry. B: re-structure education to include specializations in which one is tested to proceduralize stats and grades, giving one licence to choice in school, based on ability, and skill-set, skipping highschool altogether; ie, getting kids out of public schools alot faster than at the current rate. C: cooperation between all parties and modifying currency to endorse use of fossil fuels, tradelines, and market shares on the use of public funds in corporate fungible taxes, in order to feed back currency into infrastructure; making this world a megacorporation; this restricts use of fossil fuels and allows nations to focus on better energy sources...space seems to be a good place to start, and research. this path comes with war and such, by the by.
or
agrarian naturalised world & laissez faire economy, where we create capital through a free market of trade goods.
take your pick. one way or the other.
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Re: Would would an ideal world be like? [Re: Alonzo]
#23574833 - 08/25/16 01:29 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Honestly it would be a world unaltered and unadulterated by humanity and free of our desire not to die by using any means necessary. Because of our will to live and our awareness of our own mortality onstead of adapting to our environmen completely and sincerely, we have altered our environment to meet out desires at the expense of other life. As much as we hate to admit it our ability to recognize our faults places the responsibility for others survival in our hands.
Simply put we do not exist in a perfect world in my opinion
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Re: Would would an ideal world be like? [Re: niteman]
#23574957 - 08/25/16 03:11 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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An ideal world would be a perfect awareness, since the "world" is actually a manifestation of mind.
Ordinary awareness is God.
So be ordinary...
And there's your ideal world.
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Re: Would would an ideal world be like? [Re: beforethedawn]
#23574978 - 08/25/16 03:39 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I agree with your statement but if a mind perceives something such as pain or suffering then it exists in some form and therefore can be recognized and attempted to be changed. So acknowledging the illusion of reality as perception of the mind and conciousness is not the same as accepting the nature of reality as inevitability or as infinitely possibility. We do not perceive or feel in a vaccuum of perfection and because of that we will constantly try and fail to perfect th world according to our own beliefs and ideas. If we perceive we can end the problem of our existence by opting out of the equation and fight for life we are truly enlightened and may transcend the physical and dismiss the spiritual or existence of a concious state following death as an improbability. Then we may truly accept that life does not need to mean anythin and that the absence of being is not as bad as the possible consequences of human existence to our descendants and our enviroment as a whole. When we do more harm than good our interests are only relevant to ourselves and are not essential but rather detrimental to other life. At that point without an ego or the will to live/self preservation we have no real reason for existing as it only benefits the few and as humans we can willingly choose to go extinct if we do choose because we are not driven soley by instinct nor logic but an amalgamation of both that allows us choice and free will as tools of neither good nor evil but simply of change in the interest of a greater good.
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Re: Would would an ideal world be like? [Re: niteman]
#23578475 - 08/26/16 03:22 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Laws based on intellectual truth would turn really bad. It's like the old argument that only people who have the greatest chance of being happy should live to better the general mental health. The argument went to the extent that people who are left handed should be aborted because they will have a slightly more difficult life than people who are right handed.
That being said, I get what you mean but laws should also (in my opinion) have ethical ground. So if we would have a world religion/philosophy that enforced a world wide general ethic code we could all agree on some laws too.
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Re: Would would an ideal world be like? [Re: quinn]
#23600290 - 09/01/16 08:29 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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quinn said: i thought about this once, here is my opinion:
regular competency tests for all things. all drugs and any kind of behavior (such as suicide) is legal but you need to pass tests in order to access them and demonstrate your understanding of their inherent risks. these tests have to be renewed every now and then to show you dont forget
anyone can vote for any government policies.. but there is a catch.. you need to pass specific tests in order to demonstrate your knowledge of the subject. you cant vote on foreign affairs policies without demonstrating you understand them.
a lot of politics and debate will be centered around the content of these tests which will form the central body of knowledge for our society..
experts in any particular field will convene on a chat forums like shroomery or reddit where they will debate and the best opinions will be up-voted by peers and will be available to the public.
cars will be banned within a 1km radius of the cities. everyone will drive go-carts which will greatly reduce fatalities.
also there will be no private property. the government owns everything and if you want to sleep somewhere you simply check in the night before. first come first served. all the houses are self cleaning and are stocked with cowls for your use the next day...
oh everyone wears cowls. because they are easy to wear and i think they're cool.
Your ideal world would still have a government? One that controls everything? Terrible idea. The government wouldn't bow to a peasants demands anyhow.
My ideal world would be nothingness. No awareness or humans. Pre big bang.
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Massive soul sucking bureaucracy poor suckers lol.
Seriously umm no fuck it.
Edited by Jaegar (09/01/16 09:38 AM)
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I agree we are mostly privileged to experience morre pain than pleasure but some in extremely agonizing sitjations may have wished to never have lived Life is positive and negative but not equal or balanced. Control is illusion only chaos is inevitable.
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the government just bends to my will..
but seriously how will u get anything done without government?
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