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Offlinezzripz
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Re: Is your community awake? Is OUR community awake? [Re: nuentoter]
    #23552570 - 08/18/16 08:20 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

It is also sad the followers he has who cannot see what a joke he's become. just thouight I'd check out his FB--haven't for ages, and he's till at it. one post titled 'social control from the Grateful Dead to today'...EVEYONE but old Irvin o' course


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Re: Is your community awake? Is OUR community awake? [Re: zzripz]
    #23552587 - 08/18/16 08:26 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Excellent post zzrip, you articulated the elite's position very well :cheers:


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Re: Is your community awake? Is OUR community awake? [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #23552760 - 08/18/16 09:42 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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It is like they push BOTH sides so that no matter what a person chooses they are unknowingly encaspulated within their mind-control matrix--either beliving in some tryant warmongering sky god, 'OR' in their own tyrannical warmongering selves. What choice?? Along with these two beliefs, the latter more hidden ('occult' actually means hidden), they make sure to push a mechanistic myth into the psyches of millions and billions of children enforced to attend their so-called 'education' system. This myth makes people believe they are electro-chemical machines/computers living in an insentient/unconscious/dead world, and that their only purpose is to produce and consume for the state, and obey orders. IF people for what ever reason show signs of not conforming they will be criminalized (eg the person who uses and/or grows cannabis, or picks, and takes psychedelics), or pathologized. inother words we are under an occupation by a very evil insane warmongering elite who are also ecocidal, and that oppression (along with the accompanying life problems, family, personal)causes dis-ease, and this can manifest in various ways, body and mind. When it does so mind you can be called 'mentally ill' and have their drugs forced on you






I went through a period of my life not long ago where I felt like this world was trying to get me to commit to something to put my faith in, it felt like being deceived because both sides seemed to promote division, to promote a view point which wouldn't allow me to understand others that had different beliefs, but would keep me on edge around those that chose a different path than I did.  I  know I have a choice to be a certain way around people, but lets say I chose Jesus, well then I would get around other Christians and they would basically talk shit about non-Christians, or if I was around Satanists, then they would just talk about how stupid the religions were, and this just went around and around, and it would be easy to get sucked into that way of thinking if constantly around it, even if I didn't agree with that way of thinking, being exposed to its negativity all the time, was mentally/spiritually exhausting.

I feel like certain beliefs crush free independent thought, but if you don't choose you might not have much of interest to talk about around the water cooler, and often get viewed as strange by the majority of society that have made a choice to follow a certain religion, political party, sports team, etc.  This sounds crazy, but it's like those things exist in order to harvest our energy in some way, with fear, anxiety, anger being what the "rulers" of the world feed on.

I am opposed to labeling people that act/appear a certain way, because once a person puts their label on another, they often times treat that person a certain way, instead of trying to see the person for who they really are.  For example, I know some people that would look at someone that dressed in dark clothing and listened to heavy metal, as someone who was hardcore, but those types of people bleed the same color as you and I, or people that see a deadhead, and automatically think that person is hippy dippy, so those labels seem to dumb us down in a way, because we don't take the time to learn about others who are different than ourselves.  This fits into choosing a belief I think.

Religions, political parties, sub-cultures, etc, can only divide us if we allow them to, but many people get sucked into herd mentality when around others, they want to impress their peers, to be a part of the group, to feel that connection with others, that they might do something which is questionable.

I have much more to say about this, but some I don't feel comfortable posting publicly because it involves personal information, but I have been through the crucibles of this life, the institutionalized thinking being forced on me through numerous sources, and I have been able to resits it so far.

I don't know, I am rambling from the caffeine.




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I actually cannot stand Jan irvin. He is what I call a paranoist. he affords these people SUCH power that even the 60s psychedelic movement he thinks was all staged, and destroyed the anti-war movement. For anyone who is psychedelically experienced to state that is fkin dumb, IMO. He even suggest Alan Watts had a handler. Irvin is as mad as fck. if ANYONE (and this included me btw) dare contradict his tyrannical raving theories they are immediately banned. He threated to tear the tongue out of the author of The Psilocybin Solution, Simon Powell because he had written an article at RS saying really critiquing Jan's ideas.

he just goes TOO far in his paranoia and actually would make people feel disempowered, and not empowered, by the power he invests in the elite he supposedly exposes. A BS artist is Jan Irvin.
he is also fiercely patriarchal claiming that the psychedelic 60s was intended to destroy the family.





I must admit, I don't know much about Jan Irvin, but stumbled upon that link not long ago while looking for information regarding Amanita muscaria and its ties to religion.  I will have to read more about him though.

But I do think it's wise if you want to glean a better understanding of how things in this world are, to read as many sources about whatever topic you're researching, this way you can understand what all sides are saying, and not just side with the first source that agrees with your opinion on a matter.

I will say this regarding Irvin's thoughts on Watts having a handler.  It seems like the powers that run this world, put their hands on everything, it seems like once something starts gaining attention on a large scale, then the cabal which runs this world steps in an influences what is being taught.  I have not read Irvin's thoughts on Watts though.


Again this could come down to a choice, which side do you believe, which side do you choose.


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Re: Is your community awake? Is OUR community awake? [Re: Lucis]
    #23553198 - 08/18/16 12:20 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

from all the negativity and hostility i've received on this forum thus far, it would be easy for me to conclude that this community is not even close to "awake."


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Re: Is your community awake? Is OUR community awake? [Re: yogashaman21]
    #23553475 - 08/18/16 02:27 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Two things:

One, I've always loved nature since a kid and certainly psychedelics amplifies this resonance. I'll never forget one of my first mushroom trips and I wanted to lay down and we were in the woods ( a common spot for us a youth to trip and get away from people and parents) it wasn't until I later down fully in the dirt and leaves while tripping that I realize you don't get dirty doing this, you get life all over. It's not messy it's just everything that is, and happens to be part of you as well.


Years later this theme has always stick with me. But through my own awakening to the massive decoration portrayed in today's world that I began to analyze how this idea impacts the physical realm.

If land mass boarders are human constructs so to then are the boundaries our brain fools us into thinking. For example you believe you sack of skin separates your body from the world. But In a physical sense there is no boundary on a micro scale.

So just as the earth is one thing and the boarders that trick us into thinking its many nations is just a facade. We are all one and here is no separation! One of my biggest breakthroughs has been  to truly grasp what these concepts reveal in social constructs used to manipulate.


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UNDENIABLE PROOF A MODERATOR (Enlil) USES FRAUDULENT POSTS TO SUPOORT HIS OPINIONS.  https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23596771#23596771 ; anyone can verify my original post in its unedited format. This proves the length the disinfo whores will go to defend pseudo theories. What quack jobs. Time to get out of moms basement.

One must ask why they would be complicit in crimes against humanity? Is debt based money really worth whoring out your credibility for?


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Re: Is your community awake? Is OUR community awake? [Re: Maroon]
    #23553738 - 08/18/16 03:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

what the rulers of this world seem to fear a lot is people forming community and being close to the land. If you look at the myths they push they all are about divide and control, and this will include dividing you from your very nature and body, from other species, from community of diverse humans, and from the natural world. From there they can then have you very unstable, fearful, guilt-ridden, and push absurd beliefs/myths which further control you. it is shocking what utter crap people can be made to believe!
A while ago I did a thread about the church of Scientology cult, reason being that because it is so recent it is easier to see how such a stupid belief system begins and becomes established sucking more and more people in. I mean for fks sake the founder of it was a known science fiction and fantasy author!! :lolwut:
And yet and yet this knowledge not only doesn't put gullible humans off, they will also sign billion years contracts believing they will be following this comedic nonesnese many lifetimes.

But of course we also have the more ancient belief systems which millions follow. So example, Christianity---there is no actual historical evidence for the main character, Jesus, etc but does this put off its followers...............? No. Even if there were we are having to believe him the 'only Son of God' born of a 'Virgin', 'physically resurrected'

Same is so for the Islamic prophet Muhammad--no historical evidence, yet even if there were it is same old sht of someone having a purported vision, and this is supposedly meaning that he should make a religion out of it for the gullible to follow, and if they don't they die?

What about the 'Buddha', Siddhartha Gautama?--no historical evidence.

These myths are more about social control, and yet so many people will sacrifice theirs and their children's lives to them. And I think it is because of the underlying divide and control mindcontrol that's been done to them/us, and these belief systems reinforce it which is a further clue. they ARE it!

Same is going on with the materialist-mechanistic myth we are oppressed under. Think it was a coincidence that this was really pushed forwards by chosen prominent 'thinkers as the Industrial Revolution came to be where they wanted mindless slaves/cogs for their factories etc. Already mind-fked by the agfes old religious propaganda which was still having a hold over people, and/or unconsciously. Now today people will have psychedelic experience and be convinced it is 'just chemicals'! Because the 'Expert' told me so...


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Re: Is your community awake? Is OUR community awake? [Re: yogashaman21]
    #23565824 - 08/22/16 12:11 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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from all the negativity and hostility i've received on this forum thus far, it would be easy for me to conclude that this community is not even close to "awake."



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Says the guy who has spent months messaging me harassing messages ..


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Re: Is your community awake? Is OUR community awake? [Re: notapillow]
    #23589995 - 08/29/16 01:09 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The more i interact with people recently it certainly seems like awareness of the large issues that lead to awakening people have stepped out of the taboo and into the mainstream.

People can't ignore that realities don't match what they are being told should be their reality and it's causing more people to wake up.


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UNDENIABLE PROOF A MODERATOR (Enlil) USES FRAUDULENT POSTS TO SUPOORT HIS OPINIONS.  https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23596771#23596771 ; anyone can verify my original post in its unedited format. This proves the length the disinfo whores will go to defend pseudo theories. What quack jobs. Time to get out of moms basement.

One must ask why they would be complicit in crimes against humanity? Is debt based money really worth whoring out your credibility for?


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Re: Is your community awake? Is OUR community awake? [Re: Maroon]
    #23594762 - 08/30/16 06:33 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Very much so. :smile:


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