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mexxel
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Love shrooms but can't enjoy LSD
#23550759 - 08/17/16 06:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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So I've done shrooms probably 20 times by now, and acid around 10. When I first started doing shrooms they were quite intense and usually mindfucked me, but now they are my favorite psychedelic by far. They always give me the giggles and extreme euphoria, sometimes very close to that of MDMA. (In fact the last time I ate shrooms was more euphoric than I've ever felt from MDMA, even when rolling hard) And shrooms always make music so much better and give me the desire to dance.
But for some reason, Every single time I've taken LSD now, I get close to no euphoria whatsoever, and it gives me an uneasy feeling in my stomach for most of the trip. Everything looks and feels so artificial and it's almost like I just want it to end so i can sleep but of course the acid keeps me up. Music never sounds better to me, and I feel anti-social. The only time I can really enjoy it is if I drink quite a bit of alcohol while on it.
Does anyone have similar experiences? It really sucks because I see my friends and others enjoy LSD and talk about it so highly but I don't know why I would be different.
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Re: Love shrooms but can't enjoy LSD [Re: mexxel] 1
#23550827 - 08/17/16 06:42 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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LSD is a man manipulated molecule , it isnt natural , psicosilibin is directly from nature , it grows on the ground , weed and shrooms are not drugs to me , all the rest is , and as so you should avoid them , plus on a level 5 mushroom trip it will make lsd look like childs play
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Re: Love shrooms but can't enjoy LSD [Re: kamykazi3] 3
#23550853 - 08/17/16 06:53 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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kamykazi3 said: LSD is a man manipulated molecule , it isnt natural , psicosilibin is directly from nature , it grows on the ground , weed and shrooms are not drugs to me , all the rest is , and as so you should avoid them , plus on a level 5 mushroom trip it will make lsd look like childs play
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Re: Love shrooms but can't enjoy LSD [Re: kamykazi3]
#23550907 - 08/17/16 07:08 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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kamykazi3 said: LSD is a man manipulated molecule , it isnt natural , psicosilibin is directly from nature , it grows on the ground , weed and shrooms are not drugs to me , all the rest is , and as so you should avoid them , plus on a level 5 mushroom trip it will make lsd look like childs play
I agree on some level. However, The first time I mushrooms I ate 3.5g and experienced ego death. I didn't know who I was, who my friends were, where I was, time had no meaning to me, etc. Yet it wasn't nearly as terrifying as when I experienced ego death on LSD.
When I took only 125ug of LSD (it was my second time taking L) I experienced the same thing as I did on shrooms, except my entire vision turned to liquid and was self transforming into itself like a kaleidoscope. And It was then that I realized that I am god. I am all there is. I am all that has ever been. And this is what death is like. Perceiving but unable to Identify anything. I have nightmares to this day..
And to add to that: MDMA is the most beautiful experience one can have. Man made or not, I could never avoid such bliss.
Edited by mexxel (08/17/16 07:10 PM)
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Re: Love shrooms but can't enjoy LSD [Re: mexxel]
#23550925 - 08/17/16 07:13 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I can actually relate to a lot of what you're saying. I too find mushrooms to be very euphoric similar in fashion to MDMA but even better than MDMA because I also have had mushroom euphoria greatly outshine even my best rolls.
I don't find mushrooms to be very "giggly" though, sometimes I'll have intense uncontrollable laughter from them but for the most part they're not very giggly. Sometimes they will make things seem or look "funny" but it's not usually in a pleasant way, it's usually too bizarre and garbled for me to find it amusing.
I find LSD to be much more giggly and I also find LSD to be a bit better for music despite mushrooms being better for nearly everything else. Maybe try different music. Acid makes me pretty antisocial too, it will leave me feeling clueless about what to say but mushrooms have never done this to me.
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Re: Love shrooms but can't enjoy LSD [Re: kamykazi3]
#23550944 - 08/17/16 07:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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lol deffinatly not, Lsd is ALOT more intense then mushrooms BUT like he said its a man made drug meaning its A chemical and your gambling your life in the chemists hands....dont get me wrong ive had amazing acid and amazing trips but ive had far to many bad trips then good and my parents tell me its because of the chemist these days....atleast whats goin around on the street and have streered me away from it and have always supported mushrooms and have always told me GOOD acid is amazing but you simply just cant bank on it anymore...
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Re: Love shrooms but can't enjoy LSD [Re: Superrbudd420]
#23550960 - 08/17/16 07:23 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Superrbudd420 said: Lsd is ALOT more intense then mushrooms
Not true
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Superrbudd420 said: Lsd is ALOT more intense then mushrooms
Not true
Mushrooms>anything
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Re: Love shrooms but can't enjoy LSD [Re: Yeshmeister]
#23550987 - 08/17/16 07:30 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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mexxel
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AuroraBorealis88 said: I can actually relate to a lot of what you're saying. I too find mushrooms to be very euphoric similar in fashion to MDMA but even better than MDMA because I also have had mushroom euphoria greatly outshine even my best rolls.
I don't find mushrooms to be very "giggly" though, sometimes I'll have intense uncontrollable laughter from them but for the most part they're not very giggly. Sometimes they will make things seem or look "funny" but it's not usually in a pleasant way, it's usually too bizarre and garbled for me to find it amusing.
I find LSD to be much more giggly and I also find LSD to be a bit better for music despite mushrooms being better for nearly everything else. Maybe try different music. Acid makes me pretty antisocial too, it will leave me feeling clueless about what to say but mushrooms have never done this to me.
As far as the music is concerned, I ALWAYS listen to bassnectar when I trip. His work is not even music to me, it's love. The music is absolutely not the issue. But I have also had experiences where I don't laugh so much on mushrooms, but particularly when I first started eating them. For some odd reason now that I am familiar with the way they affect me, I almost feel like I can guide the mushroom trip I have. When I have a positive mindset and KNOW how the shrooms are going to affect me, that's usually how they do. And mushrooms don't usually leave me anti-social either.
I suppose it just comes down to the fact that everyone is different and reacts differently to both. But I do wish I could find the joy and recreation that so many speak of in LSD.
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I agree with you in some respects. LSD definitely feels artificial to me, and I believe this is a direct result of it being man made. I know some will argue a chemical is a chemical, but I reject that argument because the natural entheogens contain more than just a single chemical but a mix of chemicals that work together which provides a scientific bases for claiming that the natural entheogens are a different experience.
Of course I have other reasons for preferring the natural entheogens, which are less scientific but were shown to me by the spirits. For example, I was shown that the natural entheogens are in tune with the sacred balance of nature. This means they can provide certain kinds of healing and show you certain truths about nature and reality, that synthetics cannot (or least cannot nearly as well). I believe that the more nature oriented a person is in their spirituality, the more they will appreciate the natural entheogens.
I am not against synthetics however, as I believe they have certain advantages over the naturals psychedelics. I feel like they provide a more human oriented experience. For people who are not interested in exploring the secrets of nature, but simply want to explore their own psychology I think synthetics could be better option.
I also don't share your experience of music not sounding better on LSD, I think music sounds fantastic on LSD, possibly even better than on shrooms in some ways or at least I feel like LSD helps me to appreciate a wider range of music than mushrooms.
My main issue with LSD is the overly long duration and long drawn out come down, during which I can never sleep. FOr me, the mushroom/mescaline trip is at least as good as the acid trip (I like them better actually) and the come down is so much easier. So why take LSD and have to suffer such a long come down when I can get just as good a trip without that drawback?
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Re: Love shrooms but can't enjoy LSD [Re: Peyote Road] 1
#23551109 - 08/17/16 08:06 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Maybe you should try a LSD-Benzo mix... Though I believe that you should deal with it as is.
And for the man said mushrooms are stronger than LSD, keep in mind LSD is taken by micrograms. I want to see you take 2.5g of LSD and then say what you just said.
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Re: Love shrooms but can't enjoy LSD [Re: psilosalvia]
#23551136 - 08/17/16 08:11 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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psilosalvia said: And for the man said mushrooms are stronger than LSD, keep in mind LSD is taken by micrograms. I want to see you take 2.5g of LSD and then say what you just said.
Except that mushrooms are not a pure substance, the closest natural equivalent for L would be morning glories or Ergot.
Psilocybin may not be as potent by weight as LSD but that doesn't really mean either is stronger or weaker unless potency is all you base that off
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Re: Love shrooms but can't enjoy LSD [Re: musiclover420]
#23551153 - 08/17/16 08:16 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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psilosalvia said: And for the man said mushrooms are stronger than LSD, keep in mind LSD is taken by micrograms. I want to see you take 2.5g of LSD and then say what you just said.
Except that mushrooms are not a pure substance, the closest natural equivalent for L would be morning glories or Ergot.
Psilocybin may not be as potent by weight as LSD but that doesn't really mean either is stronger or weaker unless potency is all you base that off 
True. Though I don't think it's even comparable.. They're not the same trip, maybe they resemble it, but not the same.
On the base of a regular dose as for 120ug for LSD and 2g for mushrooms.. I don't feel any difference (intensity wise)
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Re: Love shrooms but can't enjoy LSD [Re: musiclover420]
#23551158 - 08/17/16 08:18 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah potency is not the same thing as strength. LSD is very strong in the sense that it is very easy to ingest massive doses.
But if we are talking about a normal dose of acid vs a normal dose of mushrooms then which is "stronger" is more up to subjective experience than anything. LSD can seem stronger because it lasts a lot longer, but mushrooms can be more confusing and other worldly.
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Re: Love shrooms but can't enjoy LSD [Re: Peyote Road]
#23551908 - 08/18/16 12:16 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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That's interesting because on some moderate to high doses of lsd (200ug+), sometimes it may quite feel like every pore of my body is having an orgasm. I've never gotten that euphoria from mushrooms or any other drug. I cant quite compare anything to the lsd euphoria.
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Re: Love shrooms but can't enjoy LSD [Re: The Discovery]
#23551916 - 08/18/16 12:19 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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The Discovery said: That's interesting because on some moderate to high doses of lsd (200ug+), sometimes it may quite feel like every pore of my body is having an orgasm. I've never gotten that euphoria from mushrooms or any other drug. I cant quite compare anything to the lsd euphoria. 
Can't compare substances that have a whole other body highs
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Re: Love shrooms but can't enjoy LSD [Re: psilosalvia]
#23552121 - 08/18/16 02:40 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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My whole body feels amazing when peaking and anything after on 4+ grams of shrooms
Straight euphoria for at least 3 hours
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Re: Love shrooms but can't enjoy LSD [Re: Yeshmeister]
#23552261 - 08/18/16 04:53 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I feel amazing on LSD and Shrooms. There's definitely different quality LSD going about though. The stuff I get now is very clean and fresh. The blotters are new and the high is so clean. No vasoconstriction or anything negative. When I peak I always feel a beautiful euphoria on LSD.
Shrooms have always made me feel amazingly nice too. I can feel a bit hot on shrooms but shrooms have a more medicinal value to them. A natural anti-depressant.
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Re: Love shrooms but can't enjoy LSD [Re: YeOlde]
#23552269 - 08/18/16 05:08 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I understand what you mean I a couple friends who cant do LSD because its just anxious or uncomfortable for them. They enjoy mush and DMT and so on but LSD brings ou alot of negative feelings in them.
One friend will get alot of negative thoughts, not so much hes depressed but very morbid violent and shit like that but just laughing about it (he would never hurt anyone just has a super fucked up sense of humor on LSD). I admit it can be funny but he lets his mind roll alittle too much and starts to let the analytical side of the mental trip get the best of him.
Some people enjoy it some dont i guess. I love both substances but for me I find mushrooms to be far more intense when it comes to body sensations or anxious feelings. I would favor them over LSD for the most part tho not for the potency because its so hard to compare them I find, but the experience is far more meaningful to me and it really helps me dive inwards.
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