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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: chipsandwich]
    #23549053 - 08/17/16 05:22 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Great pics chipsandwich.:cool: I've read they are more visual than P.subaeruginosa. Just need more specimens to make up the dosage. What are your thoughts about P.makarorae?:mushroom2:

Thanks for the info about the cap of P.makarorae. Acutely papillate. Bit of a mouthful.:laugh:

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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
    #23549056 - 08/17/16 05:30 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I loved them, less edgy? than subs. I'm not sure about the visuals, I remember some crazy perception stuff going on, I think the were visuals more of a noisey? rainbow like mescaline, if you get what I mean. Tripping on subs I have visuals of very distinct and defined patterns.

I have had my most rewarding and intense trips eating a handful of makarorae and a handful of subs, would recommend.

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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: chipsandwich]
    #23552300 - 08/18/16 05:40 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for the info.:smile: That's what I like about mescaline seeing rainbows in things even days after the trip. Maybe the duration of the trip has something to do with it.

Some of the photos of P.makarorae show them as blue all over. Maybe they were late in the season pics when the temps were low.

I enjoyed mixing P.tasmaniana with P.subaeruginosa last season. When I mixed P.alutacea with P.tasmaniana it was better however. The experience is clearer, sharper the messages aren't as distorted as with P.subaeruginosa.

I agree that there is edginess on P.subaeruginosa espescially when the dosage goes up.

P.makarorae sounds interesting:mushroom2:

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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
    #23552321 - 08/18/16 05:58 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Saving an oz of P. Subs to mix with P. Cubes, Heard that blend is very energetic and visual  :tripnoob:  :awedance:

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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Fractaliopsybe]
    #23552359 - 08/18/16 06:30 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

oz fresh or dry?

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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Hashed]
    #23552370 - 08/18/16 06:36 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

All I'm going to say, is that P. subaeruginosa above all saved my life, they are the best when it comes to sheer lessons if need be.

All the species I tried have saved my life, even cannabis saved my life, if it was not for ganja I would still smoke cancer sticks.

But I eat subs the most, most lessons came from thee, and subs just slap me right in the face with the lessons, if I needed to learn something, I love those teachers.

Saved my life means literally that, or just elevated my well-being and enlightenment to the point of no return...

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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Hashed]
    #23552403 - 08/18/16 06:48 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Dry as a nuns.. :shocked:

Powder it up & mix the p.s 35% - p.c 65% in caps "00" bout 0.7gm ea = Near an average dose :wink:
Plus I wanna look into MAOi's and apparently you can mix mescaline crystals to make even more exciting. :awecid:
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Fractaliopsybe]
    #23552424 - 08/18/16 06:58 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Dry as a nuns.. :shocked:

Powder it up & mix the p.s 35% - p.c 65% in caps "00" bout 0.7gm ea = Near an average dose :wink:
Plus I wanna look into MAOi's and apparently you can mix mescaline crystals to make even more exciting. :awecid:
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Bro, if you are going to do shit like that, at least record it...

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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Hashed]
    #23552429 - 08/18/16 06:59 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Ohhhhh I thought you meant you gonna do a whole dry zip of subs, and some cubes aswell in one sitting, plus a whole bunch of other shit. :lol:

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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Hashed]
    #23552501 - 08/18/16 07:41 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I agree about the slap in the face effect from P.subaeruginosa Hashed. Meanies have it too.(Copelandia cyanescens) They were my staple throughout the 1980's. Yes profound insight about how fucked up my life was, I gained after taking them. It's a bit like shock therapy to me.

They are NOT friendly. They are distorted. I also think P.cubensis can be as well. Am I trying to be am elitist criticising the 3 main psychedelic mushrooms used in Australia?

It might sound like it. That's not my intention. This is going to sound a bit cliche to anyone that got into Carlos Castaneda but I don't find them helpers or friends as in an ally to enrich my life. Their personalities are forceful and demanding. I guess I needed that when I was younger.

Without getting specific because it will sound like I have an agenda. There are other species that aren't like that. Are they less potent? Some are and some aren't. This is what I love the most about mushroom hunting. All the different species out there waiting.

Then some bumbling idiot like myself just happens to be in the right place at the right time and I've found my treasure. Does it matter to me if they have a name? No but it's easier to talk about them if they do.

One shroomery member insists they are all the same in effect. It's just setting and dosage. Opinions vary from that to mine where they all have distinct personalities. At the end of the day I find it easier to have a light heart and accept that everyone is different. That's pretty exciting in itself.:wink:

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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
    #23555979 - 08/19/16 06:33 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Budtechnic smokers don't just get high.. they aim for a certain strain/High of Sativa or Indica / blend for what they want to feel..
Stoners just smoke weedever has thc init... lol

Yet I've seen lesser users of weed&:mushroom2: to have the set and setting effect or on mind thinking- dwelling.
effect of them in getting everything out of it.. or nothing...? e.g giggling and overly smiley on indica and food-couch-sleep for Sativa / no effect...(Same with :mushroom2:...)

I think These tests can only really be a better guide line for the moderate user, As testing chemicals on connoisseurs of multiple set& setting contexts for the use of those substances and with applicable recording of whole trip's..
But yet their is always personal brain (dope-sera) lvls that will always!!!!  Make these feel a little different.

Meaning get guru's/veteran users to detox after every test, as well as moderate users and novice do as well..
But the two main General effects of weed was highly known and discussed well before listed out as general side effects.. (high stoned vs doped stoned)

With :mushroom2: I may think there would be too many variables for this to be too strict. and detailed like weed has..
Had somethings are 50/50... you really never know how the same it is as some1 else or the last time..
P. subs- have done everything for me all good (NRG, Visuals & buzz). (+ paranoia up to DMTland) on diff dosing of course.
P.cubes- NRG and buzz
Azures- I think just make me loop and very paranoid.. but I think that's coz I was sold three caps which now feels like not even a dose...
Mexicanas, was like a short LSD trip, as it was my first time on psilocybin so hard to differentiate..

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I agree about the slap in the face effect from P.subaeruginosa Hashed. Meanies have it too.(Copelandia cyanescens) They were my staple throughout the 1980's. Yes profound insight about how fucked up my life was, I gained after taking them. It's a bit like shock therapy to me.
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One shroomery member insists they are all the same in effect. It's just setting and dosage. Opinions vary from that to mine where they all have distinct personalities. At the end of the day I find it easier to have a light heart and accept that everyone is different. That's pretty exciting in itself.:wink:




I reckon Personal option statistics, Needs to be correlated together to make a stereotypical effect on a Sp. of :mushroom2:

Otherwise they just do what they always have done... show you want you need too see...:mushroom2::cool::thumbup:

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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Fractaliopsybe]
    #23556044 - 08/19/16 07:18 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Digging the blend talk. Make a blend thread
That shit is bloody interesting!

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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Fractaliopsybe]
    #23556045 - 08/19/16 07:20 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks Fractaliopsybe:cool: Enjoy the rant about dope as well. Well except for the part about sativas because no one these days is smoking sativas. Clever marketing promotes this that and everything else as sativa. Sad fact is they are gone. Most stoners these days wouldn't want them anyway. Unless they enjoy going green and puking.

There is nothing I have tried since 1990 that is anywhere like the great Australian sativas. Thai is not what it was. Durban likewise. It was poison. The blood sativas were deadly. Instant stone then the look on faces of oh oh I've just spat it out and I'm too stoned already. Then the rush. Hang onto your chair and if you don't spin out it will be OK Haze is crap nowadays. Never had Haze back then though. Mullum is not tripping weed anymore. It was a creeper. The backbone of good Aussie weed. People would smoke it and say didn't have much taste not much of a high. Then see them at the one hour mark getting a very dry mouth. Two hours they'd be going a bit white and paranoid before putting themselves to bed. Modern offerings of all the African strains are out there and they are watered down to the point of...well whats the point talking about dope IT depresses me.

Good point about the subjectivity of it all. Yes its my opinion about P.subaeruginosa, meanies and Goldtops. I'm a bit forthright with opinions. As I've said else where friends over the years who have taken those 3 species with me don't anymore. Some blame me for it. Others say they just aren't into them and never really were.

If I press the ones that have anything to do with me now the reasons are interesting and quite similar. Those 3 species make them feel ill at ease. Not relaxed, not satisfied. A bit agitated. I tell them about the others of which there are 5 species and they aren't interested in trying them no matter how hard I try to convince them.I say they aren't at all like meanies, subs or goldtops. Especially the P.pelliculosa ones. They are like a modern day watered down sativa. Still they look at them like they were poison when I'd be eating them like chocolate in front of them saying they are weak and won't give you a bad trip. I almost got my brother to try the tropical liberty caps.

I said how much they were like dope for the first 20-30 mins. He didn't though even when he'd been out with me picking them. It's all right because there's more for me if no one wants them anyway.:smile:

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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
    #23556137 - 08/19/16 08:04 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Us mushroom fanatics are soul mates with psilocybin lol... they find us, we find them..

South-west of Taree.. There is a few people that have almost original strains from 20 years ago.. for that exact reason :wink: (Due to the disliking of hydro)
(Tried "Master-Bush" once... one hit wonder) No harshness & complete bush taste & look, yet took ages to come on..(Rare*AF)

But I also agree / think that 80-90's bush growth imported strains was the best all round in its genome DNA strengths, As they grew very potent in oz compared to the international strains. (grown in NTH-Hemisphere)

Through, Serious cross-hybridisation of strains, yes I agree. There are Next to no, true Indica nor staiva strains. (Continental pure breeds) There is just too many these days eg: http://calgarycmmc.com/cannabisstrainorigins.htm

**The same Sp. of plant.. Can contain different lvls of chems and look different just be changing hemisphere**
For example: Daytura (devil's trumpet doesn't get as potent here as it does in Columbia...

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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Fractaliopsybe]
    #23556172 - 08/19/16 08:21 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Bushman was a swazi hybrid as far as I know.
That's right about imported bud. It was grown for one thing in say Thailand, Vietnam or Africa. SO plant those seeds back in the day and if it was South African it could get just as potent as it was grown in Africa. Thai they had to compromise. However the compromise wasn't that bad at all. The Hunter river weed despite what so called "knowledgeable" people about dope say was very potent. People were smoking the leaf and getting very out of it.

Leb sativa hit Coffs back in the mid-late 1970's. The perfect partner for those long winded thai strains.

The leaf off the long winded strains like mullum madness was very good. The leaf off those mango sativas was too.

Even fibre strains of cannabis when taken from Europe to India back in the day when they did contain THC would become more potent. Climate and latitude influencing this.

Bogota at 3000m altitude the tropane alkaloids get very rich in their Brugmansias. Even Datura stramonium picked in Sydney at 34 S approx you need way less seeds than the same species picked at a higher latitude.:smile: Enjoy the talk thanks.

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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
    #23556204 - 08/19/16 08:39 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Even fibre strains of cannabis when taken from Europe to India back in the day when they did contain THC would become more potent. Climate and latitude influencing this.




:whathesaid:
But the terrain difference within that go for so many other Sp.

Hhahahah:rofl::facepalm3: The main point..

Its odd... thats all..

Like even with P. subs in Sydney Compared to other places...(was that you who confirmed that theory)(they may be generally stronger?)
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
    #23558012 - 08/19/16 07:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Some of the photos of P.makarorae show them as blue all over. Maybe they were late in the season pics when the temps were low.





They were found right at the very start of the season.

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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: chipsandwich]
    #23558308 - 08/19/16 08:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Some of the photos of P.makarorae show them as blue all over. Maybe they were late in the season pics when the temps were low.




They were found right at the very start of the season.




So it was "Warmer" average temps...? (speculations)

Finding that the perfect low temps (5-15) Make pins/Starts flushes and grow go well n quick...
But I 've found the ones growing in / around 8-18 n lower RH% & maybe a little warmer for a few hrs make them bluer!
(plus age!)

*These are all about the same Hrs old..*

Been thinking that the Synthesisation process of :mushroom2:(Content/bluing) is best when wiggled or massaged in & out of great conditions and grows slow.
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Heyowana- Are you doing and Trials of Myc growth or grow teks on these still? *As it is getting warmer*

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    #23559207 - 08/20/16 06:08 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks chipsandwich. The guy who posted the blue P.makarorae did so in 2015. They were beautiful. Sky blue caps and stems. I remember other people on the thread commented how pretty they looked. I think it was well into the season and the temps were down, now I could look it up but I'm a slack c _ _ t.:smile:

Lovely looking subs Fractaliopsybe.:smile: Yes I've noticed a big difference in potency between the subs in Sydney and here. I was thinking something in the range of 2g of Sydney subs equals 5g here dry weight. Blue mountain ones were quite weak too. I found it hard to get good visuals off the Oberon ones no matter how many I took.

I'm not growing anything at the moment. I'm one of those people that moves all the time. I love walking so much. I'd rather look for my mushrooms and let nature decide the outcome.:smile:

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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
    #23559367 - 08/20/16 08:37 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Heyowana quote:"I'm not growing anything at the moment. I'm one of those people that moves all the time. I love walking so much. I'd rather look for my mushrooms and let nature decide the outcome.:smile:"

I like that statement.


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