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ShroomieNewbie
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10 days no growth
#23548006 - 08/16/16 07:49 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey all, I've been lurking here for about 3 months now and finally decided to create an account to join in on festivities.
I don't feel a need to explain why I'm jumping straight to bulk other than a simple answer...why not?
Currently, I have 8 quart jars filled 3/4 with sterilized WBS. No cracked corn or sunflower seeds makes it super easy to spot, well, anything.
Using an AA plus syringe I injected 1cc into each jar. I'm using 1/4" drilled holes in my lids with poly stuffed so tight a pin has a hard time punching through. My holes are positioned towards the middle, so I understand the innards could be lively.
I'm at day 10 with no sign of growth. The other day I took one of my jars out to disturb it, only to find absolutely nothing inside.
Maybe I'm just being impatient, although I'm here to hopefully clear my mind!
Thanks guys.
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cronicr



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you inoculate against the glass? no growth is better then contams
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Inocuole
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So... 3 months of lurking and you didn't gather any info about germination times? Get back to us if nothing shows up in 2 weeks.
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weetsie
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impatient, 10 days is nothing for spores to grain.
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ShroomieNewbie
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Re: 10 days no growth [Re: weetsie]
#23549651 - 08/17/16 11:34 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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3 months lurking and I know how to use the search bar to find info on the site, Mr. Passive Aggressive. Don't flame just because you're having a shitty day.
Here's a link to one of the FEW topics here which describes grain germination times.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14495560
I even have one of the main reps at mushrooms.com telling me a week for germination is not right.
Is it possible that having only one 1/4" hole in my lids are not allowing enough GE?
There are no contams as of yet... That I know of. But if there is no GE are contams going to be able to grow anyways?
Edited by ShroomieNewbie (08/17/16 11:41 AM)
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cronicr



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No...you are being impatient nobody can tell you one week is not right there full of shit.
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Re: 10 days no growth [Re: cronicr]
#23549662 - 08/17/16 11:40 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Germination can pretty regularly take 2-3 weeks with spores to grain. Fuck them for their shitty advice.
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ShroomieNewbie
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Re: 10 days no growth [Re: Inocuole]
#23549670 - 08/17/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Fuck alright. That's what I get. I'll give her another week before crying in the shower.
Thanks guys.
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Moabfighter
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Thanks for the info everyone. Not my thread but helpful. 2 of 4 grain jars I inoculated I want to say a week ago have growth. 2 don't.
Was starting to worry, but now I won't.
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Perception7
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For me, multispore syringes takes 30 days to fully colonize a quart jar of organic rye grain berries. I have had this happen with Amazonian and Mazatapec syringes. Just make sure to shake at 20-30% colonized (decreases time taken to fully colonize by spreading the mycelium around the jar), and I shake again at 90-95% and let it recolonize, this takes about another 24-48 hours. It has been said that if the jar doesn't recolonize within 48 hours your probably dealing with a bacterial issue or contamination that is impeding the mycelium's growth.
Also when opening the jars give them a good smell, if they do not smell like the mushrooms you are growing, then you may have a problem jar and you should toss it as to not infect your other clean jars. When in doubt throw it out.
Good luck OP - also consider using a different vendor for your spores, there are 2-3 on here that are really good and reliable.
Edited by Perception7 (08/17/16 12:38 PM)
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cronicr



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Don't sniff jars for g2g
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Re: 10 days no growth [Re: Inocuole]
#23549876 - 08/17/16 12:43 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Inocuole said:

Germination can pretty regularly take 2-3 weeks with spores to grain. Fuck them for their shitty advice.
 yep - I usually see results in 8-15 day range . If youre in a rush try the cakes - Also start cycling > knock up your second batch now and your thirsd in a 2 weeks , then you always have something fruiting / in a stage of productivity.
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Mad Season
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90% of the time when shit germinates before a week for me, it turns green in the middle once it grows past the size of a nickel/quarter.
I wait up for 3ish weeks before I'm like eh fuck this. Though I've had shit take 1-2 months to germinate before. Not really sure why either.
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Re: 10 days no growth [Re: cronicr]
#23549941 - 08/17/16 01:16 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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cronicr said: Don't sniff jars for g2g
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ShroomieNewbie
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I appreciate the post.
Shaking at ~30% is one of the logs in my memory bank, however this is the first I've read about that last 5-10%. I'm one for taking out all the tools, and that extra step to check for stunted growth seems brilliant.
When in doubt, throw it the hell out indeed. Those are definitely the words to live by.
Which vendors would you personally suggest? I'm going mad scientist on this... Expect journals.
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Moabfighter
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My two jars that have germinated are only growing in one spot.
I've seen others where it looks like early growth is really spread out. Maybe mine will have more spots soon.
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ShroomieNewbie
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What's the reasoning behind not sniffing the g2g? Just lowering chances for the contamination?
I'd just like to get questions answered as simply as possible for anyone else who might be strollin through.
I'm also not really in any rush. I just know that applying words to real life actions looks and seems different at times. Especially running into unforseen hang ups or whatever. I am going to just wait this one out and try a GLC off of one of these 8 that I have going and fill my mono up with the other 7. After all the reading I have done, I want to go straight into LC and sooner than later move into Agar.
I will get better at using the forums. The online community thing is new to me and is definitely a trip..
Edited by ShroomieNewbie (08/17/16 09:33 PM)
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Inocuole
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Yeah you shouldn't be putting your nose, which creates air currents( I know right??), anywhere near your open jar.
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ShroomieNewbie
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Re: 10 days no growth [Re: Inocuole]
#23551408 - 08/17/16 09:35 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Inocuole said: Yeah you shouldn't be putting your nose, which creates air currents( I know right??), anywhere near your open jar.
Unless 100% colonized, correct?
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Inocuole
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No. If you're going to G2G it, it doesn't matter if it's 100% colonized, you don't put your nose over it and you don't let open air come in contact with it. You can only sniff jars you are going to spawn because they'll be in open air in a minute anyway.
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Re: 10 days no growth [Re: Inocuole]
#23551437 - 08/17/16 09:47 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Inocuole said: No. If you're going to G2G it, it doesn't matter if it's 100% colonized, you don't put your nose over it and you don't let open air come in contact with it. You can only sniff jars you are going to spawn because they'll be in open air in a minute anyway.
What dad said! ^^
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Re: 10 days no growth [Re: Inocuole]
#23551537 - 08/17/16 10:20 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Inocuole said: No. If you're going to G2G it, it doesn't matter if it's 100% colonized, you don't put your nose over it and you don't let open air come in contact with it. You can only sniff jars you are going to spawn because they'll be in open air in a minute anyway.
So eye-sight is my only hope for g2g then?
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cronicr



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Breat it up n whiff the filter if ya want
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Re: 10 days no growth [Re: cronicr]
#23551560 - 08/17/16 10:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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cronicr said: Breat it up n whiff the filter if ya want
My man! It must be getting late if I can't think of something so simple.. haha or maybe it just seems that way.
You sure learn a lot just by asking a few personalized questions. Everything's appreciated.
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Perception7
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Quote:
ShroomieNewbie said: I appreciate the post.
Shaking at ~30% is one of the logs in my memory bank, however this is the first I've read about that last 5-10%. I'm one for taking out all the tools, and that extra step to check for stunted growth seems brilliant.
When in doubt, throw it the hell out indeed. Those are definitely the words to live by.
Which vendors would you personally suggest? I'm going mad scientist on this... Expect journals.
Check your private messages.
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JesusDaMartian
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Re: 10 days no growth [Re: Inocuole]
#23553295 - 08/18/16 01:10 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Inocuole said: No. If you're going to G2G it, it doesn't matter if it's 100% colonized, you don't put your nose over it and you don't let open air come in contact with it. You can only sniff jars you are going to spawn because they'll be in open air in a minute anyway.
**Sniff**
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