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Re: Set myself on fire twice using SAB? [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #23995556 - 01/09/17 03:37 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

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Throw a mag glass into the lid, great for hard to see contams and transfers :awesomenod:






That's whatsup


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Re: Set myself on fire twice using SAB? [Re: Kenetic]
    #23995567 - 01/09/17 03:42 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

And I stopped using soap and water strictly because I hated the residue that built up on everything, and if I sprayed with petris or something in the sab it makes them slippery as hell and actually makes me paranoid that it's increasing the contam rate to have all the residue all over everything. 

If I ever spray it's only if I'm gonna be in there for a while and it's only with water.  I'm not suggesting people do it, mainly just pointing out how much I hate the residue.


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Re: Set myself on fire twice using SAB? [Re: Kenetic] * 1
    #23995568 - 01/09/17 03:42 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

The lid is eye level for me so I would have to stand up to look through the magnifying glass.

I've never spent more than 5-15m at the SAB station. Longest I've ever had to do sab work was when i did three sleeves of dishes in one go

Residue = way too much soap per water.


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Re: Set myself on fire twice using SAB? [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
    #23995588 - 01/09/17 03:50 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

yah i use like a drop of dish soap in a old windex bottle


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Re: Set myself on fire twice using SAB? [Re: mushboy]
    #23995597 - 01/09/17 03:52 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

I used a couple drops but it was in a really small bottle.....  maybe that's why I'm prejudice lol.  In any case I don't need it.


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Re: Set myself on fire twice using SAB? [Re: Kenetic] * 2
    #23995611 - 01/09/17 03:57 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

I have a 500ml sprayer from Walgreens I put one drop of dish soap in


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Re: Set myself on fire twice using SAB? [Re: wtfcrazymofo]
    #23995650 - 01/09/17 04:11 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

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No. Air movement by hands is not constant the "still" air relatively to the moving air creates a lot of drag so it arrests the new moving air. A flame creates constant convection from it creating draw as it consumes oxygen and the  heat from the flame

I run a propane blowtorch UL100 brass tip for the blue bottle or green camping bottles. On low outside the SAB on the whole time I'm doing SAB work




Thanks, couldn't have asked for a better response to help me understand the logic behind the process, and thus make me look at things more objectively.

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I'm seeing people say to flame sterilise outside the SAB, as the flame/heat will otherwise move the air around and defeat the SAB's purpose.. but surely taking your arms in and out of the SAB will be just as bad, if not worse?!

Entertaining thread  :smile:




Thank god you came and enlightened us to this obvious hole in our logic!  What would we ever do if some guy who's never done this hadn't came and laid bare how futile and self-defeating our advice is..  Good thing we're on the internet where anyone can voice their doubts on common techniques that thousands of people use.

Back to flaming inside the box.  Because, you know, this thread wasn't a lesson or anything.




I was asking a question - I'm sorry this somehow damaged your fragile ego.



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Yes, it was my ego that was damaged by his post.  Not my brain cells..  "Ego." :rolleyes:


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Re: Set myself on fire twice using SAB? [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23995787 - 01/09/17 04:57 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

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Hey everyone.


So I'm inclined to believe I'm not doing something right. I set up my SAB on a tray in a small closet. Got shower, got in closet naked. Sprayed inside of SAB with alcohol.  Put gloves on. Used alcohol on the gloves, put alcohol pad, syringe, jars, etc in SAB. Lit my syringe with a torch, and poof. I was engulfed in flames. My arms and hands. Luckily I had gloves on. Ripped them off. Blew all the fire out.

So, I got a gallon of water incase this happened again. Did a few jars no problem,, alcoholed the needle for each jar. 4th or 5th one later, it happened Again. I was more on fire this time. But I got the water and put it all out.


Surely you guys don't often set yourself on fire often doing this.... Am I using too much alcohol? Maybe my SAB is too small?





a fire extinguisher might work better than water but research works pretty well. 

BTW i would suggest using iso alcohol in a SAB, without the flame. 

i did not read all the post so i do not know if any of this has been suggested or covered.


Edited by enlightened seed (01/09/17 04:58 PM)


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Re: Set myself on fire twice using SAB? [Re: enlightened seed]
    #23995789 - 01/09/17 04:57 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

always use a flame:facepalm3:


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Re: Set myself on fire twice using SAB? [Re: mushboy]
    #23995804 - 01/09/17 05:01 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

flame or get flamed


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Re: Set myself on fire twice using SAB? [Re: Kenetic] * 1
    #23995873 - 01/09/17 05:29 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

Oh shit a pubber! :breakout:


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Re: Set myself on fire twice using SAB? [Re: Josex]
    #23995884 - 01/09/17 05:32 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

I don't know if it's been mentioned but why in the world are people spraying the inside of their SABs with anything other than light soapy water?

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Re: Set myself on fire twice using SAB? [Re: Adden]
    #23995894 - 01/09/17 05:34 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

Right, you aint gonna kill shit no matter with what you spray, at least soapy water helps keep things wet for longer


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Re: Set myself on fire twice using SAB? [Re: Josex]
    #23995896 - 01/09/17 05:36 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

Spray inside of SAB with soapy water. Spray towel that you'll be setting the SAB on with soapy water. Flip SAB upside down and shoot a few more loads in. Load materials. Wait for micropore or other filters to dry. Go to work. It ain't hard..


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Re: Set myself on fire twice using SAB? [Re: Adden]
    #23996014 - 01/09/17 06:02 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

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Spray inside of SAB with soapy water. Spray towel that you'll be setting the SAB on with soapy water. Flip SAB upside down and shoot a few more loads in. Load materials. Wait for micropore or other filters to dry. Go to work. It ain't hard..




Sounds easy enough.

It's my understanding that soap spray works by having droplets capture and hold any "bits of crud" that are floating around in the air, and keep anything already on the walls of the SAB locked there.

I've also read some research on just what it takes to absolutely sterilize by using chemical sprays, and the results are less than you'd expect from the advertising. 10 or 20 minutes wait time for simple disinfection (get rid of living microbes) and hours of waiting for exotic chemistry to sterilize (get rid of anything that could grow).

What I haven't seen is any study on using plain old Febreeze or a generic. It's a sugar molecule that gloms on to airborne odor molecules and drags them to the floor. Harmless, it works by physically grabbing stuff rather than trying to kill things. I can vouch that the "Zep" brand generic is not flammable.

Anybody want to test it as an SAB spray?


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Re: Set myself on fire twice using SAB? [Re: MrPaulCaruso]
    #23996036 - 01/09/17 06:08 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

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Spray inside of SAB with soapy water. Spray towel that you'll be setting the SAB on with soapy water. Flip SAB upside down and shoot a few more loads in. Load materials. Wait for micropore or other filters to dry. Go to work. It ain't hard..




Sounds easy enough.

It's my understanding that soap spray works by having droplets capture and hold any "bits of crud" that are floating around in the air, and keep anything already on the walls of the SAB locked there.

I've also read some research on just what it takes to absolutely sterilize by using chemical sprays, and the results are less than you'd expect from the advertising. 10 or 20 minutes wait time for simple disinfection (get rid of living microbes) and hours of waiting for exotic chemistry to sterilize (get rid of anything that could grow).

What I haven't seen is any study on using plain old Febreeze or a generic. It's a sugar molecule that gloms on to airborne odor molecules and drags them to the floor. Harmless, it works by physically grabbing stuff rather than trying to kill things. I can vouch that the "Zep" brand generic is not flammable.

Anybody want to test it as an SAB spray?



Ineffective, waste of time and money. Its a STILL air box not a sterile air box. Won't add any benefit on top of just spraying with soap and water.


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Re: Set myself on fire twice using SAB? [Re: Munchauzen]
    #23996046 - 01/09/17 06:11 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

I use nothing or some water spray with a drop of soap. Not that this is a dick measuring contest but what results back up using bullshit chemicals?


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Re: Set myself on fire twice using SAB? [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
    #23996382 - 01/09/17 07:41 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

Well, after I made this this thread, I never set myself on fire again. So there's that atleast :smile:


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Re: Set myself on fire twice using SAB? [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23996403 - 01/09/17 07:46 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

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