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paracelsusgold

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older serious mushroom grower wants to get back into it and looking for other serious growers
#23546141 - 08/16/16 07:09 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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i just discovered this great site and i am a 70 yr man living in sw georgia with my wife and 6 dogs and 3 cats and we own an 8 plus acre place outside of camilla georgia and also a 32 acre place in nw arkansas 10 miles north of natural dam. i want to get back into growing mushrooms again after having done it fulltime for years in upstate ny at facilities that i built in the late 70s and early 80s. i was doing research there on cultivation techniques and was getting this research published in certain scholarly mushroom publications. i still have alot of my lab stuff after all these years amazingly. i was good friends with steve peele of the fmrc in pensacola for 30 years and he is retired now. he taught me alot, by mail in those days. i am interested in trying to perhaps grow the gymnopilus spectabilus if possible and trying to secure some good amanita muscarias also. i would like to meet some other serious growers for communications.
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36fuckin5
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Re: older serious mushroom grower wants to get back into it and looking for other serious growers [Re: paracelsusgold]
#23546622 - 08/16/16 11:30 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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This whole site is full of the people you want. Just ask whatever questions you have.
Also, erase all that personal info. We don't need it and it's a liability to you.
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Re: older serious mushroom grower wants to get back into it and looking for other serious growers [Re: 36fuckin5]
#23547935 - 08/16/16 07:22 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's not a liability. per se, for gyms and muscaria. I'm curious how you'd approach cultivating gymnopilus spectabilus. Would you try to inoculate logs or create an appropriate woodchip bag? What are you thinking of doing?
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36fuckin5
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Re: older serious mushroom grower wants to get back into it and looking for other serious growers [Re: Psychedelic Pupil]
#23548552 - 08/16/16 11:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Personal info anywhere on the internet is a liability. Especially when it's linked to a website dedicated to manufacturing schedule I substances.
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Re: older serious mushroom grower wants to get back into it and looking for other serious growers [Re: 36fuckin5]
#23549275 - 08/17/16 08:27 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well he used serious twice in the title so this must be a serious thread
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paracelsusgold

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Re: older serious mushroom grower wants to get back into it and looking for other serious growers [Re: Psychedelic Pupil]
#23558738 - 08/19/16 11:26 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Psychedelic Pupil said: It's not a liability. per se, for gyms and muscaria. I'm curious how you'd approach cultivating gymnopilus spectabilus. Would you try to inoculate logs or create an appropriate woodchip bag? What are you thinking of doing?
dear pupil the first problem would be securing a print. i think the name has been changed also for this mushroom. asante told me that. i would not use logs either but a homemade wood substrate. also how about amanitas? have you ever had them? the muscaria? my mentor steve peele could grow them.
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paracelsusgold

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Re: older serious mushroom grower wants to get back into it and looking for other serious growers [Re: drake89]
#23558744 - 08/19/16 11:28 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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hello
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paracelsusgold

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Re: older serious mushroom grower wants to get back into it and looking for other serious growers [Re: 36fuckin5]
#23558752 - 08/19/16 11:32 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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36fuckin5 said: This whole site is full of the people you want. Just ask whatever questions you have.
Also, erase all that personal info. We don't need it and it's a liability to you.
dear 36 how are you? thank you for the info.
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Re: older serious mushroom grower wants to get back into it and looking for other serious growers [Re: paracelsusgold]
#23558775 - 08/19/16 11:42 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'd be interested to see what substrate you'd use. I can't help with the prints for gyms right now. I have found them in the past but none this year so far.
As for Amanitas, no, I've never had them but I did just find and dry some. I've been thinking of trying a small quantity. They smell delicious when dried! I didn't think to take any prints of them but they are popping right now so I could get some prints for you if you'd like them.
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paracelsusgold

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Re: older serious mushroom grower wants to get back into it and looking for other serious growers [Re: Psychedelic Pupil]
#23558825 - 08/20/16 12:03 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Psychedelic Pupil said: I'd be interested to see what substrate you'd use. I can't help with the prints for gyms right now. I have found them in the past but none this year so far.
As for Amanitas, no, I've never had them but I did just find and dry some. I've been thinking of trying a small quantity. They smell delicious when dried! I didn't think to take any prints of them but they are popping right now so I could get some prints for you if you'd like them.

pupil thank you but that is not necessary. i am only interested in eating them and it is too difficult to try to grow them because of the mycorrihizal relationship they have with other roots. i would like to grow the gyms though.
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paracelsusgold

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Re: older serious mushroom grower wants to get back into it and looking for other serious growers [Re: paracelsusgold]
#23558829 - 08/20/16 12:05 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Psychedelic Pupil said: I'd be interested to see what substrate you'd use. I can't help with the prints for gyms right now. I have found them in the past but none this year so far.
As for Amanitas, no, I've never had them but I did just find and dry some. I've been thinking of trying a small quantity. They smell delicious when dried! I didn't think to take any prints of them but they are popping right now so I could get some prints for you if you'd like them.

pupil thank you but that is not necessary. i am only interested in eating them and it is too difficult to try to grow them because of the mycorrihizal relationship they have with other roots. i would like to grow the gyms though. 
are those gyms in the photo?
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#23559874 - 08/20/16 12:42 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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paracelsusgold

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Re: older serious mushroom grower wants to get back into it and looking for other serious growers [Re: stevo]
#23560327 - 08/20/16 03:56 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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stevo said: I am still waiting for my gymnopilus logs/stumps to fruit. It has been a hot year. I think that shuts them down. It is an october thing here in maryland I think. I rarely find any gymnopilus species unless the temps have dropped down to 70s/50s high/low and really serious ass downpour of rain, not just a As for the muscaria, they are very common and widespread and probably fruit within a mile from your house every year in the same spot. Their season tends to be very short though. My best advice to find them is do not look very hard for them in the woods, unless you know for sure they are fruiting, and just want to enjoy the experience of being in the woods. You will wear yourself out and get nailed with chiggers. The best way, imo, is to find a rural backroad somewhere that goes through a pine dominated forest and there are pine trees on both sides and just cruise down it with a bike or driving really slow keeping your eye out for huge red mushrooms that stand out like a sore thumb.
If you could elaborate on the cultivation of A muscaria it would be interesting. I have never tried them. I've always weenied out about consuming them. They do not have very good reviews on their effects. They are toxic mushrooms that just so happen to produce some sort of inebriation in addition to your puking session.
I would however get a kick out of decorating my house with them 
Beautiful organisms


Feel free to post your finds on the mushroom hunting forum especially if you plan to consume. There are some convincing deadly lookalikes for this species.
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stevo said: I am still waiting for my gymnopilus logs/stumps to fruit. It has been a hot year. I think that shuts them down. It is an october thing here in maryland I think. I rarely find any gymnopilus species unless the temps have dropped down to 70s/50s high/low and really serious ass downpour of rain, not just a sprinkle.
As for the muscaria, they are very common and widespread and probably fruit within a mile from your house every year in the same spot. Their season tends to be very short though. My best advice to find them is do not look very hard for them in the woods, unless you know for sure they are fruiting, and just want to enjoy the experience of being in the woods. You will wear yourself out and get nailed with chiggers. The best way, imo, is to find a rural backroad somewhere that goes through a pine dominated forest and there are pine trees on both sides and just cruise down it with a bike or driving really slow keeping your eye out for huge red mushrooms that stand out like a sore thumb.
If you could elaborate on the cultivation of A muscaria it would be interesting. I have never tried them. I've always weenied out about consuming them. They do not have very good reviews on their effects. They are toxic mushrooms that just so happen to produce some sort of inebriation in addition to your puking session.
I would however get a kick out of decorating my house with them 
Beautiful organisms


Feel free to post your finds on the mushroom hunting forum especially if you plan to consume. There are some convincing deadly lookalikes for this species.
dear stevo good to meet you. i used to find alot of amanitas at my friends place in upstate new york many years ago in his pine woods after it rained. they are very good. but you do not want to eat them fresh. you must dry them for the necessary chemical reaction to occur. if you eat them fresh you can get sick and also run the risk of being misdiagnosed at the hospital and treated wrongly which one does not want. this mushroom has been the subject of the most sholarly research in ethnobotany by gordon wasson. and others as well. the amount you take is relevant also. they will do all kinds of interesting things to you. i believe you can purchase them online legally. stay in touch.
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Re: older serious mushroom grower wants to get back into it and looking for other serious growers [Re: paracelsusgold]
#23602655 - 09/01/16 08:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Gymnopilus spectablis is widespread and common, on the acreage you've mentioned if wooded, I'd expect to see it or another active Gym, Gymnopilus luteofolius and G. Luteus for example, in at least 5 places. They'll fruit all summer, but mostly in late summer and fall is when there's a lot of them about, when the nighttime temps drop into the 50s is the best time to look IMO. If you can find it, cloning it is an easy way to get a culture going, rather than starting from spores which not only takes longer, generally has more contaminates in the beginning than the clone of a young mushroom.
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Re: older serious mushroom grower wants to get back into it and looking for other serious growers [Re: paracelsusgold]
#23605508 - 09/02/16 05:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Psychedelic Pupil said: I'd be interested to see what substrate you'd use. I can't help with the prints for gyms right now. I have found them in the past but none this year so far.
As for Amanitas, no, I've never had them but I did just find and dry some. I've been thinking of trying a small quantity. They smell delicious when dried! I didn't think to take any prints of them but they are popping right now so I could get some prints for you if you'd like them.

pupil thank you but that is not necessary. i am only interested in eating them and it is too difficult to try to grow them because of the mycorrihizal relationship they have with other roots. i would like to grow the gyms though. 
are those gyms in the photo?
Amanitas
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Re: older serious mushroom grower wants to get back into it and looking for other serious growers [Re: MrBMF]
#23610720 - 09/04/16 09:32 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Im curious about these facilities you built in upstate NY. I frequent the area. Where are they and what are they?
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Re: older serious mushroom grower wants to get back into it and looking for other serious growers [Re: SpinScratch]
#23611841 - 09/04/16 04:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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SpinScratch said: Im curious about these facilities you built in upstate NY. I frequent the area. Where are they and what are they?
I'm pretty sure he ain't gonna say where
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Re: older serious mushroom grower wants to get back into it and looking for other serious growers [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23612236 - 09/04/16 06:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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i didnt think it was THOSE type of facilities
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