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InvisibleEl Torcho
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Re: San Pedro cutting replanted [Re: Barracho]
    #23563220 - 08/21/16 03:12 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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75% man.. I hate to have them wet.




Wetter the better. :wink:

I only use about 15% of perlite/pumice in my mix. I also mulch with various organic goodies to feed/keep the soil even more moist. I live in an area that averages 4" of rain a month. I use fabric pots though.

So if my math is correct, if I had two pots one with my soil mix one with yours, my soil would have 2.5 as much actual 'active' soil content. And that's using your 67/33 numbers.


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Re: San Pedro cutting replanted [Re: El Torcho]
    #23563235 - 08/21/16 03:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

You obviously didn't read my post right after that.. and good for you man glad you found a system that works for you. Happy growing man.. not everyone has to copy you it isn't the recipe for success. Pay more for undesirable contents in your soil it doesn't matter to me.

My mix offers organic fert to the mix plus micro nutrients from the stone.. feed the your 20-20-20. Even more money you spent on "being lazy"


Edited by Barracho (08/21/16 03:24 PM)


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Re: San Pedro cutting replanted [Re: Barracho]
    #23563282 - 08/21/16 03:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I find it funny how you say soil doesn't matter they will grow in anything but yet your arguing soil content right now.. thought it doesn't matter bro. You don't need anything specialized just a bag of crap and some perlite


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Re: San Pedro cutting replanted [Re: Barracho]
    #23563301 - 08/21/16 03:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I find it funny how you say soil doesn't matter they will grow in anything but yet your arguing soil content right now.. thought it doesn't matter bro. You don't need anything specialized just a bag of crap and some perlite




Most of us are going for perfection not the other way around.


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Re: San Pedro cutting replanted [Re: Barracho]
    #23563400 - 08/21/16 04:32 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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feed the your 20-20-20.





:canthelpbutlaugh:

You're confused.


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Re: San Pedro cutting replanted [Re: El Torcho]
    #23563417 - 08/21/16 04:38 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Yesterday I whipped up 2 different "cactus mixes" that are way better than anything you could get in a bag
only took a couple seconds since I keep buckets of premix around, a bucket of premixed humus/worm castings, some prepped coir, and a stone/perlite bucket

only problem is that my coir got wet in the rain so now I have to dry the whole mix before I use it...

one is a mix I use for my nonpsychedelic cacti that I don't care about as much, 6/2/2 coir/humus/worm castings 4/4 perlite/sharp stone
my trich mix was 3/2 humus/worm castings 3/2 perlite/sharp stone scoop of coffee


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Re: San Pedro cutting replanted [Re: the_r3dz]
    #23563431 - 08/21/16 04:43 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Scoop of coffee?


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Re: San Pedro cutting replanted [Re: Barracho]
    #23563438 - 08/21/16 04:44 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah cacti love vanilla french roast.


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Re: San Pedro cutting replanted [Re: JacobStorm]
    #23563448 - 08/21/16 04:48 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Little nitrogen booster. Dried spent coffee grounds
got them from a coffeeshop before they closed

http://extension.oregonstate.edu/lane/sites/default/files/documents/cffee07.pdf


Edited by the_r3dz (08/21/16 04:49 PM)


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Re: San Pedro cutting replanted [Re: the_r3dz]
    #23563615 - 08/21/16 05:44 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Sweet. Never tried it I know you can feed them to worms to make that sweet compost they digest


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Re: San Pedro cutting replanted [Re: theMallacht]
    #23564687 - 08/22/16 12:08 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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mutant said:
I find all these comments amusing, to say the least...

lol and noone replied to the dude's question.

dude these are among the easiest cacti to grow, you can put lots of 1-year old seedlings in one pot sure, no problem, for a while

I propably have a totally different perspective than others, but trichocereus grow quick, they get rootbound a lot, so eventually its best each cactus gets its own big pot or go to the ground

you cant place them in a big enough container. they will rootbound any fucking pot

PS: you can safely ignore all of these suggestions and use the cheapest potting soil plus some perlite, these guys are soil obsessives and trichocereus is not a needy thingy, it only needs lots of water and soon enough ferts or replanting..


PS2: hay question for you smartasses, if you know so much about soil, what soil do you use for the real hard to grow cacti or hard to grow plants, like ephedra, e.novo ... what do you use for xerophytic plants, what do you use for turbinicarpus and aztekium??






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I don't really notice the bark that much. There's Lava Rock, Sand, and Volcanic Pumice.

I do typically add some coco as well. I do that to all soils though so I didn't think to mention it.

It's a cactus man, they'll really grow in any soil. I grow them commercially and one of the dudes I do business with just plants them straight in ground. His are just as thick if not thicker than a lot of mine. Which, really sucks because several of my in-ground plots I really put a lot of time/money into the soils. :/






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Re: San Pedro cutting replanted [Re: theMallacht]
    #23564996 - 08/22/16 03:49 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Size and overall health are not necessarily synonymous.


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Re: San Pedro cutting replanted [Re: El Torcho]
    #23565157 - 08/22/16 06:53 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Haha


Edited by Barracho (08/22/16 06:55 AM)


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Re: San Pedro cutting replanted [Re: Barracho]
    #23565171 - 08/22/16 07:02 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Thats an extremely well articulated response.


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Re: San Pedro cutting replanted [Re: El Torcho]
    #23565178 - 08/22/16 07:06 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Alright you two...
you're both pretty

and neither of your soil mixes are great :lmafo:
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Re: San Pedro cutting replanted [Re: the_r3dz]
    #23565232 - 08/22/16 07:45 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

R3dz I figured out we are just feeding the troll here. The OP got the message and sounds like he knows what direction to go. There too much contradiction going on in here to even continue this crazy argument


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Re: San Pedro cutting replanted [Re: Barracho]
    #23565337 - 08/22/16 08:47 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Name calling isn't allowed. But it's the tactic of people who have no idea what they are talking about.


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Re: San Pedro cutting replanted [Re: El Torcho]
    #23565343 - 08/22/16 08:49 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Ok buddy... have a good one


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Re: San Pedro cutting replanted [Re: Barracho]
    #23565351 - 08/22/16 08:52 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Likewise.


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Re: San Pedro cutting replanted [Re: El Torcho]
    #23566430 - 08/22/16 04:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

There's a reason why so many people have switched over to the Facebook groups like "Trichocereus Appreciation Group" and "The Trichocereus Community" - to name a couple ... It's not so much of a pissing contest. People over there acknowledge that there's more than one way to skin a cat and don't argue over petty shit like this.


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