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Warped 23 qt pressure cooker
    #23550187 - 08/17/16 02:59 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

So my big pc ran out of water while using it and the bottom warped outwards... How fucked is it? This happened on the last 23 qt pc i had as well but i continued to use it with no issues for quite a while till i got a new one.


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Re: Warped 23 qt pressure cooker [Re: 404]
    #23550244 - 08/17/16 03:21 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Mine has a warped bottom. I don't know how bad yours is but I'm sure you can still use it. Try to find a way so it won't sit dead center on the convex bottom so there's more surface area for it to sit on.


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Re: Warped 23 qt pressure cooker [Re: cr1s1s]
    #23550256 - 08/17/16 03:24 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Rogerini :thumbup:

I know te metal is weak now, but i'm hoping i can just get away with it for a little while till i can afford a new one


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Re: Warped 23 qt pressure cooker [Re: 404] * 1
    #23550262 - 08/17/16 03:26 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

if it holds pressure give'er


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Re: Warped 23 qt pressure cooker [Re: cronicr]
    #23550734 - 08/17/16 06:09 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

3 strikes your out, don't warp the next one :lol:


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Re: Warped 23 qt pressure cooker [Re: 404]
    #23550741 - 08/17/16 06:12 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

How much water do you use?  I like to get at least two or three inches and reduces down to about a half inch over 90 min.


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Re: Warped 23 qt pressure cooker [Re: Kenetic]
    #23550751 - 08/17/16 06:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

https://www.gopresto.com/downloads/instructions/01781.pdf

read those before use

3 quarts go in buddy that's 12 cups you may need to raise your trivet if you use pint jars or pasty plates but quart jars will be at least 50% out of the water


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Re: Warped 23 qt pressure cooker [Re: Kenetic]
    #23550788 - 08/17/16 06:30 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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How much water do you use?  I like to get at least two or three inches and reduces down to about a half inch over 90 min.





i use plenty of water. You run a risk of depleting the water (for me i go up to just below the quart line on the jars) if you run it on max heat on the stove for too long, which also puts the needle past the 15psi mark by just a bit. typically you put the heat on max to get it up, then bring it down to medium or so and play with it so the needle isn't trying to push past that mark. I did not do this and ended up with a dry cooker. cool thing though, the seed is slightly caramelized, but still usable.


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Re: Warped 23 qt pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23550790 - 08/17/16 06:31 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I did that as well.  Still works even bowed outward.


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Re: Warped 23 qt pressure cooker [Re: themadextractor]
    #23550797 - 08/17/16 06:34 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I run my 23 at 18psi by adding a little extra mass to the weight.

I lose at most 20% of the water I put in usually less. you should get about 10+ cups back out if you put 12 in.

this is in a 120-150 minute cycle.

you shouldn't be loosing nearly that much water. you need to check the operation or watch a video of how to turn the temperature down and hold it at operation PSI


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Re: Warped 23 qt pressure cooker [Re: 404]
    #23550801 - 08/17/16 06:34 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

well you answered the real question to your problem.....

maybe the all-american's are a bit more forgiving.


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Re: Warped 23 qt pressure cooker [Re: themadextractor]
    #23550813 - 08/17/16 06:37 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah. Thing is, i've asked some people lately out of curiosity and some have said it's possible for the structural integrity to have been compromised to some degree, even though this has happened to another cooker i no longer have in the past and even was able to use it for some time after.

I think in the long term, the best idea would be to replace these as they are not supposed to be like that, but I'm gonna go ahead and use it for now if there are no visible structure cracks in the actual metal.

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I run my 23 at 18psi by adding a little extra mass to the weight.

I lose at most 20% of the water I put in usually less. you should get about 10+ cups back out if you put 12 in.

this is in a 120-150 minute cycle.

you shouldn't be loosing nearly that much water. you need to check the operation or watch a video of how to turn the temperature down and hold it at operation PSI




Cool man. I'm gonna pass on any videos, as i can never really get the psi to go past 15 or 16, i'm just going to replace the unit down the line here soon and make sure i prep and watch everything a little better. I've been using this thing for a long long time and i'm not really a stranger, i just made a stupid mistake while being a little careless.


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Re: Warped 23 qt pressure cooker [Re: 404]
    #23550920 - 08/17/16 07:12 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

turn it down until the needle starts to fall, then gradually tip it up just a bit until the needle holds steady.

it should barely hiss out. put a quarter on top of the weight then you get to 15 and it's not at the threshold of the weight so even less will hiss out of the weight if you hold it at 15 but make the weight "hold 16ish"


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Re: Warped 23 qt pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23550927 - 08/17/16 07:14 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Appreciate it, but that's basically what I said above. Like I said, I'm not new to pressure cooking.


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Re: Warped 23 qt pressure cooker [Re: 404]
    #23550931 - 08/17/16 07:15 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I know, but I'm not the one warping PCs :shrug:


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Re: Warped 23 qt pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
    #23550982 - 08/17/16 07:28 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

:facepalm: christ, you can't even read the OP or add any relevant information that hasn't already been answered. get the fuck out with the attitude. You literally just repeated what I stated not one post above you. I asked what people's opinions were on replacing the unit or continuing to use it, not HOW to use it. Fucking learn to read  :House2:

I recently had some family pass away just last night and i'm so not in the mood to deal with this snarky irrelevant nonsense.

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Re: Warped 23 qt pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23550986 - 08/17/16 07:29 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

i have a few questions

1. what brand of PC do you have? i'm pretty sure i could literally run over my PC with an 18 wheeler truck and it wouldn't dent or bend.

2. can you post a pic of how bad it is warped

3. have you seen picture or videos of PC's exploding, i personally would never use one that appeared to be compromised in any way.


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Re: Warped 23 qt pressure cooker [Re: IlBLisSlI]
    #23550991 - 08/17/16 07:31 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Warped 23 qt pressure cooker [Re: IlBLisSlI]
    #23550992 - 08/17/16 07:32 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

1. Presto
2. yeah, give me a little bit and i'll update this post.
3. Have used in the past, I'm growing more cautious the more I do this shit... so i'm getting to be in agreement with this.


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Re: Warped 23 qt pressure cooker [Re: 404]
    #23550997 - 08/17/16 07:32 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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:facepalm: christ, you can't even read the OP or add any relevant information that hasn't already been answered. get the fuck out with the attitude. You literally just repeated what I stated not one post above you. I asked what people's opinions were on replacing the unit or continuing to use it, not HOW to use it. Fucking learn to read  :House2:

I recently had some family pass away just last night and i'm so not in the mood to deal with this snarky irrelevant nonsense.

Thanks to cronicr, therma, and kenetic for your input.




Wow man that's extremely rude.  I know his comment was kind of arrogant too but you'll get banned quick for that kind of talk.  I've been banned twice already for way less.

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Re: Warped 23 qt pressure cooker [Re: Kenetic] * 1
    #23551015 - 08/17/16 07:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

:doublefacepalm: he needs to learn to read and add something worth adding. i mentioned i knew why it warped, and he insisted on giving posting bloody instructions. I tried being nice about it... Are you ready to move on with me now? That'd be really great if you are.


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Re: Warped 23 qt pressure cooker [Re: 404]
    #23551039 - 08/17/16 07:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I'd use it as long as it didn't rock or tip over.

What else can I say, your question has been answered.

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Re: Warped 23 qt pressure cooker [Re: 404]
    #23551041 - 08/17/16 07:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

As for the picture, I just checked out the bottom for the first time. No visible cracks, just some tiny scraps from whatver it sat on recently.




The warping is really minor right now, enough to fuck with the bottom's ability to heat evenly and teeter slightly from the middle as it acts a sprt of fulcrum.


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Re: Warped 23 qt pressure cooker [Re: Kenetic] * 1
    #23551056 - 08/17/16 07:50 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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welcome to the shroomery!




You're not serious are you? I really can't tell if this is serious due to a lack of observation, or just an attempt to stoke the fire. I've been here for 6 years. Man, mushcult seems like it needs some cleaning up from what seems to be kids scrambling for a trusted cult tag.


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    #23551073 - 08/17/16 07:56 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

You have a terrible attitude man.  You fit right in here


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Re: Warped 23 qt pressure cooker [Re: Kenetic]
    #23551085 - 08/17/16 07:59 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)


These newly regs. I swear.


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Re: Warped 23 qt pressure cooker [Re: 404]
    #23551102 - 08/17/16 08:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Set it upside down, put a 2 x 4 on it and bang it flat with a mallet. I had to do this to mine after I let a friend borrow it. I've had it for years since.


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    #23551115 - 08/17/16 08:07 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Fuck yeah, you were able to put it back in with what, a rubber mallet? Thanks for the tip :thumbup:


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    #23551138 - 08/17/16 08:12 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

this may or may not be safe. bend a paper clip back and forth enough times and it will weaken and break. pressure cookers are dealing with tremendous pressures. i would not suggest doing this for your own safety even if it has worked in the past.


i would take some time to save up a little cash and buy a quality all american pressure caner http://www.allamericancanner.com/allamericanpressurecanner.htm
its cast aluminum not pressed sheet metal like a lot of the cheaper ones like presto


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Re: Warped 23 qt pressure cooker [Re: 404]
    #23551161 - 08/17/16 08:18 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Fuck yeah, you were able to put it back in with what, a rubber mallet? Thanks for the tip :thumbup:




You set the 2x4 on the bottom of the PC. Whack the 2x4 with a mallet. Hammer won't do it.

The guy above me is right, it's not the safest thing in the world, and just cause I got away with it doesn't mean you will, but it's worked for me a few times. Get a new PC ASAP though.


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Re: Warped 23 qt pressure cooker [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #23551174 - 08/17/16 08:22 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah was gonna say. I asked prisoner about it before this thread the other day and he mentioned the same thing. He was kind of like, "yeah you can still use it... on an outdoor stove 50 feet away" :lol:

And word, they have a new presto for about a hundred bucks at ace right now... I'd love to get one of those big 41 jar canners/autoclaves, but the larger ones that would make things worth it for me is just well out of my price range for me right now. I've got some things on the car to fix like tires and hoses and some other things as well as a laptop to replace at the moment.


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Re: Warped 23 qt pressure cooker [Re: 404] * 1
    #23551194 - 08/17/16 08:28 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

honestly i am not the most experienced cultivator. I've only been at it for 3 or 4 years but i can honestly say i'm only trying to caution you for your own safety. i don't want anything bad to happen to you or your house that you could have prevented.
please just weigh the risks/rewards and ask yourself what your safety is worth to you. only you can answer that question but i legitimately worry for you or anyone else who would cook with a weakened PC

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    #23551214 - 08/17/16 08:32 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Know that if you get an AA941 you're gonna have to get an outdoor burner. A full one is way more weight than any at-home stove can handle.


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    #23551239 - 08/17/16 08:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

a  921 21 is more than enough for most people and much much larger than any cheaper model presto or Walmart brand PC most people will run across. but yes you are correct the largest of the large may be an issue with weight and also with fitting under an over oven microwave if the user has one (so keep that in mind).


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Re: Warped 23 qt pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23551247 - 08/17/16 08:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I run my 23 at 18psi by adding a little extra mass to the weight.




aha! A nice little trick. Higher psi sounded nice but I didn't want to mess with installing new parts in it after hearing about other peoples issues with it in that one thread..

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Re: Warped 23 qt pressure cooker [Re: Psilosopherr] * 2
    #23551403 - 08/17/16 09:33 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

http://www.water-rockets.com/article.pl?106,0
"A 2-liter plastic bottle will easily hold 100 psi without rupturing"

https://www.quora.com/Under-what-circumstance-would-a-pressure-cooker-explode-and-what-kind-of-damage-would-it-do
"as long as the pressure builds up at a reasonable rate it will fail at the weakest point,
and that's usually the valve or the seal."

I think it's -highly- unlikely that anything you've done to the pot is going to weaken it to the point where the
pot explodes before the overpressure plug shoots out and before the seal fails.


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Re: Warped 23 qt pressure cooker [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #23551407 - 08/17/16 09:34 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

they're soo cheap I wouldn't risk it.  I got my last 28qrt PC for 50 bucks on Amazon delivered in 3 days


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    #23555234 - 08/18/16 10:02 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Sorry for your loss.  I would say that warped metal is not repairable.  It might still be usable, but probably won't perform as well, if at all.  Sounds like your PC of choice is either a POS, or you are not using it correctly, or both.  Would hate for you to blow your face off one day.  Pony up and get an AA.  I lose less than a half an inch of water with mine for 90 minute cooks.


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Re: Warped 23 qt pressure cooker [Re: WeavieWonder]
    #23555266 - 08/18/16 10:08 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Only an inch?! Yeah, presto sucks i guess compared to that. And yeah, it's probably both.


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Re: Warped 23 qt pressure cooker [Re: 404]
    #23555272 - 08/18/16 10:09 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

My 23 loses maybe an inch in 120m :shrug: and that is at 18 pounds

12 cups in 3q or 3L get 10+ cups back out


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Re: Warped 23 qt pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
    #23555489 - 08/18/16 11:15 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I got 2 warped PCs I've been using for awhile now.. it's when they look like this is when you gotta start worrying



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Re: Warped 23 qt pressure cooker [Re: Mad Season]
    #23555491 - 08/18/16 11:16 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I'm not even sure what i'm looking at, discoloration on the bottom from use or what


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    #23555512 - 08/18/16 11:27 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Dimples and holes forming from running dry too many times. These days I don't even let my weight jiggle at all with added weights on it.


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Re: Warped 23 qt pressure cooker [Re: Mad Season]
    #23555970 - 08/19/16 06:18 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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These days I don't even let my weight jiggle at all with added weights on it.




This.

If you tape a couple of coins on your PC and lower your heat once pressure builds, you can get it to hover just a little bit more than 15psi without the weight jiggling at all. This saves a lot of water. I notice that my Presto actually starts jiggling just a little bit below 15psi without added weight so it needs more fire=more water being wasted as the steam is pushing the weight to make it hold onto it.

I think I have a 50 and 10 euro cent coins taped onto it atm, that should be like 12grams. I actually do it to decrease the noise it makes. It's not that annoying when it's not jiggling.


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Re: Warped 23 qt pressure cooker [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23555993 - 08/19/16 06:38 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Trust the weight not the gauge. If it says 14 but is jiggle you still need to turn it down


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