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LogicaL Chaos
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Re: Anyone else like low dose DMT? [Re: mushpunx]
#23555501 - 08/18/16 11:22 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I accidently discovered my love for low dosing DMT after my first DMT Acacia Confusa extraction...
After i finished the extraction using Thick Lights tek, i ended up with some crystals but mostly golden goo.
I proceded to smoke the goo to find out that it was quite impotent, and i was a little dissappointed. But as i smoked a little more, i found this place of low dose DMT. It was wonderful. Similar to coming up on shrooms, but different in its own way. Almost more alien so to speak.
And the euphoria of that low dose of DMT was incredible. Really wonderful feeling to be in. And it lacked the sheer intensity of medium to higher doses had.....
I could gradually step into DMT-world without freaking myself out, each toke of goo got me just a little bit higher, in a gradual way.
I really enjoy low doses od DMT, would be great for a day at the lake on a sunny day, or looking at the sky on a clear night. Its like a psychedelic relaxant.
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Re: Anyone else like low dose DMT? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#23556136 - 08/19/16 08:01 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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For me, the DMT-experience consists of three possible levels:
-First, most mellow level is what you describe. It's nice, puts you in a good mood. Isn't too crazy. Some visuals, too!
-Second is the level I feel least comfortable with. It's where visions start to get stronger and my mind is fucked. I feel so confused, weirded out.. Who am I? Who is you? Everything melts and melts together into one chaotic soup. Not visually, but existentially. The level of confusion I experience can be too much at times.
-Third is the break through, of course. I feel this is less intense than the previous level. It's less confusing because you don't have a chance to think about it all. You just observe in amazement.
So yeah, for me it's either mellow or full out. I try to avoid that second level, mostly. I really don't feel comfortable in it.
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Re: Anyone else like low dose DMT? [Re: mushpunx]
#23556578 - 08/19/16 11:37 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's interesting but I much prefer a break through
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Re: Anyone else like low dose DMT? [Re: Satyr604] 1
#23557157 - 08/19/16 03:05 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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You said exactly how I feel about DMT's "levels" as well.
That 'Middle' area that you can get stuck in when you don't take a ful dose can be more terrifying than the breakthrough dose. A few times I've gotten stuck in that space and all I could do was lie down shivering, waiting for it to be over.
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Re: Anyone else like low dose DMT? [Re: mctaveesh]
#23557289 - 08/19/16 03:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's really becoming a fashion in Europe to use it like this, might be because of the rise of vaporizers and information spreading fast around the world. Be wary though, "With DMT you can trip all day if you want, but at any point you cam lay down the pipe and come back down". i am not too sure, i think that every trip does change reality a little in the long term. Anyways... enjoy !
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Re: Anyone else like low dose DMT? [Re: Satyr604]
#23559208 - 08/20/16 06:09 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Satyr604 said: For me, the DMT-experience consists of three possible levels:
-First, most mellow level is what you describe. It's nice, puts you in a good mood. Isn't too crazy. Some visuals, too!
-Second is the level I feel least comfortable with. It's where visions start to get stronger and my mind is fucked. I feel so confused, weirded out.. Who am I? Who is you? Everything melts and melts together into one chaotic soup. Not visually, but existentially. The level of confusion I experience can be too much at times.
-Third is the break through, of course. I feel this is less intense than the previous level. It's less confusing because you don't have a chance to think about it all. You just observe in amazement.
So yeah, for me it's either mellow or full out. I try to avoid that second level, mostly. I really don't feel comfortable in it.
Awesome breakdown.
I feel the same way. I have yet to brave the third level. I guess when u breakthu, there is no way to feel overwhelmed, cause it happens so fast that u cannot even have that thought?
Remnds me of jumping off a cliff into a body of water: youre scared to jump off but when finally do, it happens to fast, the sensation of being pulled down into the water, that there is no "time" to feel overwhelmed or scared, as the fall happens so fast, there no time to react.
I finally understand it now.....
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LogicaL Chaos said:
Awesome breakdown.
I feel the same way. I have yet to brave the third level. I guess when u breakthu, there is no way to feel overwhelmed, cause it happens so fast that u cannot even have that thought?
Remnds me of jumping off a cliff into a body of water: youre scared to jump off but when finally do, it happens to fast, the sensation of being pulled down into the water, that there is no "time" to feel overwhelmed or scared, as the fall happens so fast, there no time to react.
I finally understand it now..... 
That's mostly what it comes down to, yeah. :p
Though, don't for a second think a break through isn't intense. It's left me mumbling, crying and gagging more than once. I've also experienced pure fear during a break through. It just came over me. But I do find it more beautiful and less confusing than the stage before it.
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Re: Anyone else like low dose DMT? [Re: Satyr604] 1
#23559585 - 08/20/16 10:17 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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So many DMT trips where it was over and I'm just sitting there saying: "What... The Fuck... Was that... What... THE FUCK WAS THAT!?!?"
I've had some breakthroughs that filled me with so much love though that for me it's worth going for the breakthrough experience every time. Even though I know I'm risking getting into those eternally weird, scary realms.
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Re: Anyone else like low dose DMT? [Re: Satyr604] 1
#23559644 - 08/20/16 10:45 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I tested a small amount after my first extraction, mainly because I don't have a way to measure milliliters, and everything I read recommended 50ml or less. And I read Chinacat's report on injecting 75ml if my memory serves me correctly. Anyway, I guessed out a small dose onto an oil vaporizer, took the entire amount in one pull, and enjoyed visuals much like Aztec or Mayan art/hieroglyphs. My body vibrated and it was very enjoyable and easy to handle. My next attempt was about an hour later, in which I made a "sandwich" of a layer of weed, layer of DMT, layer of weed. I carefully applied flame in order to not scorch the spice. 1 pull, nothing, 2 pulls, my fingers began taking on spiral designs that were moving and changing colors. 3 pulls, all the features in the room turned into fractals, and finally, 4th pull, which to this day I don't know how I managed it, sent me blasting off into another realm. My last thought was like being at the top of a really scary rollercoaster where you know you're about to plummet but there's nothing you can do about it, "OH, SHIT!!!!" There was, at the other side of this blast, a place of indescribable beauty, wisdom, and love. There was also a male-like presence which roughly yet playfully "shoved me about" kind of like a kid on a playground....the whole time this was happening, a tornado of swirling colors containing all the information of the universe spun wildly around me. And I got the strong impression that I was well known in this place, that I had been missed. Days later, I ventured on my 3rd journey into this realm, I placed a healthy sized pile onto my oil vape pipe, and using a torch, heated the substance up until it liquefied. I pulled long and slow after ensuring that the torch was off. I exhaled a large cloud of smoke and quickly pulled again. That's when I felt it coming on so powerfully that I carefully laid my pipe on a damp towel that I had set aside just for that purpose. Now just let me take a moment to clarify something. I'm 52 years old, have been tripping on mushrooms since I was 13 walking around the cow-fields of Florida, done LSD, mescaline, MDMA, you name it, as well as a lifelong affair with weed, alcohol, periods of cocaine, meth, and opiate addictions. So I ain't no virgin, but nothing, NOTHING prepares you for the absolute ego-death that follows a breakthrough dose. NOTHING. I met a female presence, without actually seeing her, I knew she was beautiful. Without ever actually hearing her, she told me I was so missed, and once again I understood that I had been there before. I had actually spent more time there than in the present body of which I now occupied. I knew I was loved. All of this came to me telepathically, which is how communication seems to be done in this place, at least as far as my experience goes. I understood that I was a traveller of all time and space and that this incarnation was only one of many. (I will stress that before this experience, I was atheistic in my belief systems and never gave any credence to reincarnation or life after death, especially after a heroin OD death {8 minutes no vitals} where I saw nothing, felt nothing, knew nothing) Also, I wanted to bring back to share some of the things that I "remembered" while there, but was told I couldn't. My last words that I spoke before leaving was: "but I want to, the world needs to know." And my answer was simply that I can't bring it back, it's not time to reveal. As I came back to this reality; I could hear myself saying; "I love you, I remember you, I love you." The daylight was just breaking outside, and the birds were excitedly welcoming a new day, and it occurred to me that they also "knew"....up until that day I had been battling with depression, and dreaded each new day, but this morning I went outside and fell onto the ground in my garden crying tears of joy and gratitude. Over the next few days I could think of nothing else, and even though the experience has faded over the weeks, I am greatly and permanently improved in all aspects of my life. So to sum it all up, I would have to say that small doses, while pleasant, are only entertaining at best, and that breakthrough doses, while scary at first, are truly the most rewarding and are what I feel the plant teachers intend for us.
Edited by soultripper (08/20/16 06:46 PM)
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Re: Anyone else like low dose DMT? [Re: soultripper]
#23561130 - 08/20/16 07:59 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've light dosed before. But for the day, mushies will last much longer.
Also... I get a guilty feeling when I walk on DMT. Like if I'm intentionally just walking around the house puffing on it. I'll feel like I'm abusing it. However, I could go to work on .5-1g mushy, and not feel guilt.
Strange.
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Re: Anyone else like low dose DMT? [Re: topherchris]
#23561171 - 08/20/16 08:10 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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topherchris said: I've light dosed before. But for thickly th mushies will last much longer.
Also... I get a guilty feeling when I walk on DMT. Like if I'm intentionally just walking around the house puffing on it. I'll feel like I'm abusing it. However, I could go to work on .5-1g mushy, and not feel guilt.
Strange.
I dont like to walk on it for some reason either . I dunno about feeling guilty tho... youre allowed to enjoy it
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Re: Anyone else like low dose DMT? [Re: soultripper]
#23562193 - 08/21/16 06:13 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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soultripper said: I tested a small amount after my first extraction, mainly because I don't have a way to measure milliliters, and everything I read recommended 50ml or less. And I read Chinacat's report on injecting 75ml if my memory serves me correctly. Anyway, I guessed out a small dose onto an oil vaporizer, took the entire amount in one pull, and enjoyed visuals much like Aztec or Mayan art/hieroglyphs. My body vibrated and it was very enjoyable and easy to handle. My next attempt was about an hour later, in which I made a "sandwich" of a layer of weed, layer of DMT, layer of weed. I carefully applied flame in order to not scorch the spice. 1 pull, nothing, 2 pulls, my fingers began taking on spiral designs that were moving and changing colors. 3 pulls, all the features in the room turned into fractals, and finally, 4th pull, which to this day I don't know how I managed it, sent me blasting off into another realm. My last thought was like being at the top of a really scary rollercoaster where you know you're about to plummet but there's nothing you can do about it, "OH, SHIT!!!!" There was, at the other side of this blast, a place of indescribable beauty, wisdom, and love. There was also a male-like presence which roughly yet playfully "shoved me about" kind of like a kid on a playground....the whole time this was happening, a tornado of swirling colors containing all the information of the universe spun wildly around me. And I got the strong impression that I was well known in this place, that I had been missed. Days later, I ventured on my 3rd journey into this realm, I placed a healthy sized pile onto my oil vape pipe, and using a torch, heated the substance up until it liquefied. I pulled long and slow after ensuring that the torch was off. I exhaled a large cloud of smoke and quickly pulled again. That's when I felt it coming on so powerfully that I carefully laid my pipe on a damp towel that I had set aside just for that purpose. Now just let me take a moment to clarify something. I'm 52 years old, have been tripping on mushrooms since I was 13 walking around the cow-fields of Florida, done LSD, mescaline, MDMA, you name it, as well as a lifelong affair with weed, alcohol, periods of cocaine, meth, and opiate addictions. So I ain't no virgin, but nothing, NOTHING prepares you for the absolute ego-death that follows a breakthrough dose. NOTHING. I met a female presence, without actually seeing her, I knew she was beautiful. Without ever actually hearing her, she told me I was so missed, and once again I understood that I had been there before. I had actually spent more time there than in the present body of which I now occupied. I knew I was loved. All of this came to me telepathically, which is how communication seems to be done in this place, at least as far as my experience goes. I understood that I was a traveller of all time and space and that this incarnation was only one of many. (I will stress that before this experience, I was atheistic in my belief systems and never gave any credence to reincarnation or life after death, especially after a heroin OD death {8 minutes no vitals} where I saw nothing, felt nothing, knew nothing) Also, I wanted to bring back to share some of the things that I "remembered" while there, but was told I couldn't. My last words that I spoke before leaving was: "but I want to, the world needs to know." And my answer was simply that I can't bring it back, it's not time to reveal. As I came back to this reality; I could hear myself saying; "I love you, I remember you, I love you." The daylight was just breaking outside, and the birds were excitedly welcoming a new day, and it occurred to me that they also "knew"....up until that day I had been battling with depression, and dreaded each new day, but this morning I went outside and fell onto the ground in my garden crying tears of joy and gratitude. Over the next few days I could think of nothing else, and even though the experience has faded over the weeks, I am greatly and permanently improved in all aspects of my life. So to sum it all up, I would have to say that small doses, while pleasant, are only entertaining at best, and that breakthrough doses, while scary at first, are truly the most rewarding and are what I feel the plant teachers intend for us.
Sounds like a beautiful experience, indeed. 
DMT alone rarely produces any real entities for me, be it in high or low doses. If it does, I don't feel like I can connect or 'communicate' with them. I'm there with them, but they're too alien for me to understand anything about them. I'm merely a puny, small thing compared to them.
I have only had one pure DMT break through experience with an entity that did communicate with me. However, it wasn't pleasant. It was this being, a demon in a black, cloud-like robes. Its face, or what passed for it, was a fleshy mass covered with eyes and mouths. It spoke telepathically, but in a thousand different voices at once. I told it I didn't fear it, which was true. It answered me: "I know, yet you WILL respect me." I started contorting and twisting uncontrollably, flailing my arms about and gagging. It was no fun at all, but I still was not scared.
Don't get me wrong though, that was only one of many experiences. And only one of two unpleasant experiences.
However, if Caapi is involved, it's changed drastically. When I smoke changa, I tend to have more visions of entities and contact with them when I break through. The most beautiful of it all was when I found myself in this realm made out of red and black. I was approached by an entity. I could not see her, but it was clearly female and very sexual. It grabbed hold of me and made every fibre of my being vibrate in pure ecstacy. It was sexual pleasure, but different from sex entirely. It was incredible.
I've had lizard like beings that didn't speak to me, but 'radiated' something like "It's okay, we're good folks" on changa.
I don't believe that real life creatures are spawned from a different dimension or anything like that, they are not aliens. I know fully well DMT is still a drug that plays with the mind, though does so very thoroughly. I think DMT manages to take something out of your personality, a character trait perhaps, and manifest for you as a persona.
Everyone of us has evil inside himself, has a dark side. That's where the demon came from. And no, I don't have to fear it, but I should keep in mind that it's there. I'm a very sexual being, so I think that's where the sexual encounter on changa came from. I don't think lower doses are recreational by default, though. I think the mood lift or the change in perception rather than the total conversion of it, can be just as therapeutic. If not more so, in some cases. It's like lower doses make you at ease with the reality which currently surrounds you. Mid doses make you question your reality around you. Higher doses, break throughs, kick your reality right in the nutsack, replace it with a new one and say 'Look, this is your reality for the time being.'
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Re: Anyone else like low dose DMT? [Re: mushpunx]
#23562198 - 08/21/16 06:19 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sometimes I'll spend a whole evening through into the night listening to Jazz, writing and taking small doses of changa every 30-45 minutes. Good times. I always sleep like a baby when I do, too.
Edited by Into The Woods (08/21/16 08:31 AM)
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Re: Anyone else like low dose DMT? [Re: Satyr604]
#23562312 - 08/21/16 08:08 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Very well said! Yes, I just started my morning out with a micro dose, just to be able to give well informed feedback, about an hour ago. Well, to be honest, all I had left was a microdose, so it wasn't all by choice. But I see what everyone means, I feel connected and refreshed, and when I went outside to enjoy the morning sun and watch my cats interact, I felt so content. I must admit that I was a bit disappointed by the anti-climatic results because it still came on like I was about to blast through, then I didn't. Has anyone else felt this way? Concerning the female presence, while I can't say it was actually sexual energy I felt, I can say with certainty that the love I felt coming from her was WWWWAAAAAYYYY more than I think I could ever be capable of on my own. And this is what causes me to question; "is this part of my inner psyche, or is this outside of my self?" Lizards and demons, haven't seen them yet, I agree that the demon could be a representation of your dark side. We all have one, mine has caused me immeasurable suffering and I believe I have already confronted it during mushroom experiences. I have only mixed it with weed, but should I ever get more plant material to do an extraction, I would be very interested in trying the blends that you refer to.
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Re: Anyone else like low dose DMT? [Re: Satyr604]
#23562316 - 08/21/16 08:11 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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When I encountered the female entity, I felt like she spoke with a thousand voices, much like your demon, but it was the most beautiful sound I had ever heard.
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