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Being a vegetarian. Or vegan. One of those V words (vaginatarian!)
#23546507 - 08/16/16 10:23 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I gave it a shot a few years back for a week or two, It was ok. But apparently it's really hard to be a vegetarian because everything seems to be meat oriented. Also, it's very easy to just eat carbs and not be healthier than a meat eater.
So questions for the vegetarians. It it hard sometimes? Do restaurants have enough vegetarian options? Care to share some recipes?
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Re: Being a vegetarian. Or vegan. One of those V words (vaginatarian!) [Re: Patlal]
#23546548 - 08/16/16 10:46 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't have a problem being vegetarian. There were small cravings the first year but it really didn't get that bad. Now I seriously can't stand meat. I worked on an organic farm one time and they made some burgers from freshly slaughtered cows and I considered trying one so I bent down to smell it and it immediately turned my stomach and made me lose my appetite. It was really just the thought of a burger that made me want it, not the actual burger itself if that makes sense. Once I learned how to make veggie burgers I got rid of that craving. I'd say I eat pretty damn good tbh. I personally see my diet as a diet with much variety and because meat is so expensive, I save a lot of money too whether I eat out or I shop for groceries.
It's rare I eat out. Last time I ate out was at Chile's and I was surprised to see that they did have a black bean burger. It legitly really good imo.
I've made a couple attempts now at going completely vegan, but I don't have enough variety around my little town to commit to that switch so I always end up going back to being vegetarian. I was actually a vegetarian for a couple of weeks before I actually decided to really be a vegetarian.
I genuinely feel so much better since becoming vegetarian, but sadly I always feel really shitty when I switch to a vegan diet. I blame my lack of resources for a proper vegan diet though. I'm not sure if my body would accept a proper vegan diet well or not, but I know limiting myself to one or two of the same meals everyday of the week wasn't working for me. If I was in a bigger town I think I would've done better, there's actually a lot of variety for vegans these days if you're in the right location.
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Re: Being a vegetarian. Or vegan. One of those V words (vaginatarian!) [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#23546624 - 08/16/16 11:31 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Bread (vegan or vegetarian):
1/4c almond milk (or regular milk) 5tsp raw sugar 1 tsp salt 5tsp EarthBalance butter (or regular butter) 1 package dry yeast 2 1/2c - 3 1/2c flour
Pour the yeast into 1c of warm water and add 1 tsp of sugar, give it a quick stir and let it sit for 10 minutes. While you're waiting, melt 5 tsp of butter and mix it in with your milk to balance out the temperatures. Add your milk/butter and salt to the yeast/water. Add 2 cups of flour and stir. Keep adding flour and start mixing with your hands until it's still sticking to your hands but barely. Knead for 10 minutes and then set in a warm area with a towel over the bowl to prevent dust from getting in it for 1 hour.
After 1 hour is up, punch it down and form it out to a length AND a half the size of the bread pan you're putting it in, and then stretch out the other sides to a length the size of the bread pan you're putting it in. Roll it up, stick it in the greased bread pan, put a towel over it and let it sit in a warm spot for another hour.
Put in oven at 400F for 30 minutes.
I can use this bread dough for pizza by adding Italian seasonings to it, pretzels, cinnamon rolls, yeast rolls, etc. When I'm in a hurry I just let it rise once.
Drop Biscuits: (I consider eggs to be vegetarian)
2c flour 1tbsp sugar 2tsp baking powder 1/4tsp baking soda 1/2 tsp salt 1/2c butter 1/2c milk 1 large egg 2tsp lemon juice
400F for 18 - 20 minutes
Melt the butter. Mix the egg and milk together before adding to ingredients. Add the lemon juice last so that it activates the baking soda right before it goes in the oven. drop on a baking sheet by the spoonful.
Gravy:
5tbsp unsalted butter 4tbsp flour 2c milk Salt & Pepper
Melt the butter and flour together, add a LITTLE milk at a time keeping on medium-high heat until it has time to thicken as you go. Add salt & pepper to taste.
Lemon Pancakes:
1 1/2c flour 2tsp baking powder 1/4c sugar pinch of salt 1 1/2c milk 3 eggs juice of one large lemon 1tsp vanilla 6tbsp butter, melted & cooled
I like to add honey on mine.
I make a badass pineapple cake with a cream cheese icing that's so good but I'm gonna be selfish with that recipe 
Oven Fries:
2 1/2 lb potatoes 1 Tsp olive oil 1 Tbsp sugar 1 tsp salt 1 pinch or more of ground cayenne pepper
425F for 15 minutes OR 375F for 10 minutes
(Idk why I have both of those times written down but I'm sure one just makes them crispy and the other just makes them more 'fluffy'
Black Bean Burgers:
15oz black beans 1/3c onion 1 Tbsp minced garlic 3 baby carrots grated (optional) 1/4v minced bell pepper (optional) 1 Tbsp arrowroot powder (or an egg, or cornstarch) 1 Tbsp warm water 1tsp chili powder 1tsp ground cumin 1/4 tsp salt 1/4 tsp pepper 2 slices whole wheat bread torn to crumbs 3/4c flour or as needed
Mash beans - add onion, garlic, carrots, & bell peper. Mix Arrowroot powder (or egg) & water together and then add to bean mixture. Mix chili powder, cumin, salt, & black peper together in a small bowl and add to bean mixture. Mix bread crumbs into bean mixture, and then stir flour in 1/4c at a time until sticky batter forms. Spoon burger-sized rounds of batter onto baking sheet about 3/4" in thickness.
Vegan Pancakes (they're pretty good actually):
1 1/4c flour 2 tbsp sugar 2tsp baking powder 1/2 tsp salt 1 1/4c water 1tbsp oil
Vegan Cinnamon Syrup:
1/2c sugar 1/2c brown sugar 2 Tbsp flour 1/2 tsp cinnamon 1tsp vanilla 1c water
There's also these awesome stuffed manicotti noodles that I make.
I mix cream cheese, sour cream, mozzarella cheese, an egg, spinach, and sauteed onion and garlic together and then stuff it into the manicotti noodles and then drench it in a tomato basil sauce and put it in the oven at 350F for like 30 minutes. It's so fucking good.
Sometimes I make Jalepeno poppers, I make pizza with fresh pineapple and black olives a lot with the bread recipe mentioned earlier. That's pretty good imo but I like pineapple on pizza so 
I make oatmeal with peanut butter, strawberry jelly, cinnamon, and sometimes nuts.
I mash chickpeas and mix it with mayo (vegan), chopped pickles, a quick squirt of mustard, and chopped tomatoes and make a mock tuna sandwich. It doesn't taste like tuna but it tastes like a tuna sandwich 
I bake potatoes and eat it with beans, brown rice, some kind of vegetables, and yeast rolls.
I'm a fan of salads, there's a lot of really good salad dressings out there.
Then of course there's the nice variety of fruits and vegetables by themselves. I love fruit, I could live off of it alone and I'd be happy.
I eat pretty damn good in my opinion. I like to cook a lot though so I think that helps my diet.
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Re: Being a vegetarian. Or vegan. One of those V words (vaginatarian!) [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#23546636 - 08/16/16 11:39 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I noticed you mentioned carbs and the list of things I mentioned in the recipes have quite a bit of carbs. That's mainly because those are the only kind of things I need recipes for. Everything else is pretty fairly simple to make aside from burgers and whatnot. I did eat a shitload of carbs when I first started, but I've developed much better eating habits since then. Pasta and baked goods are just soooo good. but that's a problem I had even as a meat eater. I've been focusing on my sugar intake lately (as I was consuming quite a bit of that as well) and since I've been doing that, I've consequently cut down my carb intake significantly.
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Re: Being a vegetarian. Or vegan. One of those V words (vaginatarian!) [Re: Patlal] 1
#23546640 - 08/16/16 11:40 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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For every chicken you don't eat, I will eat three
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Re: Being a vegetarian. Or vegan. One of those V words (vaginatarian!) [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#23546641 - 08/16/16 11:41 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I like being strong and have muscle and it's hard to get enough protein to be strong if you're a vegetarian. I guess if you just supplement a shitload of whey but come on that's gay. Whey gay.
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Re: Being a vegetarian. Or vegan. One of those V words (vaginatarian!) [Re: morrowasted]
#23546650 - 08/16/16 11:43 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lol
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Re: Being a vegetarian. Or vegan. One of those V words (vaginatarian!) [Re: morrowasted]
#23546652 - 08/16/16 11:44 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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A question for the vegetarians and here come the flamers. Didn't see that coming.
Rule 4 should really just be taken out of the pub.
I'm off of this thread
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Re: Being a vegetarian. Or vegan. One of those V words (vaginatarian!) [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#23546738 - 08/16/16 12:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Kush_Zombie said:
Black Bean Burgers:
15oz black beans 1/3c onion 1 Tbsp minced garlic 3 baby carrots grated (optional) 1/4v minced bell pepper (optional) 1 Tbsp arrowroot powder (or an egg, or cornstarch) 1 Tbsp warm water 1tsp chili powder 1tsp ground cumin 1/4 tsp salt 1/4 tsp pepper 2 slices whole wheat bread torn to crumbs 3/4c flour or as needed
Mash beans - add onion, garlic, carrots, & bell peper. Mix Arrowroot powder (or egg) & water together and then add to bean mixture. Mix chili powder, cumin, salt, & black peper together in a small bowl and add to bean mixture. Mix bread crumbs into bean mixture, and then stir flour in 1/4c at a time until sticky batter forms. Spoon burger-sized rounds of batter onto baking sheet about 3/4" in thickness.
I'm definitely making that
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Re: Being a vegetarian. Or vegan. One of those V words (vaginatarian!) [Re: morrowasted]
#23546777 - 08/16/16 12:42 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Patlal said: I'm definitely making that
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morrowasted said: I like being strong and have muscle and it's hard to get enough protein to be strong if you're a vegetarian. I guess if you just supplement a shitload of whey but come on that's gay. Whey gay.
Someone please get me some protein before I die of a protein deficiency..
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Re: Being a vegetarian. Or vegan. One of those V words (vaginatarian!) [Re: morrowasted]
#23546796 - 08/16/16 12:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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For someone who constantly crossposts bullshit from Reddit, I'd think you would have Googled or subscribed to a subreddit about fitness where someone has inevitably shared a link full of info about the various effective alternative protein sources other than stuff like red meat, plus those sources don't have nearly the cholesterol and other associated bad things.
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Re: Being a vegetarian. Or vegan. One of those V words (vaginatarian!) [Re: idiotek]
#23546819 - 08/16/16 12:55 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Im not a vegetarian or vegan, but coiincidentally I have bencooking vegan the last few weeks. Lots of lightly fried rice and peas, maybe with herbs. I eat really strict though.
I was watching vegan gains and he says 'positive nitrogen balance' is more important then total protein to gain mass.
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Re: Being a vegetarian. Or vegan. One of those V words (vaginatarian!) [Re: specialpeopleclub]
#23546845 - 08/16/16 01:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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The protein myths really make me 
There's a guy named Tim 'Livewire' Shieff who does parkour that's vegan and he's a complete badass.
There's an interview with him where he talks about how everyone's always talking to him about how he needs to make sure he eats plenty of protein. He said he doesn't take any supplements or anything, he just likes to eat a lot of fruits and vegetables. Said he guesses that he's dying from lack of protein
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Re: Being a vegetarian. Or vegan. One of those V words (vaginatarian!) [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#23546994 - 08/16/16 02:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Kush_Zombie said:
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Patlal said: I'm definitely making that
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morrowasted said: I like being strong and have muscle and it's hard to get enough protein to be strong if you're a vegetarian. I guess if you just supplement a shitload of whey but come on that's gay. Whey gay.
Someone please get me some protein before I die of a protein deficiency..

See you're skinny as shit. I'm not into that
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Re: Being a vegetarian. Or vegan. One of those V words (vaginatarian!) [Re: morrowasted]
#23546999 - 08/16/16 02:03 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I was skinny when I ate meat? That's just my body type. I didn't realize anyone had asked you what you were into
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Re: Being a vegetarian. Or vegan. One of those V words (vaginatarian!) [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#23547025 - 08/16/16 02:16 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I meant for myself. Not into being that way for myself. I like having bulk muscle. But I guess you're right yeah of people who eat meat are skinny as fuck. It is hard to argue against the fact that being a vegetarian makes it harder to naturally bulk up though
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Re: Being a vegetarian. Or vegan. One of those V words (vaginatarian!) [Re: morrowasted]
#23547031 - 08/16/16 02:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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So what about the guy in the video?
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Re: Being a vegetarian. Or vegan. One of those V words (vaginatarian!) [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#23547039 - 08/16/16 02:22 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Kush_Zombie said: So what about the guy in the video?
i would say how the fuck can your muscles get bigger without protein
it goes against everything I understand about nutrition
some people are genetically highly efficient at converting small amounts of macronutrients into large amounts of whatever. for example some people's bodies are extremely efficient at converting fats and carbs into fat, some peoples' bodies are extremely efficient at converting protein into muscle. some peoples' bodies are extremely inefficient at converting fats and carbs into fat and they get a shitload of immediate energy in the form of a glucose spike when they eat. some peoples' bodies are extremely inefficient at converting proteins into muscle and they have to work out a shitton and eat a fuckload of protein just to gain a little bit of muscle.
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Re: Being a vegetarian. Or vegan. One of those V words (vaginatarian!) [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#23547043 - 08/16/16 02:23 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Also, I know plenty of meat eaters that are into building "bulk" muscle and they use supplements, whey, and all that bs. But I guess since they're not vegetarian or vegan then that argument is invalid for me
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Re: Being a vegetarian. Or vegan. One of those V words (vaginatarian!) [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#23547052 - 08/16/16 02:26 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Kush_Zombie said: Also, I know plenty of meat eaters that are into building "bulk" muscle and they use supplements, whey, and all that bs. But I guess since they're not vegetarian or vegan then that argument is invalid for me 
what argument?
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