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paracelsusgold

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Re: experienced older cultivator gladly available for advice free of course to any sincere beginners [Re: paracelsusgold] 3
#23549071 - 08/17/16 05:45 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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how many times can I reuse my tin foil for jars?
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Re: experienced older cultivator gladly available for advice free of course to any sincere beginners [Re: blindingleaf]
#23549073 - 08/17/16 05:46 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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paracelsusgold

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not sure what you are trying to tell me? [Re: bodhisatta] 1
#23549078 - 08/17/16 05:53 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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dear folks i am not clear on what it is that you are trying to tell me? please clarify. thank you. sincerely ron k.
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paracelsusgold

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dear folks why are you using tin foil may i please ask? ron k.
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Re: not sure what you are trying to tell me? [Re: paracelsusgold] 1
#23549083 - 08/17/16 05:57 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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This section of the form is for people growing psychedelic mushrooms IE schedule 1 drugs.
Most techniques are far from their commercial counterparts
And the average person posting in this section "mushroom cultivation" has an IQ of 80 and types like they failed 10th grade.
The gourmet and Medicinal mushrooms section is probably more of what you want
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paracelsusgold

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thank you for the information [Re: bodhisatta] 1
#23549089 - 08/17/16 06:04 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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dear folks i will check out the other category you have provided. i appreciate your input. i am interested in getting to know you better. i am trying to perhaps assist some sincere folks trying to cultivate mushrooms that are not that well experienced. thanks again. ron k.
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Quote:
blindingleaf said: how many times can I reuse my tin foil for jars?
Reuse it until there is a hole then you gotta toss it.
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paracelsusgold said: dear folks why are you using tin foil may I please ask? ron k.
1. To sustain the desired moisture content in jars during a pc run. Also a contam barrier. You take it off right before you knock it up.
2. Making spore prints. Ron K.
3. ?
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wtfcrazymofo said:
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blindingleaf said: how many times can I reuse my tin foil for jars?
Reuse it until there is a hole then you gotta toss it.
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paracelsusgold

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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: wtfcrazymofo] 1
#23549189 - 08/17/16 07:39 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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dear folks you do not need nor is it desirable to utlilize tinfoil not only because of what it is made of but also it is just not necessary. sincerely ron k.
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: paracelsusgold] 3
#23549192 - 08/17/16 07:42 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks for the tip ron k.
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: Inocuole]
#23549289 - 08/17/16 08:36 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Thanks for the tip ron k.
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: Peteyboy]
#23549322 - 08/17/16 08:51 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ron k. We use foil on the jars to keep our filters from being compromised. That question was like a test, and it would seem you did not pass.
You may be a good cultivator, but we grow ghetto style... with great success
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: dankington] 3
#23549339 - 08/17/16 09:02 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Poor guy edits his subject line every post too... Ron if you're a real person you will probably be shocked and appalled at the things we do here. I honestly don't know that I would recommend immersing yourself in this particular part of the site unless you're into psychedelics.
We tend to go at things hard and fast and well, obviously we're all criminals in the most technical sense. And a bunch of assholes. I worry a nice ol fella like yourself might get an undue reception due to certain... how to put it... differences in perspective.
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: Inocuole]
#23549379 - 08/17/16 09:26 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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If my yield exceeds 200% BE first flush using a 1:2 spawn ratio what should I expect for a second flush assuming I am growing cubes?
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23549382 - 08/17/16 09:27 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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What 2nd flush?
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Pastywhyte
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: Mad Season]
#23549391 - 08/17/16 09:31 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: Mad Season] 1
#23549392 - 08/17/16 09:31 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Poor guy edits his subject line every post too... Ron if you're a real person you will probably be shocked and appalled at the things we do here. I honestly don't know that I would recommend immersing yourself in this particular part of the site unless you're into psychedelics.
We tend to go at things hard and fast and well, obviously we're all criminals in the most technical sense. And a bunch of assholes. I worry a nice ol fella like yourself might get an undue reception due to certain... how to put it... differences in perspective.
Dad knows best...
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Pastywhyte said: If my yield exceeds 200% BE first flush using a 1:2 spawn ratio what should I expect for a second flush assuming I am growing cubes?
You can expect at least one more mushroom. Only one.
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Mad Season said: What 2nd flush? 
We all know Pasty only gets one flush per grow...

Right Ron K?
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: Mad Season]
#23549398 - 08/17/16 09:34 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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This thread is just awesome
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: Perception7]
#23549419 - 08/17/16 09:46 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: mrmazdarx9] 1
#23549443 - 08/17/16 09:59 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I kinda feel bad, it's like if a lanky socially awkward guy decides he's gonna go to some public place today and make friends, and the first venue he goes to, ends up being a meetup spot for local drug lords and he walks into their meeting like "Hey y'all, what's good in the hizzy?" and then things just go exceedingly downhill from there.
I don't want that to happen to this guy. Don't ask me why, I just feel guilt about it.
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: Inocuole] 2
#23549450 - 08/17/16 10:02 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Give the guy a break haha! Apparently he is an old, respected cultivator from the 70s and 80s. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23545555/page/3
He seems like he's just being friendly
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: natedawgnow] 1
#23549462 - 08/17/16 10:08 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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All jokes aside he is welcome to post on any board provided it's mostly on topic. Hope to see him in G&MM as well as MC or contams. Old dogs often know a few tricks. He might pick up a few from us as well. We are a bunch of jaded hardasses here but we can still all get along.
Cheers OP. Be sure to post in the pic of the day threads and browse through some of our ghetto methods and teks that we hold near and dear. There is room for all to learn and teach in these boards.
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: Inocuole]
#23549467 - 08/17/16 10:11 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: I kinda feel bad, it's like if a lanky socially awkward guy decides he's gonna go to some public place today and make friends, and the first venue he goes to, ends up being a meetup spot for local drug lords and he walks into their meeting like "Hey y'all, what's good in the hizzy?" and then things just go exceedingly downhill from there.
I don't want that to happen to this guy. Don't ask me why, I just feel guilt about it.
https://www.erowid.org/library/periodicals/journals/psychozoic_press/psychozoic_press_8_scan.pdf
p. 59
He's been around a while...
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23549492 - 08/17/16 10:20 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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mrmazdarx9 said: Dear folks    Sincerely Mr Mazda R.

I had to do it again, you guys are providing me some much needed comic relief during a busy work day! Hahaha
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: Inocuole]
#23549502 - 08/17/16 10:23 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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According to OP's first post, OP is the real deal.
Some googling confirms Ron's earlier research into Psilocybes and Amanitas, and other contributions to mycology.
http://msafungi.org/wp-content/uploads/Inoculum/35(2).pdf
https://www.erowid.org/library/periodicals/journals/psychozoic_press/psychozoic_press_8_scan.pdf
These were the first two periodicals that came up, though there's likely a lot more out there with information contributed by OP.
I see you Ron. Thank you for contributions!
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: Psilanthropist]
#23549514 - 08/17/16 10:28 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Psilanthropist said:
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Inocuole said: I kinda feel bad, it's like if a lanky socially awkward guy decides he's gonna go to some public place today and make friends, and the first venue he goes to, ends up being a meetup spot for local drug lords and he walks into their meeting like "Hey y'all, what's good in the hizzy?" and then things just go exceedingly downhill from there.
I don't want that to happen to this guy. Don't ask me why, I just feel guilt about it.
https://www.erowid.org/library/periodicals/journals/psychozoic_press/psychozoic_press_8_scan.pdf
p. 59
He's been around a while...
.... Holy shit. No wonder he's not afraid to put up his name. Pretty good reason not to go hard on the guy.
So, I wanna hear about some non-ghetto cultivation methods that negate the need for foil entirely, what's up with that?
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: Peteyboy]
#23549519 - 08/17/16 10:28 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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i this thread. and what a turn of events! much respect ron
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Pastywhyte
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: La Flama Blanca]
#23549532 - 08/17/16 10:34 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well I suspect that the use of pour agar and bags would remove the need for foil. Unfiltered jar lids threaded on loose for masters would also eliminate that need. But personally I like having foil kicking around, just in case. If the choice is between wrapping a syringe in foil to sterilize vs getting a new syringe everytime I need to aspirate some LC, I will go with the foil option.
However I'm open to alternative ideas too.
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23549541 - 08/17/16 10:40 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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But then, what do you print on? How do you get that "I know the rim of my jar is totally clean" feeling without it? I honestly don't think I'll ever fuck with bags. I'm just not into it, seems like a pain in the ass compared to what I'm doing now working out fine.
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: h0ldthedoor]
#23549549 - 08/17/16 10:43 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah, welcome! We just bust everyone's chops, but I'm keen to hear anything you have to offer Ron k.
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: Psilanthropist]
#23549563 - 08/17/16 10:51 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Psilanthropist said:
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Inocuole said: I kinda feel bad, it's like if a lanky socially awkward guy decides he's gonna go to some public place today and make friends, and the first venue he goes to, ends up being a meetup spot for local drug lords and he walks into their meeting like "Hey y'all, what's good in the hizzy?" and then things just go exceedingly downhill from there.
I don't want that to happen to this guy. Don't ask me why, I just feel guilt about it.
https://www.erowid.org/library/periodicals/journals/psychozoic_press/psychozoic_press_8_scan.pdf
p. 59
He's been around a while...
Wow this guy is like a living legend!! I am highly impressed! I'd love to get to know the guy he's forgotten more then I'll ever know!!
Ron K. ... thanks for the introduction and we are more then happy to welcome you to the community!!
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: Peteyboy]
#23549586 - 08/17/16 11:02 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have a copy of the psocybin mushroom growers handbook and apparently, back in the day, they took spore prints on glass microscope slides.
You put four in a square and take a print in the middle so you have 1 corner of each slide covered in spores.
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: natedawgnow]
#23549591 - 08/17/16 11:08 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah that is one area where we a little better off. Fruiting for cubes has come a long way as well. Ron might be interested to know that currently the most popular fruiting method is spawned bulk in a monotub, not sure if he would be familiar with them. We do a range of sizes and configurations but the most standard of course is a 66 quart sterilite with a 6 hole configuration. I will post an example.
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23549663 - 08/17/16 11:40 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oh damn... the plot thickens.
Ron K for President!
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: morty422]
#23549673 - 08/17/16 11:43 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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For sure, sorry for the attitude. You wouldn't believe the kind of shit we get in here. Or, maybe you would. But probably not since the internet has made the whole learning to grow thing quite a different beast than I'm sure it was years back. It's what you'd expect though. Immature folks taking good advice the wrong way, crackpot ideas by people who don't understand basic principles, people who are only here to grief other people, kids growing in their parents houses, etc.
It makes us very jaded online, sadly.
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: morty422]
#23549683 - 08/17/16 11:48 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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morty422 said: Oh damn... the plot thickens.
Ron K for President!
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: Inocuole]
#23549692 - 08/17/16 11:51 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: For sure, sorry for the attitude. You wouldn't believe the kind of shit we get in here. Or, maybe you would. But probably not since the internet has made the whole learning to grow thing quite a different beast than I'm sure it was years back. It's what you'd expect though. Immature folks taking good advice the wrong way, crackpot ideas by people who don't understand basic principles, people who are only here to grief other people, kids growing in their parents houses, etc.
It makes us very jaded online, sadly.
Like the guy who tried to reinvent the SAB with an electric lighter a few weeks back. That was too much...
Yeah. My apologies as well Ron... it looks like you have proven yourself in the world of mycology.
All of us here are jerks for sure.
Welcome to the Shroomery, I'd love to hear more from you in the future.
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: JesusDaMartian]
#23549695 - 08/17/16 11:51 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sometimes I think we'd all be seriously fucked without some of the nicer folks here... I should really work on giving people the benefit of the doubt. 
Granted, statistically so far, not many would deserve it. But still.
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: Inocuole]
#23549708 - 08/17/16 11:56 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ron K is OG as fuk. According to his first post he did a year hard time for possession. So OG, in fact, he posts his street address in his profile for his MSN address. Anonymity is for pussies in the eyes of Ron K.
Ron K once scissor kicked Angela Lansbury!
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: Psilanthropist]
#23549715 - 08/17/16 11:59 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nobody's gonna go after this dude who just wants to talk about mushrooms, he probably doesn't have anything to actually worry about. But yeah I've made a right embarrassment out of some people who left too much of their info on profile. I would remove it for fear of assholes like me who are slightly less respectful overall.
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: Inocuole]
#23549746 - 08/17/16 12:07 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Granted, statistically so far, not many would deserve it. But still.
What about your own son Inocuole? (I'm going to continue to pester you with father/son posts until you acknowledge my new title...)Quote:
Inocuole said: Nobody's gonna go after this dude who just wants to talk about mushrooms, he probably doesn't have anything to actually worry about. But yeah I've made a right embarrassment out of some people who left too much of their info on profile. I would remove it for fear of assholes like me who are slightly less respectful overall.
Yes, I would also delete the address off your profile. The internet is not a safe place for any of your personal information.
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: Inocuole]
#23549758 - 08/17/16 12:09 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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It is very hard not to get cynical. I used to be much nicer myself
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Ron K For President [Re: morty422]
#23549768 - 08/17/16 12:12 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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morty422 said: What about your own son Inocuole? (I'm going to continue to pester you with father/son posts until you acknowledge my new title...)
Sorry, you say something? Oh shit I'm late for a meeting, you'll have to catch me later...
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Re: Ron K For President [Re: Inocuole]
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Inocuole said:
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morty422 said: What about your own son Inocuole? (I'm going to continue to pester you with father/son posts until you acknowledge my new title...)
Sorry, you say something? Oh shit I'm late for a meeting, you'll have to catch me later...
Today I learned my momma's baby daddy is a jerk!
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Re: Ron K For President [Re: morty422]
#23549798 - 08/17/16 12:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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dankington said: It is very hard not to get cynical. I used to be much nicer myself 
There's days when I am pissy, but I try to be nice until given a reason not to be. Generally speaking I've found when I get angry on here, it's very misplaced, or just an overall miscommunication. Always give the benefit of the doubt, you'll be surprised how often you're happy you did.
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Re: Ron K For President [Re: Mad Season] 1
#23549804 - 08/17/16 12:21 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Ron K For President [Re: guyute22]
#23549816 - 08/17/16 12:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah I'm gonna feel terrible if I contributed to running him off, somebody shoot him a PM maybe?
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: Psilanthropist]
#23549824 - 08/17/16 12:26 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Psilanthropist said: Ron K is OG as fuk. According to his first post he did a year hard time for possession. So OG, in fact, he posts his street address in his profile for his MSN address. Anonymity is for pussies in the eyes of Ron K.
Ron K once scissor kicked Angela Lansbury!
Ron K, reading this thread..
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Re: Ron K For President [Re: Inocuole]
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Inocuole said: Yeah I'm gonna feel terrible if I contributed to running him off, somebody shoot him a PM maybe?
Or mail him a letter?
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Re: Ron K For President [Re: morty422]
#23549831 - 08/17/16 12:29 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Psilanthropist said: Ron K is OG as fuk. According to his first post he did a year hard time for possession. So OG, in fact, he posts his street address in his profile for his MSN address. Anonymity is for pussies in the eyes of Ron K.
Ron K once scissor kicked Angela Lansbury!
Ron K, reading this thread..

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Re: Ron K For President [Re: morty422]
#23549835 - 08/17/16 12:29 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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He'll be back no worries
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Re: Ron K For President [Re: Mad Season] 1
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Psilanthropist said: Ron K is OG as fuk. According to his first post he did a year hard time for possession. So OG, in fact, he posts his street address in his profile for his MSN address. Anonymity is for pussies in the eyes of Ron K.
Ron K once scissor kicked Angela Lansbury!
Ron K, reading this thread..


Ron K has no time for your inferior tin foil. He drapes his jars in Sasquatch hide, well known for its water-repellent qualities.
Ron K once inoculated WBS with a drop of his own semen. On this day, PE was gifted to the world.
To Ron K!
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Psilanthropist said: Ron K is OG as fuk. According to his first post he did a year hard time for possession. So OG, in fact, he posts his street address in his profile for his MSN address. Anonymity is for pussies in the eyes of Ron K.
Ron K once scissor kicked Angela Lansbury!
Ron K, reading this thread..


Ron K has no time for your inferior tin foil. He drapes his jars in Sasquatch hide, well known for its water-repellent qualities.
Ron K once inoculated WBS with a drop of his own semen. On this day, PE was gifted to the world.
To Ron K!
Hahahaha! Thats brilliant!
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: Psilanthropist]
#23549888 - 08/17/16 12:48 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Welcome Ron. It is good to see an elder statesman of cultivation on this site. I'm sure there are many cultivators here that can appreciate your years expertise (were not all young and know it all here). I might suggest you search this site to see what and how people are growing now. Maybe your knowledge can improve some of the newer techniques developed in the last 10 years. Maybe you have a few old tricks that have been forgotten. Beware, Trolls abound here under every bridge. Try not to take it personally. Thank You for joining us in our lifelong search for knowledge.
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Psilanthropist said: Ron K is OG as fuk. According to his first post he did a year hard time for possession. So OG, in fact, he posts his street address in his profile for his MSN address. Anonymity is for pussies in the eyes of Ron K.
Ron K once scissor kicked Angela Lansbury!
Ron K, reading this thread..


Ron K has no time for your inferior tin foil. He drapes his jars in Sasquatch hide, well known for its water-repellent qualities.
Ron K once inoculated WBS with a drop of his own semen. On this day, PE was gifted to the world.
To Ron K!
Hahahaha
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Re: Ron K For President [Re: Peteyboy]
#23550014 - 08/17/16 01:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dear Ron K, I have a few questions I was hoping maybe you could help answer.
1) Why does light trigger pinning? 2) Why do mushrooms grow towards light?
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1) it doesn't 2) They only grow to the light if they're getting insufficient amounts of it.
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are entirely dependent upon a mushrooms being oriented perfectly upright, with the gills or other hymenophoral elements being completely parallel to the vector of Earths gravity. Since spores fall along a gravitational vector, any deviation of hymenophore alignment from the normal will lead to an increased number of spores becoming entrapped within the gills. At the beginning of the last century, the eminent fungal physiologist AHR Buller observed that when a basidiocarp of Agaricus campestris was tilted a mere 5° from the normal, spore dispersal was cut in half. Clearly, a mushroom must have a way of keeping its hymenophoral elements aligned to the normal. However, mushrooms are incapable of locomotion and cannot simply move their gills into the correct position. Mushrooms deal with this problem in a similar way as do plants, through mechanisms known as tropic responses. In a tropic response, the organism grows toward or away from a stimulus rather than moving toward or away from it. Tropic responses include phototropism (response to light), gravitropism (response to gravity), thigmotropism (response to touch or contact), hydrotropism (response to water), and many other such responses. Tropic responses can be either positive (growing toward the stimulus) or negative (growing away from it). At first, mushroom primordia grow perpendicularly away from the surface from which they arise, independently of the direction of light or gravity, a response that may be some kind of negative thigmotropism or negative hydrotropism Soon after emergence, gravitropic and (in some species) phototropic responses become active. The majority of mushroom species exhibit growth that is negatively gravitropic along the stipe and positively gravitropic in the hymenophore. If a mushroom is tilted from the normal, it will grow in such a way that a bend will develop in the stipe until the mushroom is again realigned. This bending is key to the gravitropic response - once the mushroom stipe is aligned away from the normal for a specific time interval (an interval known as the presentation time, which varies from one species to another), the hyphae on the lower surface of an apical zone on the stipe begin to elongate more rapidly than those of the upper surface, leading to bending of the stem and ultimately the correction of the mushrooms alignment. In the last decade, it has been discovered that this response actually has two parts involving two apical zones. The initial bending response, which originates at the base of the stipe, often overcompensates and by itself would tend to leave mushrooms tilted in a direction opposite to the initial misalignment. There is therefore a curvature compensation growth response which takes place in the upper part of the stipe - this represents a fine adjustment and serves to better align the stipe with the normal. The positively gravitropic response of the hymenophoral elements represent a further layer of fine adjustment. Other tropic responses may modify a mushrooms gravitropic growth. Most mushrooms have some kind of negative thigmotropic response, so that if a mushroom encounters an object as it is growing, responses such as stipe bending, bifurcation, or change in the pattern of pileus growth will cause the mushroom to grow out of the way of the object. (This in contrast to fungi such as Hydnellum that are characterized by indeterminate growth and simply envelop foreign objects within the fruiting body.) Many lignicolous and coprophilous species show strong positive phototropism throughout their fruiting cycle, a response that overrides the gravitropic response. (In one experiment, a Polyporus brumalis basidiocarp was illuminated from below - the stipe curved 180°, resulting in an upsidePage 2 Mycena News, March, 2003 Mycomorphology Continued from page 1 down pileus with tubes growing upward.) How can we be sure that a mushrooms main tropic responses are in fact responses to gravity? The most obvious way is to deprive them of gravity by placing them in the microgravity conditions of spaceflight. Such an experiment was, in fact, carried out in 1993 when cultures of Flammulina velutipes were sent into orbit on the joint Space Shuttle Columbia/Spacelab D-2 mission. These cultures produced fruiting bodies with a random orientation, while similar control cultures on Earth produced regular verticallyaligned fruiting bodies. Since it is clear that mushrooms respond to gravity, how then do they sense it? How do they know up from down? At present, this is largely unknown, though it has been surmised from what is known about the gravity-sensing mechanisms of animals and plants that it probably involves some kind of statolith. A statolith is an organ or cellular organelle that is more dense than its surrounding matrix and hence tends to exert pressure along a gravitational vector. This pressure is sensed by a network of fibers, hairs, cytoskeletal elements, or the like, which transmit this impulse, and ultimately trigger an ionic, hormonal, or nervous signal. Our bodies have a complex system of statoliths in our inner ears. This vestibular system consists of small calcium carbonate-filled sacs known as otoliths that are surrounded by a network of nerves and fibers known as the maculae. Pressure on the macula generates nerve impulses, and these signals, when processed by the brain, give us our sense of balance. Vertical and horizontal movements are detected by separate otoliths, known as the saccule and the utricle, respectively. (There are also non-otolithic vestibular organs which contribute to the sensation of movement.) Plant root cells contain starch granules that act as statoliths - the pressure gradient of these granules upon the plasma membrane is thought to in some way trigger a reaction which leads to the differential distribution of auxin in the root, which stimulates the upper surface to elongate more rapidly, bending the root downward.
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Re: Ron K For President [Re: cronicr]
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Re: Ron K For President [Re: cronicr]
#23550037 - 08/17/16 01:49 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I enjoyed reading that. What is the source?
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Re: Ron K For President [Re: cronicr]
#23550045 - 08/17/16 01:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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So where has he gone?
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who? op is on right now
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Re: Ron K For President [Re: cronicr]
#23550141 - 08/17/16 02:35 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hello, Ron K what fruit trees do you grow? I like fruit trees too.
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paracelsusgold

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i see you have found that article i wrote years ago in new york.
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paracelsusgold

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i am a serious student of Paramahansa Yogananda and i lead a relatively peaceful life with my wife and 6 dogs and 3 cats and i do not have anything to hide from and am not doing anything illegal whatsoever you see?
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Ron, what's the few things you feel like are important knowledge and are most beneficial to cultivation of mushrooms
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paracelsusgold

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thanks and i agree [Re: morty422]
#23550176 - 08/17/16 02:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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i have already edited my personal thanks for the advice
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Mad Season said: 1) it doesn't 2) They only grow to the light if they're getting insufficient amounts of it.
Usually I would respect most answers given by you Mad. However, without more information what you said makes little to no sense. No offence, I'm just having a hard time grasping it.
Light 100% triggers pinning. It's a common observation made by a lot of people.
I had gone without using lights for the first half of my current study. I introduced the lights two days ago, and since introducing them fruit bodies are popping up more rapidly and all of the fruit bodies have began to appear way healthier. (Thicker, taller.)
Last night something unexpected happened to me. I left one light on instead of the 2. If the "U" is the tub and the "l" is the lights this is my set up from a birds eye view.
(lUl)
The light on the left was left off and the light on the right was left on. Over the 12 hour cycle, every fruit in the tub decided to lay down flat against the substrate and grow towards the light on the right side of the tub. This got me real interested in gathering as much information about lighting as possible.
What does light do for the Mushroom and why don't we have a common understanding of this?
I learned about how light effects the growth of plants in 2nd grade, I feel like this is something that should have been taught in the same year.
Assuming nobody beats me to the discovery, I'm going to make it my mission to understand and explain how light really effect the growth.
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paracelsusgold said: i see you have found that article i wrote years ago in new york.
Indeed, it was a pleasure to read. As was your first post. It's incredible that you were able to acquire the skills needed to cultivate mushrooms through postal correspondence, especially back then.
If you ran into something you weren't sure of or that was not explained well enough, how did you proceed? Place everything on hold until you heard back from Steve or try to work it out on your own until you heard back?
Thank you for joining us!
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cleanliness, attention to detail, proper facilities to name a few [Re: bodhisatta]
#23550203 - 08/17/16 03:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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let me meditate on this more
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Re: cleanliness, attention to detail, proper facilities to name a few [Re: paracelsusgold]
#23550208 - 08/17/16 03:08 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey ron! It's easier to understand who you are replying to if you hit the "quote" button at the top right of the users post. It is right next to the button that says "reply"
It will quote their text and you can reply to it that way they know you are referring to their post!
Awesome to have you in the community! What is your library listed as on ebay?
Although you cant link it here i'd still like to check it out if i can!
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Re: cleanliness, attention to detail, proper facilities to name a few [Re: paracelsusgold]
#23550224 - 08/17/16 03:13 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Welcome to the shroomery Ron K! Can't wait to hear some interesting stories of your foray into mycological research and cultivation!
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Re: cleanliness, attention to detail, proper facilities to name a few [Re: lukehighwalker710]
#23550250 - 08/17/16 03:22 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hi Ron, good luck. Yogonanda is one awesome person.
There are definitely lots of young people still at it, although I've already got some teachers, I really appreciate your offering to everyone.
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Quote:
Maximillion said:
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Mad Season said: 1) it doesn't 2) They only grow to the light if they're getting insufficient amounts of it.
Usually I would respect most answers given by you Mad. However, without more information what you said makes little to no sense. No offence, I'm just having a hard time grasping it.
Light 100% triggers pinning. It's a common observation made by a lot of people.
I had gone without using lights for the first half of my current study. I introduced the lights two days ago, and since introducing them fruit bodies are popping up more rapidly and all of the fruit bodies have began to appear way healthier. (Thicker, taller.)
Last night something unexpected happened to me. I left one light on instead of the 2. If the "U" is the tub and the "l" is the lights this is my set up from a birds eye view.
(lUl)
The light on the left was left off and the light on the right was left on. Over the 12 hour cycle, every fruit in the tub decided to lay down flat against the substrate and grow towards the light on the right side of the tub. This got me real interested in gathering as much information about lighting as possible.
What does light do for the Mushroom and why don't we have a common understanding of this?
I learned about how light effects the growth of plants in 2nd grade, I feel like this is something that should have been taught in the same year.
Assuming nobody beats me to the discovery, I'm going to make it my mission to understand and explain how light really effect the growth.
light is a secondary trigger, they will pin in darkness and we do have an understanding...try some research on it
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Maximillion said:
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Mad Season said: 1) it doesn't 2) They only grow to the light if they're getting insufficient amounts of it.
Usually I would respect most answers given by you Mad. However, without more information what you said makes little to no sense. No offence, I'm just having a hard time grasping it.
Light 100% triggers pinning. It's a common observation made by a lot of people.
I had gone without using lights for the first half of my current study. I introduced the lights two days ago, and since introducing them fruit bodies are popping up more rapidly and all of the fruit bodies have began to appear way healthier. (Thicker, taller.)
See the problem with randomly introducing something and seeing results, is we don't know if those results would have happened regardless.
Light I can agree makes them appear healthier and thicker, but it isn't a pinning trigger to me. A pinning trigger is something that literally triggers pinning lol.

This tray was forgotten in a dark closet with no fae. It still pinned. The trigger was full colonization, which is IMO what makes cubes pin. Light I can agree makes things much more healthy, but is it the reason it pins? I've never once been like yes that pinned because of the light! I almost always say it pinned because it's contaminated, or it pinned because it was ready to pin.
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Last night something unexpected happened to me. I left one light on instead of the 2. If the "U" is the tub and the "l" is the lights this is my set up from a birds eye view.
(lUl)
The light on the left was left off and the light on the right was left on. Over the 12 hour cycle, every fruit in the tub decided to lay down flat against the substrate and grow towards the light on the right side of the tub. This got me real interested in gathering as much information about lighting as possible.
What does light do for the Mushroom and why don't we have a common understanding of this?
I learned about how light effects the growth of plants in 2nd grade, I feel like this is something that should have been taught in the same year.
Assuming nobody beats me to the discovery, I'm going to make it my mission to understand and explain how light really effect the growth.
Again that is because of a lack of light. No light can match the power of the sun IMO.
I mean I only grow with an East facing window. During the winter when there's shitty daylight hours (literally 8 hours of light a day), my fruits look like this

When it's summertime, and the tubs get 2-3 hours of direct sunlight, and 14+ hours of indirect sunlight due to long daylight hours they look like this:

These are all grows done in the same room with the same window. This is my experience on light, and IMO, when they grow towards it, it means they need more of it.
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Re: Ron K For President [Re: cronicr]
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Ron, if you get a chance sometime, I would love to hear about some the conversations you had corresponding with Terence Mckenna. He changed my life, not that I adhere to the whole thing, but he's just one of my favorite people.
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paracelsusgold said: i see you have found that article i wrote years ago in new york.
Indeed we have, sir. I hope that an individual with your life experience can be somewhat understanding of your initially skeptical reception. As others have already mentioned, this forum is an arena where we engage in discussion of the most efficient means to commit a known illegal activity (I did not intend to insinuate that you yourself were part of such a pursuit, so I apologize for any offense). When an unknown individual comes in making bold claims, it can be slightly unnerving.
If you are who you say you are, and I tend to believe you are (that would be an obscure individual to impersonate, although perhaps therein lies the genius of it), then you are owed a great deal of respect and acknowledgement as at least a pioneer of the current incarnation of this community. You sought to share your personal experiences, while at a minimum being associated with individuals known for their dalliances with psychedelics, in a time when doing so from your mom’s basement while maintaining relative anonymity was not possible (apart from the use of a pseudonym). You also did so in a time of Reagan, Just Say No, and increased incarceration rates for drug law offenses. For these few reasons, we should applaud you.
I hope you hang around so that we may learn from your experience. I also think you will be somewhat awed by the current methods and results of the current pioneers.
Cheers to you, Ron K.!
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: paracelsusgold]
#23550403 - 08/17/16 04:16 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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paracelsusgold said: dear folks you do not need nor is it desirable to utlilize tinfoil not only because of what it is made of but also it is just not necessary. sincerely ron k.
You remind me of the High Septon on Game of Thrones.....
Lies! Lies I say!
Also....care to elaborate?
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: Kenetic]
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i can't remember the last time i used foil lol
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Re: cleanliness, attention to detail, proper facilities to name a few [Re: natedawgnow]
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i considered myself to be a political prisoner thenQuote:
natedawgnow said: Hey ron! It's easier to understand who you are replying to if you hit the "quote" button at the top right of the users post. It is right next to the button that says "reply"
It will quote their text and you can reply to it that way they know you are referring to their post!
Awesome to have you in the community! What is your library listed as on ebay?
Although you cant link it here i'd still like to check it out if i can!
nate thanks for the info. i do have some rather expensive ethnobotanical stuff on ebay. i can tell you what they are if you are interested. books by wasson for one.
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: cronicr]
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Its cause yer slacking on the print lotto
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: cronicr]
#23550456 - 08/17/16 04:30 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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cronicr said: i can't remember the last time i used foil lol
care to elaborate?
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: Pastywhyte]
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: Kenetic]
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Use synthetic filter disks on your jar lids. No foil needed to PC
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include/more [Re: Kenetic]
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paracelsusgold said: dear folks you do not need nor is it desirable to utlilize tinfoil not only because of what it is made of but also it is just not necessary. sincerely ron k.
You remind me of the High Septon on Game of Thrones.....
Lies! Lies I say!
Also....care to elaborate?
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paracelsusgold said: dear folks you do not need nor is it desirable to utlilize tinfoil not only because of what it is made of but also it is just not necessary. sincerely ron k.
You remind me of the High Septon on Game of Thrones.....
Lies! Lies I say!
Also....care to elaborate?
dear kinetic: the best type of a top for the mason jar is a special filter that goes into the metal lid and allows the mycelium to breathe. if the proper formula is used for water and grain then there is no need to have tinfoil to preserve moisture. also tinfoil is made from aluminum and you would not want to use any aluminum at all as it is toxic and poisonous and it should not be used for anything at all to include pans etc.
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: Kenetic]
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cronicr said: i can't remember the last time i used foil lol
care to elaborate?
you only need ot fpor cakes and cellulose sfd's, synthetic sfds are fine and poly and tyvek are as well they come out of the pc dry as a bone
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include/more [Re: paracelsusgold]
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I'm not trying to be rude at all but that's a terrible answer. I want to know "why", not "just because".
what is a "special filter"? I use synthetic filter discs.
I highly doubt aluminum foil is contaminating my jars through the sealed lid and filter.
I also highly doubt that you are who you say you are. All of the info in your profile is publicly available, and you don't seem like an experienced and knowledgeable cultivator.
Feel free to prove me wrong.
Edit: You also think we use tin foil to preserve moisture. ???
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paracelsusgold said: i see you have found that article i wrote years ago in new york.
Indeed we have, sir. I hope that an individual with your life experience can be somewhat understanding of your initially skeptical reception. As others have already mentioned, this forum is an arena where we engage in discussion of the most efficient means to commit a known illegal activity (I did not intend to insinuate that you yourself were part of such a pursuit, so I apologize for any offense). When an unknown individual comes in making bold claims, it can be slightly unnerving.
If you are who you say you are, and I tend to believe you are (that would be an obscure individual to impersonate, although perhaps therein lies the genius of it), then you are owed a great deal of respect and acknowledgement as at least a pioneer of the current incarnation of this community. You sought to share your personal experiences, while at a minimum being associated with individuals known for their dalliances with psychedelics, in a time when doing so from your mom’s basement while maintaining relative anonymity was not possible (apart from the use of a pseudonym). You also did so in a time of Reagan, Just Say No, and increased incarceration rates for drug law offenses. For these few reasons, we should applaud you.
I hope you hang around so that we may learn from your experience. I also think you will be somewhat awed by the current methods and results of the current pioneers.
Cheers to you, Ron K.!
dear psil thanks very much for your kindness. what is this about my mom's basement all about? the problem i was faced with is that nelson rockefeller had many very strict laws installed when he was governor of new york regarding drugs and i was charged with an A felony. the judge also did not like me as my hair is long and he was making a name for himself. you are right that i am not that familiar with the newer techniques but i got along fine with the old ones. steve peele at that time was the only person in this country to be able to legally grow cubensis. we used to communicate by written letter and i still have all his correspondences which were quite a few over a period of four years. stay in touch.
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include/more [Re: Kenetic]
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kenetic said: I'm not trying to be rude at all but that's a terrible answer. I want to know "why", not "just because".
what is a "special filter"? I use synthetic filter discs.
I highly doubt aluminum foil is contaminating my jars through the sealed lid and filter.
I also highly doubt that you are who you say you are. All of the info in your profile is publicly available, and you don't seem like an experienced and knowledgeable cultivator.
Feel free to prove me wrong.
i'm about to feel free to just give ya the boot.
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dear folks i have been growing fruit trees for many years not only at my 32 acre homestead in nw arkansas but also here in georgia. all kinds. i grow figs peaches pears pomegranates persimmons plums.
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include/more [Re: cronicr]
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kenetic said: I'm not trying to be rude at all but that's a terrible answer. I want to know "why", not "just because".
what is a "special filter"? I use synthetic filter discs.
I highly doubt aluminum foil is contaminating my jars through the sealed lid and filter.
I also highly doubt that you are who you say you are. All of the info in your profile is publicly available, and you don't seem like an experienced and knowledgeable cultivator.
Feel free to prove me wrong.
i'm about to feel free to just give ya the boot.
dear folks do what you you feel comfortable with. the filters are made of rather thicker type of paper and they used to be readily available and used by most i believe. if you want to use tinfoil and you think it is a good idea then be my guest. also why would i lie about anything that i would post here and what benefit could that do for me? peace and light to you.
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include/more [Re: paracelsusgold]
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They still are in use, that guy was being rude to you and cronicr was telling him to watch it. Keep it up man! Love to hear what you have to say, and we don't use tinfoil usually on grain jars with the filters like you are saying, or at least dont have to use them.
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paracelsusgold said: i see you have found that article i wrote years ago in new york.
Indeed, it was a pleasure to read. As was your first post. It's incredible that you were able to acquire the skills needed to cultivate mushrooms through postal correspondence, especially back then.
If you ran into something you weren't sure of or that was not explained well enough, how did you proceed? Place everything on hold until you heard back from Steve or try to work it out on your own until you heard back?
Thank you for joining us!
thanks alot and i was constantly faced with challenges as i was making compost and i had very large specialized compost piles and i had outdoor and indoor facilities. i was experimenting alot with straw only compost also. i was also experimenting with the rarest strains. i had a larger ceramic tile grow room with separate boxes.
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include/more [Re: Kenetic]
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kenetic said: Edit: You also think we use tin foil to preserve moisture. ???
Isn't it? In the PC, if you are using a filter type that requires foil (like cellulose filters, or BRF cakes with a dry verm layer), the foil is in place to keep the water/condensation out. So yea, foil preserves the correct moisture content.
Ron K, I look forward to hearing your experiences in mushroom cult. Don't let some of the people around here scare you away from sharing on this forum. Good vibes
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Re: Ron K For President [Re: cronicr]
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cronicr said: are entirely dependent upon a mushrooms being oriented perfectly upright, with the gills or other hymenophoral elements being completely parallel to the vector of Earths gravity. Since spores fall along a gravitational vector, any deviation of hymenophore alignment from the normal will lead to an increased number of spores becoming entrapped within the gills. At the beginning of the last century, the eminent fungal physiologist AHR Buller observed that when a basidiocarp of Agaricus campestris was tilted a mere 5° from the normal, spore dispersal was cut in half. Clearly, a mushroom must have a way of keeping its hymenophoral elements aligned to the normal. However, mushrooms are incapable of locomotion and cannot simply move their gills into the correct position. Mushrooms deal with this problem in a similar way as do plants, through mechanisms known as tropic responses. In a tropic response, the organism grows toward or away from a stimulus rather than moving toward or away from it. Tropic responses include phototropism (response to light), gravitropism (response to gravity), thigmotropism (response to touch or contact), hydrotropism (response to water), and many other such responses. Tropic responses can be either positive (growing toward the stimulus) or negative (growing away from it). At first, mushroom primordia grow perpendicularly away from the surface from which they arise, independently of the direction of light or gravity, a response that may be some kind of negative thigmotropism or negative hydrotropism Soon after emergence, gravitropic and (in some species) phototropic responses become active. The majority of mushroom species exhibit growth that is negatively gravitropic along the stipe and positively gravitropic in the hymenophore. If a mushroom is tilted from the normal, it will grow in such a way that a bend will develop in the stipe until the mushroom is again realigned. This bending is key to the gravitropic response - once the mushroom stipe is aligned away from the normal for a specific time interval (an interval known as the presentation time, which varies from one species to another), the hyphae on the lower surface of an apical zone on the stipe begin to elongate more rapidly than those of the upper surface, leading to bending of the stem and ultimately the correction of the mushrooms alignment. In the last decade, it has been discovered that this response actually has two parts involving two apical zones. The initial bending response, which originates at the base of the stipe, often overcompensates and by itself would tend to leave mushrooms tilted in a direction opposite to the initial misalignment. There is therefore a curvature compensation growth response which takes place in the upper part of the stipe - this represents a fine adjustment and serves to better align the stipe with the normal. The positively gravitropic response of the hymenophoral elements represent a further layer of fine adjustment. Other tropic responses may modify a mushrooms gravitropic growth. Most mushrooms have some kind of negative thigmotropic response, so that if a mushroom encounters an object as it is growing, responses such as stipe bending, bifurcation, or change in the pattern of pileus growth will cause the mushroom to grow out of the way of the object. (This in contrast to fungi such as Hydnellum that are characterized by indeterminate growth and simply envelop foreign objects within the fruiting body.) Many lignicolous and coprophilous species show strong positive phototropism throughout their fruiting cycle, a response that overrides the gravitropic response. (In one experiment, a Polyporus brumalis basidiocarp was illuminated from below - the stipe curved 180°, resulting in an upsidePage 2 Mycena News, March, 2003 Mycomorphology Continued from page 1 down pileus with tubes growing upward.) How can we be sure that a mushrooms main tropic responses are in fact responses to gravity? The most obvious way is to deprive them of gravity by placing them in the microgravity conditions of spaceflight. Such an experiment was, in fact, carried out in 1993 when cultures of Flammulina velutipes were sent into orbit on the joint Space Shuttle Columbia/Spacelab D-2 mission. These cultures produced fruiting bodies with a random orientation, while similar control cultures on Earth produced regular verticallyaligned fruiting bodies. Since it is clear that mushrooms respond to gravity, how then do they sense it? How do they know up from down? At present, this is largely unknown, though it has been surmised from what is known about the gravity-sensing mechanisms of animals and plants that it probably involves some kind of statolith. A statolith is an organ or cellular organelle that is more dense than its surrounding matrix and hence tends to exert pressure along a gravitational vector. This pressure is sensed by a network of fibers, hairs, cytoskeletal elements, or the like, which transmit this impulse, and ultimately trigger an ionic, hormonal, or nervous signal. Our bodies have a complex system of statoliths in our inner ears. This vestibular system consists of small calcium carbonate-filled sacs known as otoliths that are surrounded by a network of nerves and fibers known as the maculae. Pressure on the macula generates nerve impulses, and these signals, when processed by the brain, give us our sense of balance. Vertical and horizontal movements are detected by separate otoliths, known as the saccule and the utricle, respectively. (There are also non-otolithic vestibular organs which contribute to the sensation of movement.) Plant root cells contain starch granules that act as statoliths - the pressure gradient of these granules upon the plasma membrane is thought to in some way trigger a reaction which leads to the differential distribution of auxin in the root, which stimulates the upper surface to elongate more rapidly, bending the root downward.
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what is this about my mom's basement all about?
Ha! I was not referring to you, but rather a small minority of the members of this forum. They're usually the most vociferous and nasty as well. One of the things you'll have to figure out is how these dang kids talk these days.
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...i got along fine with the old ones
I have no doubt you did, but as an extremely new member to this community myself, I understand that cultivation knowledge and techniques evolve quite rapidly. Things have changed quite a bit just within the last 15 years. The pace of change can be somewhat detrimental as well, as outdated knowledge is continuously dredged up and proliferated by noobs like myself. Ironically, I think you would benefit from checking out The Noob Forum https://www.shroomery.org/forums/postlist.php/Board/235 and particularly this thread https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21448273 .
You should also check out http://www.mushroomvideos.com/BRF-Pf-Tek. RogerRabbit is the man most responsible for the vast majority of the latest mush cult knowledge found throughout the site.
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kenetic said: I'm not trying to be rude at all but that's a terrible answer. I want to know "why", not "just because".
what is a "special filter"? I use synthetic filter discs.
I highly doubt aluminum foil is contaminating my jars through the sealed lid and filter.
I also highly doubt that you are who you say you are. All of the info in your profile is publicly available, and you don't seem like an experienced and knowledgeable cultivator.
Feel free to prove me wrong.
Edit: You also think we use tin foil to preserve moisture. ???

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kenetic said: I'm not trying to be rude at all but that's a terrible answer. I want to know "why", not "just because".
what is a "special filter"? I use synthetic filter discs.
I highly doubt aluminum foil is contaminating my jars through the sealed lid and filter.
I also highly doubt that you are who you say you are. All of the info in your profile is publicly available, and you don't seem like an experienced and knowledgeable cultivator.
Feel free to prove me wrong.
i'm about to feel free to just give ya the boot.

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paracelsusgold said: i see you have found that article i wrote years ago in new york.
Indeed, it was a pleasure to read. As was your first post. It's incredible that you were able to acquire the skills needed to cultivate mushrooms through postal correspondence, especially back then.
If you ran into something you weren't sure of or that was not explained well enough, how did you proceed? Place everything on hold until you heard back from Steve or try to work it out on your own until you heard back?
Thank you for joining us!
thanks alot and i was constantly faced with challenges as i was making compost and i had very large specialized compost piles and i had outdoor and indoor facilities. i was experimenting alot with straw only compost also. i was also experimenting with the rarest strains. i had a larger ceramic tile grow room with separate boxes.
Thank you for the reply. What were some of your favorite rare strains and what about them makes them special to you? Could you please outline your process for producing cubensis? It's wonderful hearing about how people learned and what methods were used before the internet really took off.
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cronicr said: are entirely dependent upon a mushrooms being oriented perfectly upright, with the gills or other hymenophoral elements being completely parallel to the vector of Earths gravity. Since spores fall along a gravitational vector, any deviation of hymenophore alignment from the normal will lead to an increased number of spores becoming entrapped within the gills. At the beginning of the last century, the eminent fungal physiologist AHR Buller observed that when a basidiocarp of Agaricus campestris was tilted a mere 5° from the normal, spore dispersal was cut in half. Clearly, a mushroom must have a way of keeping its hymenophoral elements aligned to the normal. However, mushrooms are incapable of locomotion and cannot simply move their gills into the correct position. Mushrooms deal with this problem in a similar way as do plants, through mechanisms known as tropic responses. In a tropic response, the organism grows toward or away from a stimulus rather than moving toward or away from it. Tropic responses include phototropism (response to light), gravitropism (response to gravity), thigmotropism (response to touch or contact), hydrotropism (response to water), and many other such responses. Tropic responses can be either positive (growing toward the stimulus) or negative (growing away from it). At first, mushroom primordia grow perpendicularly away from the surface from which they arise, independently of the direction of light or gravity, a response that may be some kind of negative thigmotropism or negative hydrotropism Soon after emergence, gravitropic and (in some species) phototropic responses become active. The majority of mushroom species exhibit growth that is negatively gravitropic along the stipe and positively gravitropic in the hymenophore. If a mushroom is tilted from the normal, it will grow in such a way that a bend will develop in the stipe until the mushroom is again realigned. This bending is key to the gravitropic response - once the mushroom stipe is aligned away from the normal for a specific time interval (an interval known as the presentation time, which varies from one species to another), the hyphae on the lower surface of an apical zone on the stipe begin to elongate more rapidly than those of the upper surface, leading to bending of the stem and ultimately the correction of the mushrooms alignment. In the last decade, it has been discovered that this response actually has two parts involving two apical zones. The initial bending response, which originates at the base of the stipe, often overcompensates and by itself would tend to leave mushrooms tilted in a direction opposite to the initial misalignment. There is therefore a curvature compensation growth response which takes place in the upper part of the stipe - this represents a fine adjustment and serves to better align the stipe with the normal. The positively gravitropic response of the hymenophoral elements represent a further layer of fine adjustment. Other tropic responses may modify a mushrooms gravitropic growth. Most mushrooms have some kind of negative thigmotropic response, so that if a mushroom encounters an object as it is growing, responses such as stipe bending, bifurcation, or change in the pattern of pileus growth will cause the mushroom to grow out of the way of the object. (This in contrast to fungi such as Hydnellum that are characterized by indeterminate growth and simply envelop foreign objects within the fruiting body.) Many lignicolous and coprophilous species show strong positive phototropism throughout their fruiting cycle, a response that overrides the gravitropic response. (In one experiment, a Polyporus brumalis basidiocarp was illuminated from below - the stipe curved 180°, resulting in an upsidePage 2 Mycena News, March, 2003 Mycomorphology Continued from page 1 down pileus with tubes growing upward.) How can we be sure that a mushrooms main tropic responses are in fact responses to gravity? The most obvious way is to deprive them of gravity by placing them in the microgravity conditions of spaceflight. Such an experiment was, in fact, carried out in 1993 when cultures of Flammulina velutipes were sent into orbit on the joint Space Shuttle Columbia/Spacelab D-2 mission. These cultures produced fruiting bodies with a random orientation, while similar control cultures on Earth produced regular verticallyaligned fruiting bodies. Since it is clear that mushrooms respond to gravity, how then do they sense it? How do they know up from down? At present, this is largely unknown, though it has been surmised from what is known about the gravity-sensing mechanisms of animals and plants that it probably involves some kind of statolith. A statolith is an organ or cellular organelle that is more dense than its surrounding matrix and hence tends to exert pressure along a gravitational vector. This pressure is sensed by a network of fibers, hairs, cytoskeletal elements, or the like, which transmit this impulse, and ultimately trigger an ionic, hormonal, or nervous signal. Our bodies have a complex system of statoliths in our inner ears. This vestibular system consists of small calcium carbonate-filled sacs known as otoliths that are surrounded by a network of nerves and fibers known as the maculae. Pressure on the macula generates nerve impulses, and these signals, when processed by the brain, give us our sense of balance. Vertical and horizontal movements are detected by separate otoliths, known as the saccule and the utricle, respectively. (There are also non-otolithic vestibular organs which contribute to the sensation of movement.) Plant root cells contain starch granules that act as statoliths - the pressure gradient of these granules upon the plasma membrane is thought to in some way trigger a reaction which leads to the differential distribution of auxin in the root, which stimulates the upper surface to elongate more rapidly, bending the root downward.
dear folks give me some time to digest this ok
Take all the time you need, that is one massive wall of text!
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what is this about my mom's basement all about?
Ha! I was not referring to you, but rather a small minority of the members of this forum. They're usually the most vociferous and nasty as well. One of the things you'll have to figure out is how these dang kids talk these days.
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paracelsusgold said:
...i got along fine with the old ones
I have no doubt you did, but as an extremely new member to this community myself, I understand that cultivation knowledge and techniques evolve quite rapidly. Things have changed quite a bit just within the last 15 years. The pace of change can be somewhat detrimental as well, as outdated knowledge is continuously dredged up and proliferated by noobs like myself. Ironically, I think you would benefit from checking out The Noob Forum https://www.shroomery.org/forums/postlist.php/Board/235 and particularly this thread https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21448273 .
You should also check out http://www.mushroomvideos.com/BRF-Pf-Tek. RogerRabbit is the man most responsible for the vast majority of the latest mush cult knowledge found throughout the site.
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include/more [Re: cronicr]
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cronicr said: i'm about to feel free to just give ya the boot.
For what? I'm not being rude. He said he wanted to help us and I just wanted a clearer answer other than the one he gave me.
You would all do the same to me, in a much ruder fashion (as you already have numerous times), and not get banned.
In any case,I'll stay away from this thread. And welcome to the shroomery O.P.
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include/more [Re: Kenetic]
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include/more [Re: Kenetic]
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cronicr said: i'm about to feel free to just give ya the boot.
For what? I'm not being rude. He said he wanted to help us and I just wanted a clearer answer other than the one he gave me.
You would all do the same to me, in a much ruder fashion (as you already have numerous times), and not get banned.
In any case,I'll stay away from this thread. And welcome to the shroomery O.P.
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: Psilanthropist]
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Psilanthropist said: Ron K is OG as fuk. According to his first post he did a year hard time for possession. So OG, in fact, he posts his street address in his profile for his MSN address. Anonymity is for pussies in the eyes of Ron K.
Ron K once scissor kicked Angela Lansbury!
You get to that age you don't give a shit and can only wonder how sad and boring some poor asshole's life if the most interest thing in their life is you.
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: KenInVic]
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Hey ron i messaged you, let's make something happen 
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theGODSmademedoit

Registered: 03/04/16
Posts: 516
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: filthyknees]
#23550779 - 08/17/16 06:26 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Edit? My 1st amendment
Edited by theGODSmademedoit (08/17/16 07:13 PM)
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bodhisatta 
Smurf real estate agent


Registered: 04/30/13
Posts: 61,889
Loc: Milky way
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: theGODSmademedoit]
#23550784 - 08/17/16 06:29 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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yea no one notices that people like workman or RR posted here and people knew exactly who they were and where they lived for instance. This part of the forum like I said back on the first page is just full of no thanks for someone as sincere as OP
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paracelsusgold

Registered: 08/15/16
Posts: 173
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: theGODSmademedoit]
#23550832 - 08/17/16 06:45 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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theGODSmademedoit said: Damn you guys just got that poor old man shook now hes outie 5000.lmao
hey it will take more than that to shake me up ron k
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paracelsusgold

Registered: 08/15/16
Posts: 173
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: bodhisatta]
#23550834 - 08/17/16 06:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Trusted Cultivator said: yea no one notices that people like workman or RR posted here and people knew exactly who they were and where they lived for instance. This part of the forum like I said back on the first page is just full of no thanks for someone as sincere as OP
who is rr may i please ask?
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paracelsusgold

Registered: 08/15/16
Posts: 173
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: theGODSmademedoit]
#23550844 - 08/17/16 06:50 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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theGODSmademedoit said: Damn you guys just got that poor old man shook now hes outie 5000.lmao
hey i am not an old man and i work very hard all day in the hot sun and i weigh 107 pounds and i work alone doing the hardest work one can do in construction, mechanical, gardening, etc etc. and i do not get shook up that easily since i am a serious student of PARAMAHANSA YOGANANDA you see.
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paracelsusgold

Registered: 08/15/16
Posts: 173
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include/more [Re: h0ldthedoor]
#23550850 - 08/17/16 06:52 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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cronicr said: i'm about to feel free to just give ya the boot.
For what? I'm not being rude. He said he wanted to help us and I just wanted a clearer answer other than the one he gave me.
You would all do the same to me, in a much ruder fashion (as you already have numerous times), and not get banned.
In any case,I'll stay away from this thread. And welcome to the shroomery O.P.

hey no problema and everything is cool
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cronicr



Registered: 08/07/11
Posts: 61,436
Loc: Van Isle
Last seen: 2 years, 9 days
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: paracelsusgold]
#23550871 - 08/17/16 06:56 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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kenetic said:
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cronicr said: i'm about to feel free to just give ya the boot.
For what? I'm not being rude. He said he wanted to help us and I just wanted a clearer answer other than the one he gave me.
You would all do the same to me, in a much ruder fashion (as you already have numerous times), and not get banned.
In any case,I'll stay away from this thread. And welcome to the shroomery O.P.
I wasn't gonna ban ya just remove you from the thread for pushing it.we have a great person here who does not need to prove anything or be called out.Quote:
paracelsusgold said:
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Trusted Cultivator said: yea no one notices that people like workman or RR posted here and people knew exactly who they were and where they lived for instance. This part of the forum like I said back on the first page is just full of no thanks for someone as sincere as OP
who is rr may i please ask?
Marc Keith he did a lot for this hobby of ours.
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  It doesn't matter what i think of you...all that matters is clean spawn I'm tired do me a favor
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h0ldthedoor
HODOR



Registered: 06/25/16
Posts: 510
Loc: North of The Wall
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: cronicr]
#23550882 - 08/17/16 06:59 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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cronicr said:
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paracelsusgold said:
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Trusted Cultivator said: yea no one notices that people like workman or RR posted here and people knew exactly who they were and where they lived for instance. This part of the forum like I said back on the first page is just full of no thanks for someone as sincere as OP
who is rr may i please ask?
Marc Keith he did a lot for this hobby of ours.
and RR are the initials of his username, RogerRabbit.
Edited by h0ldthedoor (08/17/16 07:03 PM)
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theGODSmademedoit

Registered: 03/04/16
Posts: 516
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: paracelsusgold]
#23550889 - 08/17/16 07:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Trusted Cultivator said: yea no one notices that people like workman or RR posted here and people knew exactly who they were and where they lived for instance. This part of the forum like I said back on the first page is just full of no thanks for someone as sincere as OP
That and hes violating his parole conditionsQuote:
paracelsusgold said:
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theGODSmademedoit said: Damn you guys just got that poor old man shook now hes outie 5000.lmao
hey it will take more than that to shake me up ron k
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paracelsusgold said:
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theGODSmademedoit said: Damn you guys just got that poor old man shook now hes outie 5000.lmao
hey i am not an old man and i work very hard all day in the hot sun and i weigh 107 pounds and i work alone doing the hardest work one can do in construction, mechanical, gardening, etc etc. and i do not get shook up that easily since i am a serious student of PARAMAHANSA YOGANANDA you see.
Yeah i just seen your deletion( not what we do by the way) then i saw the reason and the other post deleted so reason led me to believe you were out. Didnt really mean anything by it so no offense to you sir.
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cronicr



Registered: 08/07/11
Posts: 61,436
Loc: Van Isle
Last seen: 2 years, 9 days
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: theGODSmademedoit]
#23550894 - 08/17/16 07:03 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Please edit your op after going over the forum rules stickied by RR at the top n enforced by yours truly n then some.
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herrenvolk


Registered: 05/14/16
Posts: 222
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herrenvolk said: Hello, Ron K what fruit trees do you grow? I like fruit trees too.
dear folks i have been growing fruit trees for many years not only at my 32 acre homestead in nw arkansas but also here in georgia. all kinds. i grow figs peaches pears pomegranates persimmons plums.
Hey that's awesome. I grow a few of those too. My favorite are figs.
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wtfcrazymofo
foil hater



Registered: 07/26/15
Posts: 1,201
Loc: Colonial alley
Last seen: 10 hours, 21 minutes
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Re: experienced older cultivator gladly available for advice free of course to any sincere beginners *DELETED* *DELETED* [Re: paracelsusgold]
#23552700 - 08/18/16 09:17 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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paracelsusgold said: Post deleted by paracelsusgold<p>Reason for deletion: do not want to do this anymore
We love you Ron K.
-------------------- If you want to eat->https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/8553541 Bag sealers are to bulky (my hood isn't that big) https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28622922
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filthyknees
no coincidence


Registered: 03/08/13
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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: cronicr]
#23554104 - 08/18/16 05:21 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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cronicr said: Please edit your op after going over the forum rules stickied by RR at the top n enforced by yours truly n then some.
-------------------- But if you're in a hurry, and really got to go If you're in a hurry, might have to find out slow That it's one thing to try and another to fly You get there quicker just a step at a time It's one thing to bark, another to bite The show ain't over till you pack up at night
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