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Invisibleh0ldthedoor
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Re: Ron K For President [Re: paracelsusgold]
    #23550622 - 08/17/16 05:29 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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kenetic said:
I'm not trying to be rude at all but that's a terrible answer.  I want to know "why", not "just because". 

what is a "special filter"?  I use synthetic filter discs. 

I highly doubt aluminum foil is contaminating my jars through the sealed lid and filter.

I also highly doubt that you are who you say you are.  All of the info in your profile is publicly available, and you don't seem like an experienced and knowledgeable cultivator. 

Feel free to prove me wrong.

Edit:  You also think we use tin foil to preserve moisture.  ???






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cronicr said:
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kenetic said:
I'm not trying to be rude at all but that's a terrible answer.  I want to know "why", not "just because". 

what is a "special filter"?  I use synthetic filter discs. 

I highly doubt aluminum foil is contaminating my jars through the sealed lid and filter.

I also highly doubt that you are who you say you are.  All of the info in your profile is publicly available, and you don't seem like an experienced and knowledgeable cultivator. 

Feel free to prove me wrong.



i'm about to feel free to just give ya the boot.




:boot:
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paracelsusgold said:
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h0ldthedoor said:
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paracelsusgold said:
i see you have found that article i wrote years ago in new york.




Indeed, it was a pleasure to read. As was your first post. It's incredible that you were able to acquire the skills needed to cultivate mushrooms through postal correspondence, especially back then.

If you ran into something you weren't sure of or that was not explained well enough, how did you proceed? Place everything on hold until you heard back from Steve or try to work it out on your own until you heard back?

Thank you for joining us!



thanks alot and i was constantly faced with challenges as i was making compost and i had very large specialized compost piles and i had outdoor and indoor facilities. i was experimenting alot with straw only compost also. i was also experimenting with the rarest strains. i had a larger ceramic tile grow room with separate boxes.




Thank you for the reply. What were some of your favorite rare strains and what about them makes them special to you? Could you please outline your process for producing cubensis? It's wonderful hearing about how people learned and what methods were used before the internet really took off.

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are entirely
dependent upon a mushroom’s being oriented
perfectly upright, with the gills or
other hymenophoral elements being completely
parallel to the vector of Earth’s gravity.
Since spores fall along a gravitational
vector, any deviation of hymenophore
alignment from the normal will lead to an
increased number of spores becoming
entrapped within the gills. At the beginning
of the last century, the eminent fungal physiologist
AHR Buller observed that when a
basidiocarp of Agaricus campestris was tilted a
mere 5° from the normal, spore dispersal
was cut in half.
Clearly, a mushroom must have a way of
keeping its hymenophoral elements aligned
to the normal. However, mushrooms are
incapable of locomotion and cannot simply
move their gills into the correct position.
Mushrooms deal with this problem in a similar way as do plants, through mechanisms
known as tropic responses. In a tropic response, the organism grows
toward or away from a stimulus rather than moving toward or away from it.
Tropic responses include phototropism (response to light), gravitropism
(response to gravity), thigmotropism (response to touch or contact), hydrotropism
(response to water), and many other such responses. Tropic responses can
be either positive (growing toward the stimulus) or negative (growing away from
it).
At first, mushroom primordia grow perpendicularly away from the surface from
which they arise, independently of the direction of light or gravity, a response
that may be some kind of negative thigmotropism or negative hydrotropism Soon after emergence, gravitropic
and (in some species) phototropic
responses become active.
The majority of mushroom species
exhibit growth that is negatively
gravitropic along the stipe and positively
gravitropic in the
hymenophore. If a mushroom is tilted
from the normal, it will grow in
such a way that a bend will develop
in the stipe until the mushroom is
again realigned. This bending is key
to the gravitropic response - once
the mushroom stipe is aligned away
from the normal for a specific time
interval (an interval known as the
presentation time, which varies
from one species to another), the
hyphae on the lower surface of an
apical zone on the stipe begin to
elongate more rapidly than those of
the upper surface, leading to bending
of the stem and ultimately the correction
of the mushroom’s alignment.
In the last decade, it has been discovered
that this response actually
has two parts involving two apical
zones. The initial bending response,
which originates at the base of the stipe, often overcompensates
and by itself would tend to leave mushrooms tilted in a
direction opposite to the initial misalignment. There is therefore
a curvature compensation growth response which takes
place in the upper part of the stipe - this represents a fine
adjustment and serves to better align the stipe with the normal.
The positively gravitropic response of the hymenophoral
elements represent a further layer of fine adjustment.
Other tropic responses may modify a mushroom’s gravitropic
growth. Most mushrooms have some kind of negative thigmotropic
response, so that if a mushroom encounters an
object as it is growing, responses such as stipe bending, bifurcation,
or change in the pattern of pileus growth will cause the
mushroom to grow out of the way of the object. (This in contrast
to fungi such as Hydnellum that are characterized by indeterminate
growth and simply envelop foreign objects within
the fruiting body.) Many lignicolous and coprophilous species
show strong positive phototropism throughout their fruiting
cycle, a response that overrides the gravitropic response. (In
one experiment, a Polyporus brumalis basidiocarp was illuminated
from below - the stipe curved 180°, resulting in an upsidePage
2 Mycena News, March, 2003
Mycomorphology
Continued from page 1
down pileus with tubes growing
upward.)
How can we be sure that a mushroom’s
main tropic responses are in
fact responses to gravity? The most
obvious way is to deprive them of
gravity by placing them in the microgravity
conditions of spaceflight.
Such an experiment was, in fact, carried
out in 1993 when cultures of
Flammulina velutipes were sent into
orbit on the joint Space Shuttle
Columbia/Spacelab D-2 mission.
These cultures produced fruiting
bodies with a random orientation,
while similar control cultures on
Earth produced regular verticallyaligned
fruiting bodies.
Since it is clear that mushrooms
respond to gravity, how then do they
sense it? How do they know up
from down? At present, this is
largely unknown, though it has been
surmised from what is known about
the gravity-sensing mechanisms of
animals and plants that it probably
involves some kind of statolith. A
statolith is an organ or cellular
organelle that is more dense than its
surrounding matrix and hence tends
to exert pressure along a gravitational
vector. This pressure is sensed by a
network of fibers, hairs, cytoskeletal
elements, or the like, which transmit this impulse, and ultimately
trigger an ionic, hormonal, or nervous signal.
Our bodies have a complex system of statoliths in our inner
ears. This vestibular system consists of small calcium carbonate-filled
sacs known as otoliths that are surrounded by a network
of nerves and fibers known as the maculae. Pressure on
the macula generates nerve impulses, and these signals, when
processed by the brain, give us our sense of balance. Vertical
and horizontal movements are detected by separate otoliths,
known as the saccule and the utricle, respectively. (There are
also non-otolithic vestibular organs which contribute to the
sensation of movement.)
Plant root cells contain starch granules that act as statoliths -
the pressure gradient of these granules upon the plasma membrane
is thought to in some way trigger a reaction which leads
to the differential distribution of auxin in the root, which stimulates
the upper surface to elongate more rapidly, bending the
root downward.



dear folks give me some time to digest this ok




Take all the time you need, that is one massive wall of text! :eek:


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Edited by h0ldthedoor (08/17/16 05:42 PM)


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Re: psychozoic press article [Re: Psilanthropist]
    #23550628 - 08/17/16 05:30 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I would be surprised if Ron didn't know of RR(marc)


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Re: psychozoic press article [Re: Psilanthropist]
    #23550629 - 08/17/16 05:31 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Psilanthropist said:
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paracelsusgold said:

what is this about my mom's basement all about?




Ha! I was not referring to you, but rather a small minority of the members of this forum. They're usually the most vociferous and nasty as well. One of the things you'll have to figure out is how these dang kids talk these days.

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...i got along fine with the old ones




I have no doubt you did, but as an extremely new member to this community myself, I understand that cultivation knowledge and techniques evolve quite rapidly. Things have changed quite a bit just within the last 15 years. The pace of change can be somewhat detrimental as well, as outdated knowledge is continuously dredged up and proliferated by noobs like myself. Ironically, I think you would benefit from checking out The Noob Forum https://www.shroomery.org/forums/postlist.php/Board/235 and particularly this thread https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21448273 .

You should also check out http://www.mushroomvideos.com/BRF-Pf-Tek. RogerRabbit is the man most responsible for the vast majority of the latest mush cult knowledge found throughout the site.



ok i will join up soon


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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include/more [Re: cronicr]
    #23550644 - 08/17/16 05:37 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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cronicr said:
i'm about to feel free to just give ya the boot.




For what?  I'm not being rude.  He said he wanted to help us and I just wanted a clearer answer other than the one he gave me.

You would all do the same to me, in a much ruder fashion (as you already have numerous times), and not get banned. 

In any case,I'll stay away from this thread.  And welcome to the shroomery O.P.


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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include/more [Re: Kenetic]
    #23550647 - 08/17/16 05:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Adults can be rude to children but children can't be rude to adults


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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include/more [Re: Kenetic]
    #23550651 - 08/17/16 05:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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kenetic said:
Quote:

cronicr said:
i'm about to feel free to just give ya the boot.




For what?  I'm not being rude.  He said he wanted to help us and I just wanted a clearer answer other than the one he gave me.

You would all do the same to me, in a much ruder fashion (as you already have numerous times), and not get banned. 

In any case,I'll stay away from this thread.  And welcome to the shroomery O.P.




:saywhat:


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Always keep your foes confused. If they are never certain who you are or what you want, they cannot know what you are like to do next. Sometimes the best way to baffle them is to make moves that have no purpose, or even seem to work against you.

– Petyr Baelish


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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: Psilanthropist]
    #23550655 - 08/17/16 05:43 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Psilanthropist said:
Ron K is OG as fuk. According to his first post he did a year hard time for possession. So OG, in fact, he posts his street address in his profile for his MSN address. Anonymity is for pussies in the eyes of Ron K.

Ron K once scissor kicked Angela Lansbury!




You get to that age you don't give a shit and can only wonder how sad and boring some poor asshole's life if the most interest thing in their life is you.


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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: KenInVic]
    #23550706 - 08/17/16 06:02 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Hey ron i messaged you, let's make something happen :smile:

:cheers:


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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: filthyknees]
    #23550779 - 08/17/16 06:26 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Edit? My 1st amendment


Edited by theGODSmademedoit (08/17/16 07:13 PM)


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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: theGODSmademedoit]
    #23550784 - 08/17/16 06:29 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

yea no one notices that people like workman or RR posted here and people knew exactly who they were and where they lived for instance. This part of the forum like I said back on the first page is just full of no thanks for someone as sincere as OP


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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: theGODSmademedoit]
    #23550832 - 08/17/16 06:45 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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theGODSmademedoit said:
Damn you guys just got that poor old man shook now hes outie 5000.lmao



hey it will take more than that to shake me up ron k


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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23550834 - 08/17/16 06:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Trusted Cultivator said:
yea no one notices that people like workman or RR posted here and people knew exactly who they were and where they lived for instance. This part of the forum like I said back on the first page is just full of no thanks for someone as sincere as OP



who is rr may i please ask?


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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: theGODSmademedoit]
    #23550844 - 08/17/16 06:50 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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theGODSmademedoit said:
Damn you guys just got that poor old man shook now hes outie 5000.lmao



hey i am not an old man and i work very hard all day in the hot sun and i weigh 107 pounds and i work alone doing the hardest work one can do in construction, mechanical, gardening, etc etc. and i do not get shook up that easily since i am a serious student of PARAMAHANSA YOGANANDA you see.


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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include/more [Re: h0ldthedoor]
    #23550850 - 08/17/16 06:52 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

h0ldthedoor said:
Quote:

kenetic said:
Quote:

cronicr said:
i'm about to feel free to just give ya the boot.




For what?  I'm not being rude.  He said he wanted to help us and I just wanted a clearer answer other than the one he gave me.

You would all do the same to me, in a much ruder fashion (as you already have numerous times), and not get banned. 

In any case,I'll stay away from this thread.  And welcome to the shroomery O.P.




:saywhat:


hey no problema and everything is cool


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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: paracelsusgold]
    #23550871 - 08/17/16 06:56 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

kenetic said:
Quote:

cronicr said:
i'm about to feel free to just give ya the boot.




For what?  I'm not being rude.  He said he wanted to help us and I just wanted a clearer answer other than the one he gave me.

You would all do the same to me, in a much ruder fashion (as you already have numerous times), and not get banned. 

In any case,I'll stay away from this thread.  And welcome to the shroomery O.P.



I wasn't gonna ban ya just remove you from the thread for pushing it.we have a great person here who does not need to prove anything or be called out.
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Quote:

Trusted Cultivator said:
yea no one notices that people like workman or RR posted here and people knew exactly who they were and where they lived for instance. This part of the forum like I said back on the first page is just full of no thanks for someone as sincere as OP



who is rr may i please ask?



Marc Keith he did a lot for this hobby of ours.


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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: cronicr]
    #23550882 - 08/17/16 06:59 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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cronicr said:
Quote:


paracelsusgold said:
Quote:

Trusted Cultivator said:
yea no one notices that people like workman or RR posted here and people knew exactly who they were and where they lived for instance. This part of the forum like I said back on the first page is just full of no thanks for someone as sincere as OP



who is rr may i please ask?



Marc Keith he did a lot for this hobby of ours.




and RR are the initials of his username, RogerRabbit. :thumbup:


Edited by h0ldthedoor (08/17/16 07:03 PM)


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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: paracelsusgold]
    #23550889 - 08/17/16 07:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Trusted Cultivator said:
yea no one notices that people like workman or RR posted here and people knew exactly who they were and where they lived for instance. This part of the forum like I said back on the first page is just full of no thanks for someone as sincere as OP



                                        That and hes violating his parole conditions
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theGODSmademedoit said:
Damn you guys just got that poor old man shook now hes outie 5000.lmao



hey it will take more than that to shake me up ron k



Quote:

paracelsusgold said:
Quote:

theGODSmademedoit said:
Damn you guys just got that poor old man shook now hes outie 5000.lmao



hey i am not an old man and i work very hard all day in the hot sun and i weigh 107 pounds and i work alone doing the hardest work one can do in construction, mechanical, gardening, etc etc. and i do not get shook up that easily since i am a serious student of PARAMAHANSA YOGANANDA you see.



Yeah i just seen your deletion( not what we do by the way) then i saw the reason and the other post deleted so reason led me to believe you were out. Didnt really mean anything by it so no offense to you sir.


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Re: tin foil not necessary or even desirable to include [Re: theGODSmademedoit]
    #23550894 - 08/17/16 07:03 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Please edit your op after going over the forum rules stickied by RR at the top n enforced by yours truly n then some.


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Re: Ron K For President [Re: paracelsusgold]
    #23551071 - 08/17/16 07:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Hello, Ron K what fruit trees do you grow? I like fruit trees too.



dear folks i have been growing fruit trees for many years not only at my 32 acre homestead in nw arkansas but also here in georgia. all kinds. i grow figs peaches pears pomegranates persimmons plums.




Hey that's awesome. I grow a few of those too. My favorite are figs.


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Re: experienced older cultivator gladly available for advice free of course to any sincere beginners *DELETED* *DELETED* [Re: paracelsusgold]
    #23552700 - 08/18/16 09:17 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Post deleted by paracelsusgold<p>Reason for deletion: do not want to do this anymore




We love you Ron K.


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