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OfflineIfishhigh
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Mesc help ?
    #23551344 - 08/17/16 09:09 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I want to order torch or Pedro cuttings. I'm going to follow a prep video from you tube where it's cut into rings, blended in blender, than cooked down to a glass full and than consumed. Can you guys please help me with some questions before I dive in.
1. If i order more than I'm going to need ( cuttings ) should/could I freeze the cutting or prepare it all and freeze the goup I make ?
2.doseage i see should be around 12 inches. If I want to start with only a 6 inch dose so I can ease into it would I have any feeling at all ? Or will I be wasting my time ?
3.this video on prep seems way to easy. Is this too good to be true? Am I missing something lol ? Some people mention freezing the cutting. When in the step should i do this because in the video he never freezes it.

Those are my basic concerns and questions. If you guys can hook me up with some answers I would appreciate it. Oh last thing . Can anyone recommend a trusted cutting source. If that's against the rules I'm sorry and please don't answer or tell me I'm an idiot for asking. I just threw it out there.


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Re: Mesc help ? [Re: Ifishhigh]
    #23551466 - 08/17/16 09:57 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

1) For how long are you planning to keep the extra cuttings? You would be surprised at how long they last, you don't necessarily need to do anything to them. you can store a cutting for 6 months and it will stay alive amazingly. Alternatively you can plant them and they will live indefinitely. I don't know if I'd even recommend keeping either the frozen sludge or the cutting in the freezer for longer than six months anyway.

2) It entirely depends on the strength of your cuttings. That's the difficult thing about cactus, its not like with mushrooms where the difference between a good batch and a weaker batch might be 2x. With cactus you can literally get cactus that is 8 or 9 times as potent as the last one. So there is no telling what six inches will do. I have had cuttings where six inches was a full dose before. However, that is rare in my experience and I'd say with most cactus six inches is a very mild dose. You will still feel some effect most likely but you will not trip. There are a lot of cuttings out there where 12 inches is nowhere near enough and you need 30 inches for a moderately strong trip. It just varies so much.

3) No, you're not missing anything. It's easy because you're basically just making "tea" which is a simple procedure. I have never frozen my cuttings and I don't think it's necessary. If you do a 2-3 pulls I am confident you are getting the vast majority of the alkaloids and I don't see a reason to add extra steps like freezing. Some people just like to get every last drop of mescaline. Personally I usually don't even bother doing a third pull.


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Re: Mesc help ? [Re: Peyote Road]
    #23551529 - 08/17/16 10:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for reply. I didn't realize a cutting would keep for roughly 6 months. I doubt I would need it longer than that because I just planned on buying 2. One to do right away and the other if I like the experience, I'll do before 6 months. I have grown shrooms and never tripped yet. I read how strong they can be so I was doing little doses and never felt anything. I took my stash with me on vacation and it was so hot and humid where I was the shrooms got sort of moist so I ended up tossing them at that point. So now I wanna try the cactus thing for 2 reasons. I don't want to go through the whole ordeal of growing shrooms again. And from what I read the mesc trip is easier to handle. I want to trip but not totally lose it. I did salvia once and it was totally fucking nuts. I went from zero to 60 and back to zero all within 10 minutes. How can anyone enjoy that lol. So you think 6 inches is too low of a dose it sounds like. I have to step up to 12 I will I guess


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Re: Mesc help ? [Re: Ifishhigh]
    #23551546 - 08/17/16 10:23 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Enjoy the ride man,
Sorry I have no experience or knowledge of mescaline, my friend has taken lots of Pedro and currently started growing Peyote's, will try in 2 months from now and really looking forward to it


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Re: Mesc help ? [Re: Ifishhigh]
    #23551563 - 08/17/16 10:26 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Thats a shame you tossed those shrooms, I have some shrooms that got moist also but I kept them and I am pretty sure they're still good cuz I microdosed yesterday and felt effects.

Shrooms and mesc are nothing like salvia. You don't lose contact with reality with them unless you take a very strong dose, instead they enhance/transform your experience of reality. The point of salvia is to take you within, but most people take too much their first time or just aren't ready to integrate an experience like salvia provides.

It's true that cactus is gentler and easier to handle than shrooms in certain ways, the experience is very grounded and your mind will be very clear on lower doses.

However, the trip does last almost twice as long as a mushroom trip which is why I personally find mushrooms easier to handle. It's not as much the peak intensity as the length of trips that tends to give me trouble.


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Re: Mesc help ? [Re: Peyote Road]
    #23551595 - 08/17/16 10:34 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Peyote Road said:
Thats a shame you tossed those shrooms, I have some shrooms that got moist also but I kept them and I am pretty sure they're still good cuz I microdosed yesterday and felt effects.





Yeah as long as they are not moldy, and were fully dried to begin with!

As far as the cuttings go, I have no experience.  I'm pretty sure though I would take more than 6 inches at once, based on what peyote road is saying, if you can handle your trips well.  By the time you feel the effects from the first 6 inches, you will probably be building a tolerance already.  So redosing with cacti, would not be as strong as taking it all at once.  Even though I have no experience with it.


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Re: Mesc help ? [Re: bigbitch]
    #23552246 - 08/18/16 04:28 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I hope someone sees this and replies. One thing unclear in the video is how much water do I add to the blender ? I'm thinking add the cactus first and than pour in water until the cactus pieces are covered. And lastly I plan onreducing it as much as possible. Unless there's a certain guideline for that too.


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Re: Mesc help ? [Re: Ifishhigh]
    #23553595 - 08/18/16 02:57 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

You don't need to be exact with the amount of water and if you don't add enough you can always add more to the mixture while it's cooking. The water is helpful in extracting the alkaloids so I recommend using a little bit more than just enough to cover the cactus.


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Re: Mesc help ? [Re: Peyote Road]
    #23554596 - 08/18/16 07:34 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks peyote road. Your very helpful. I can keep asking questions but I'll just do more research so I don't drive anyone crazy .


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