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Sad noob with no result
#23546602 - 08/16/16 11:14 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hello there,
Summary: 10 cakes SGFC Followed Jim Read (Roadkill) religiously. Let consolidate 9 days before birthing. 14 days since birth, dunked for 18 hours This sad little shroom as the only result:

I consulted the video and/or this forum everyday since a week, and I can't figure what I'm doing wrong. Any help would be appreciated. I want them prosperous and happy.
My FC:

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Re: Sad noob with no result [Re: darling]
#23546642 - 08/16/16 11:41 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey there darling... I'm just another noobie but what's your misting and fanning schedule like?
Also what is that blue and gray thing in the end of your tub?
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Re: Sad noob with no result [Re: darling]
#23546647 - 08/16/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm not meaning to derail your thread, but that first picture totally freaked me out. I was like "Holy shit those mushrooms look like fingers" and then I scrolled down and was like 
But then I realized they were attached to an actual hand and everything got better.
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Re: Sad noob with no result [Re: Peteyboy]
#23546666 - 08/16/16 11:51 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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A closeup of the cakes might help more instead of a thumbnail pic. Also what's that grey box in the sgfc? Looks too big to be a hygrometer.
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What's the thing in the FC that looks like a radio? Upload the pics and copy paste url into thread so we can enlarge.thumbup:
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Re: Sad noob with no result [Re: Peteyboy]
#23546679 - 08/16/16 11:55 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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HAHA I put my pinkie close to show how small was that shroomydear. I harvested it cause the veil broke yesterday morning...
I mist about 3 times a day, when it's not sparkling anymore, from above the FC, then I fan for 10-20 seconds. Recently it was more humid outside, so it was more 2 times a day.
I work partly from home, so when I'm here I fan about once every 1-2 hours.
The light you see is from the nearby window, but the FC is far enough to never be in the sunlight. The window is always open, so fresh near-automn air circulates on the floor.
The grey thing at the right is a thermometer/hygrometer without electronics. It faces outside so I can check it without opening the chamber, and so that the sensors face the center.
The top left cake, I dunked it a second time as a test, this time 24 hours, 4 days ago. It doesn't seem to make any difference.
I admit that I'm worried about them 
EDIT : bigger pictures incoming
Edited by darling (08/16/16 11:57 AM)
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Re: Sad noob with no result [Re: Peteyboy]
#23546683 - 08/16/16 11:56 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Your pics don't expand, making it difficult to tell anything from the thumbnails.
Another noobie also, but the number of holes, fact that the SGFC is elevated, amount of perlite, size of foil under the cakes, all looks good.
Curious to see where this leads...

Don't fan on a schedule. When you mist, use the lid to give the cakes a quick fan with the lid and stop at that. The logic behind is fanning is that by fanning, you're helping start evaporation, which triggers pinning. But since you're using a SGFC that should be allowing proper FAE, fanning more than just after misting is unnecessary.
Ditch the hygrometer, you'll learn how to adjust the conditions based on the mushies performance. This is much better than using an instrument, be it electronic or analog.
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Edited by h0ldthedoor (08/16/16 12:00 PM)
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Kush_Zombie said: I'm not meaning to derail your thread, but that first picture totally freaked me out. I was like "Holy shit those mushrooms look like fingers" and then I scrolled down and was like 
But then I realized they were attached to an actual hand and everything got better.
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h0ldthedoor said: Don't fan on a schedule. When you mist, use the lid to give the cakes a quick fan with the lid and stop at that. The logic behind is fanning is that by fanning, you're helping start evaporation, which triggers pinning. But since you're using a SGFC that should be allowing proper FAE, fanning more than just after misting is unnecessary.
Ditch the hygrometer, you'll learn how to adjust the conditions based on the mushies performance. This is much better than using an instrument, be it electronic or analog.
It might be the problem; I calibrated the hygro 2 weeks ago, and now it stands between 90 and 97~ish. But maybe it's defect, and that I leave my babies alone :S And treat them like "independent" teenagers rather than babies.
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Re: Sad noob with no result [Re: darling]
#23546712 - 08/16/16 12:10 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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A couple of those cakes look pink?
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Holes on bottom of tub as well?
Perlite still moist?
Cakes look pink in a few areas...is that because of the picture or are they really pink? This question is pretty important. Hehe ------------------------------- I take it these cakes have been inoculated with a spore syringe? Multi-Spore grows (or MS for short) will usually have uneven flushing patterns and sporadic mushroom growth instead of just one large flush from all cakes at once.
14 days is a fair amount of time for them to be in the SGFC - but 14 days and only one mushroom is not cause to worry quite yet. My advice is to not worry about how long they've been in there quite yet -but to worry about what their conditions are like. Are the cakes properly hydrated? Do you see any blueing on the mycelium at all?
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h0ldthedoor said: Don't fan on a schedule. When you mist, use the lid to give the cakes a quick fan with the lid and stop at that. The logic behind is fanning is that by fanning, you're helping start evaporation, which triggers pinning. But since you're using a SGFC that should be allowing proper FAE, fanning more than just after misting is unnecessary.
Not only is it unnecessary but it will dry out your cakes something fierce. Don't worry about fresh air, your SGFC is doing that for you. -------------------------------
Let's wait on a veteran to hop in here, it shouldn't be long now that it's been bumped again. We'll do our best to get you on the right track!
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Re: Sad noob with no result [Re: morty422]
#23546775 - 08/16/16 12:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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The cakes are white (I just checked it to be sure). The photo makes it look pink somehow!
Bottom of the FC is holed as well.
If i dip my finger in the perlite, my finger is moisty but not dripping.
There was a bit a blueing in the first days, then I added holes: you can see on the picture that the pattern of the holes is not square near the top of the walls. I did the same under. I also began the heavy fanning. The blue disappeared. (Thanks to reading this forum )
Yes, it came from a single syringe from a Shroomery sponsor. Do you suggest there might be more than one kind of darlings there? It's supposed to be penis envy.
Thanks so much to everyone for your help! I didn't think I would have answers before tonight ^.^ *hugs*
Edited by darling (08/16/16 12:42 PM)
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Re: Sad noob with no result [Re: darling]
#23546804 - 08/16/16 12:49 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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At this point, your issue is above my expertise.
Albino Penis Envy, eh? Interesting.
Let's wait on a Trusted Cultivator.
APE (Albino Penis Envy) is a unique choice of mushroom to work with and may not be beginner friendly. It is sort of a novelty mushroom. Good flushes are difficult to achieve.
Your first mushroom you posted a picture of doesn't look like APE though-so that's why I am telling you it is above my expertise now.
Sit tight, help shall arrive soon.
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Re: Sad noob with no result [Re: morty422]
#23546809 - 08/16/16 12:51 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I first wrote APE, but then I checked the syringes and see simple PE. :P For the best I hope!
The above post I corrected a bit too late I think.
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Re: Sad noob with no result [Re: darling]
#23546830 - 08/16/16 12:58 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have PE cakes going now too, it is rumored that they are tough to fruit on cakes and take longer then usual to pin and fruit...but it's certainly debatable
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Re: Sad noob with no result [Re: darling]
#23546835 - 08/16/16 12:59 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Penis envy type varieties take a very long time to pin and need far more water than most classic cubes. Because of this they tend to do poorly on cakes unless you consolidate for 2-3 weeks since they just dry out while sitting in the chamber. Once pinning they often need more water than the cakes can provide so bottom watering is needed to supply extra once the pinset is in. They also seem to prefer a better casing than simple vermiculite.
Because of these things PE is often recommended to not be done on cakes. If those were mine however I would simply redunk them and that might help. Next time if you do PE on cakes let them consolidate longer and leave them in the jars. Case with coir and top fruit. You will see far better results.
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Re: Sad noob with no result [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23546846 - 08/16/16 01:02 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: Penis envy type varieties take a very long time to pin and need far more water than most classic cubes. Because of this they tend to do poorly on cakes unless you consolidate for 2-3 weeks since they just dry out while sitting in the chamber. Once pinning they often need more water than the cakes can provide so bottom watering is needed to supply extra once the pinset is in. They also seem to prefer a better casing than simple vermiculite.
Because of these things PE is often recommended to not be done on cakes. If those were mine however I would simply redunk them and that might help. Next time if you do PE on cakes let them consolidate longer and leave them in the jars. Case with coir and top fruit. You will see far better results.
Zing!
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Re: Sad noob with no result [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23546870 - 08/16/16 01:12 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: Penis envy type varieties take a very long time to pin and need far more water than most classic cubes. Because of this they tend to do poorly on cakes unless you consolidate for 2-3 weeks since they just dry out while sitting in the chamber. Once pinning they often need more water than the cakes can provide so bottom watering is needed to supply extra once the pinset is in. They also seem to prefer a better casing than simple vermiculite.
Because of these things PE is often recommended to not be done on cakes. If those were mine however I would simply redunk them and that might help. Next time if you do PE on cakes let them consolidate longer and leave them in the jars. Case with coir and top fruit. You will see far better results.
Hmmm I think I'm going to do this if this is your recommendation...I have a bunch of jars I was about to birth to dunk and roll...if doing your recommended method...
Should I still dunk and roll? Should I still fruit in SGFC? Sterilize coir?
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Re: Sad noob with no result [Re: Peteyboy]
#23546879 - 08/16/16 01:18 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you have jars not yet birthed I would
Leave em another week or two in the jar.
Birth, dunk, put back in the jar.
Case the top with coir or verm.
Fruit in SGFC.
Once pins are an inch tall add a few cc's of water to each jar at night and drain off in the morning.
You also harvested that fruit in your pic too early. With PE we wait for the caps to turn gold and bumps to form on the stipe right under the cap. That one had 2 days to go still.
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Re: Sad noob with no result [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23546914 - 08/16/16 01:27 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: If you have jars not yet birthed I would
Leave em another week or two in the jar.
Birth, dunk, put back in the jar.
Case the top with coir or verm.
Fruit in SGFC.
Once pins are an inch tall add a few cc's of water to each jar at night and drain off in the morning.
You also harvested that fruit in your pic too early. With PE we wait for the caps to turn gold and bumps to form on the stipe right under the cap. That one had 2 days to go still.
I will definitely be doing this!!
I was considering going to trays with some of the jars after reading about them being stubborn on cakes. But this method seems like mini trays!
Edited by Peteyboy (08/16/16 01:29 PM)
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Re: Sad noob with no result [Re: Peteyboy]
#23547006 - 08/16/16 02:07 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think your cakes are too wet
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Re: Sad noob with no result [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23547029 - 08/16/16 02:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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morty422 said: Penis envy type varieties take a very long time to pin and need far more water than most classic cubes. Because of this they tend to do poorly on cakes unless you consolidate for 2-3 weeks since they just dry out while sitting in the chamber. Once pinning they often need more water than the cakes can provide so bottom watering is needed to supply extra once the pinset is in. They also seem to prefer a better casing than simple vermiculite.
Because of these things PE is often recommended to not be done on cakes. If those were mine however I would simply redunk them and that might help. Next time if you do PE on cakes let them consolidate longer and leave them in the jars. Case with coir and top fruit. You will see far better results.
I heard this while reading you. This explains everything! Like, 42 and all.
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Pasty for the win.
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Indeed, it is 
Ok, so I'll dunk them all once more for 20h -- they're plunged right now.
EDIT: Removed question. Finally figured it out - misunderstood as english not my first language.
Edited by darling (08/16/16 04:21 PM)
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Re: Sad noob with no result [Re: darling]
#23552519 - 08/18/16 07:51 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Now redunked and covered worth coir and verm ☺
After the dunk, that had lots of knots
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Edited by darling (08/18/16 07:52 AM)
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Re: Sad noob with no result [Re: darling]
#23552541 - 08/18/16 08:00 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Good luck!! Keeping my fingers crossed for you!!
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Re: Sad noob with no result [Re: Peteyboy] 1
#23552544 - 08/18/16 08:01 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Good luck  Hope you get more fingers than last time.
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Pf tek is a very inefficient outdated method. Just crumble your cakes mix them with coco coir and throw them in a container, you wont regret it
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Re: Sad noob with no result [Re: Aureus]
#23572429 - 08/24/16 10:29 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I thought about doing this with half those cakes, but first I want to read another 100 times the details about bulk grow :P
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Re: Sad noob with no result [Re: darling]
#23572495 - 08/24/16 10:53 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lol good idea! I decided to use my PE jars as spawn myself, got my supplies just gotta get set up!
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Re: Sad noob with no result [Re: darling]
#23572551 - 08/24/16 11:12 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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The only secret about it is pasteurization, if you dont pasteurize properly it will contaminate, if you pasteurize too much it will kill the good bacteria that would protect your substrate, you just need to find a balance.
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Re: Sad noob with no result [Re: Aureus]
#23572563 - 08/24/16 11:18 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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As a noobie I'm gonna choose to go with CVG, from what ive read, and ive done ALOT of reading here...its just so much easier, and yield is consistently larger, it seems as the water retention is better and the substrate itself is far less prone to contams.
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Re: Sad noob with no result [Re: Peteyboy]
#23572590 - 08/24/16 11:29 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sounds cool
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Re: Sad noob with no result [Re: Peteyboy]
#23573493 - 08/24/16 04:36 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Peteyboy said: As a noobie I'm gonna choose to go with CVG, from what ive read, and ive done ALOT of reading here...its just so much easier, and yield is consistently larger, it seems as the water retention is better and the substrate itself is far less prone to contams.
I'll do the same if I don't get result a week from here. Now my cakes have become fluffly mushpuffs, and two days ago I realized that my holes were smaller than 1/4 inch. Cakes seems happier since; tentacles stopped reaching outside, and are turning into snowy cotton.
Poor darlings, suffering from the innocence of a good-willed yet oblivious dear ;_;
Could someone tell me if this link is up-to-date with today's knowledge? https://www.shroomery.org/10858/How-to-do-Coir
Also if the tek would be good for a mini-monotub for a quarter of the recipe.. ?
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Re: Sad noob with no result [Re: Aureus] 1
#23573573 - 08/24/16 05:09 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Aureus said: Pf tek is a very inefficient outdated method. Just crumble your cakes mix them with coco coir and throw them in a container, you wont regret it
You know what's inefficient? Spawning cakes to bulk. Fruiting cakes as cakes is preferable. Half the benefit of them being cakes is having an unbroken colony with no recovery period. Once you break them up and spawn them to bulk that's ruined and they're as likely to contam as anything else.
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Re: Sad noob with no result [Re: Aureus]
#23573695 - 08/24/16 05:56 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Aureus said: The only secret about it is pasteurization, if you dont pasteurize properly it will contaminate, if you pasteurize too much it will kill the good bacteria that would protect your substrate, you just need to find a balance.
If coir is what you speak of it can be sterilized just fine,really no benefitial bacteria in it and no need for proper pastureization. You can even pressure cook coir, if it contaminates most likely dirty spawn or foreign matter in the coir like random seeds. That's why we can get away with just pouring boiling water over it in a bucket. Manure, straw ect does however require proper pastureization.
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Re: Sad noob with no result [Re: Inocuole]
#23573721 - 08/24/16 06:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Inocuole said:
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Aureus said: Pf tek is a very inefficient outdated method. Just crumble your cakes mix them with coco coir and throw them in a container, you wont regret it
You know what's inefficient? Spawning cakes to bulk. Fruiting cakes as cakes is preferable. Half the benefit of them being cakes is having an unbroken colony with no recovery period. Once you break them up and spawn them to bulk that's ruined and they're as more likely to contam as than anything else.
FTFY
Filthy fuckin brf spawn
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Re: Sad noob with no result [Re: Inocuole]
#23574314 - 08/24/16 09:47 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Inocuole said:
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Aureus said: Pf tek is a very inefficient outdated method. Just crumble your cakes mix them with coco coir and throw them in a container, you wont regret it
You know what's inefficient? Spawning cakes to bulk. Fruiting cakes as cakes is preferable. Half the benefit of them being cakes is having an unbroken colony with no recovery period. Once you break them up and spawn them to bulk that's ruined and they're as likely to contam as anything else.
Shrooms do better on dead plant material, that's their natural habitat
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Re: Sad noob with no result [Re: Aureus]
#23574520 - 08/24/16 11:16 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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.... It's a dung lover. Even if decomposed plants were the natural habitat, that sound an awfully lot like what coco coir is.
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Re: Sad noob with no result [Re: Inocuole]
#23574545 - 08/24/16 11:26 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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We are improving upon nature. In the wild cubes occupy a niche environment yet put out a pretty shitty return. Show me a single instance of natural cubes growing from poo that look like this
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Re: Sad noob with no result [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23574569 - 08/24/16 11:34 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: We are improving upon nature. In the wild cubes occupy a niche environment yet put out a pretty shitty return. Show me a single instance of natural cubes growing from poo that look like this

I do love a good opportunity to make this exact post..
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Re: Sad noob with no result [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23575151 - 08/25/16 06:57 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: We are improving upon nature. In the wild cubes occupy a niche environment yet put out a pretty shitty return. Show me a single instance of natural cubes growing from poo that look like this

What did you use to make your bulk, coco coir right? That's a dead plant material.
I'm just saying that cakes dont mimic very well their natural habitat, that's why they yield so little.
Edited by Aureus (08/25/16 07:05 AM)
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Re: Sad noob with no result [Re: Aureus]
#23575174 - 08/25/16 07:11 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Why? Rice is plant matter. Cows don't eat coconuts. Cubes can grow from straight rice a lot better than they ever could from straight coconut husk. Your position is confusing at best.
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Re: Sad noob with no result [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23575633 - 08/25/16 10:26 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lol some dudes just GOTTA be right about SOMEthing...
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Re: Sad noob with no result [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23578605 - 08/26/16 05:15 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: Cows don't eat coconuts.
They do eat coconuts sir, I once fed my grandpa's cow some coconuts
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Re: Sad noob with no result [Re: Aureus]
#23578687 - 08/26/16 06:20 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Aureus said:
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Pastywhyte said: Cows don't eat coconuts.
They do eat coconuts sir, I once fed my grandpa's cow some coconuts
I imagine you can also feed a cow rice too. We are going in circles.
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Re: Sad noob with no result [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23579190 - 08/26/16 10:00 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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lol i'm joking
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Re: Sad noob with no result [Re: Aureus] 1
#23579849 - 08/26/16 12:38 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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We could feed cows love. Can cubes grow in love?
Amazing. Today's youth's technology is outrageous.
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